Need new router, suggestions? Have static IP and I have server running multiple VMs

dalearyous

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right now i am using some free POS netgear router. i would like to replace it since i am getting a static IP and temporarily moving a server with multiple VMs to my house. (do not worry its for personal use).

can anyone suggest a great router with gigabit switch that is extremely friendly to server related apps and processes?
 

dalearyous

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the word also should clue you in i want both.

i am currently looking at the WNDR3700 along with the modem as long as DOCSIS 3.0 is available in my area (which seems like it is). wonder if its worth the $80. confirming on dslreports.com now
 

imagoon

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the word also should clue you in i want both.

i am currently looking at the WNDR3700 along with the modem as long as DOCSIS 3.0 is available in my area (which seems like it is). wonder if its worth the $80. confirming on dslreports.com now

The word "router" in a home environment infers the WNDR3700. When you list a cable modem, you are going to confuse people as some of those will have a router built in but others won't.

For the cable modem "static IP" isn't advanced at all. The cable co, assuming they support the modem will just plug a DHCP reservation in so your modem will always be assigned the same IP address. If you are getting multiple IPs (ie static NATs), I am pretty confident the WNDR3700 will not do that without one of the hacked firmwares.
 

dalearyous

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ah i c how people could have gotten confused.

no, i just need a standard, out facing, static IP. yeah comcast is willing to add it on for $10 more a month. i was just about to buy that router when i saw the new modems and figured it couldn't hurt. plus it saves me the $x a month i pay to rent the modem (maybe $5, which looking back on is a total rip off).

but the WNDR3700 seems like a great router with enough QoS, port forwarding, and gigabit connections for me.
 

imagoon

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ah i c how people could have gotten confused.

no, i just need a standard, out facing, static IP. yeah comcast is willing to add it on for $10 more a month. i was just about to buy that router when i saw the new modems and figured it couldn't hurt. plus it saves me the $x a month i pay to rent the modem (maybe $5, which looking back on is a total rip off).

but the WNDR3700 seems like a great router with enough QoS, port forwarding, and gigabit connections for me.

I am pretty sure that once you get a static IP at comcast, they will make you a "business account" and send you the business class router. I also never paid a rental fee on the business class router.
 

dalearyous

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do i have to use this business class router? and is it any good?

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ok so they do make you use their 4 port gateway ("business class router") and if you sign up for premium speeds or higher they will give you a DOCSIS 3.0 modem (most likely motorola).

however, the guy on the phone assured me you could put it into bridge mode and have your own router handle all the traffic.
 
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imagoon

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do i have to use this business class router? and is it any good?

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ok so they do make you use their 4 port gateway ("business class router") and if you sign up for premium speeds or higher they will give you a DOCSIS 3.0 modem (most likely motorola).

however, the guy on the phone assured me you could put it into bridge mode and have your own router handle all the traffic.

Yes. Actually it runs in a hybrid "bridge / router" mode. If you get a DHCP address from the unit it will be in "192.168.1.x" (as i recall) and the first static will be used for that. You can set devices to the external IP's and plug them in and it will route. I believe you have to call them to put it in to 'full bridge' mode. They don't let you access jack on the thing other than basics like "ip" "dhcp" and "port forwarding." The Moto unit may be different. I had mine replaced 3-4 times but I seriously don't think that it was the modem's fault the service sucked.
 

chuck2002

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This exact issue came up for a buddy of mine last week.
You can deny accepting Comcast's router/modem device and instead use your own.
If you don't want to pay for a docsis 3.0 modem, you can get a docsis 2.0 modem instead.
The max speed of docsis 2.0 is 35 megabits. If your data speed agreement with comcast is for something lower than 35 megabit, going with docsis 3.0 isn't going to get you anything.

Also, if you are looking for a nice router, you could go with a hackable Asus brand router and then put tomato or some other firmware on there to give you a bunch of features that you might want to allow access to your virtual servers.
You could also re-purpose some old computer hardware and run a real router/firewall such as pfsense or ipcop, which are both free.
 

chuck2002

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Also, as long as it is a docsis modem, comcast will work with it. You will just need to call them with the numbers off of the back for them to authenticate it on their network.

Bridge mode on one of their comcast modem/router devices is going to suck. I recommend avoiding that.
 

dalearyous

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for business class internet, and static ip, there is no other way ... you HAVE to use their gateway they give you. and if you get premium package (which i did) they automatically set you up with docsis 3.0 modem.

so i ordered the WNDR3700 yesterday, came today, and its really awesome router.