Need new card, recommend a particular model of 1070/1080.

nurturedhate

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Need to replace a 780ti. Feel like a 1070 or 1080 is the answer. Recommend a particular model and why. Thanks!
 
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Unfortunately there is no good options. Since AMD doesn't have high end yet and the earliest now seems paper launch in late 2016 and availability in Q1 2017 you are out of luck, unless you want to wait 6 months.

Personally if I was you I'd wait, Nvidia might release the 1080TI, so essentially a little weaker Titan X, but at much lower costs, that would mean the 1080 drops from $700(cheapest price I can find) to something like $550.
 
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Time to replace the 780ti. She's been slowly dying for a little while and needs an RMA. I'm rather impatient and the replacement RMA will be handed down to my son so ordering a new card before RMAing it is. A 480 or 1060 really aren't much of upgrades outside of niche cases. A 1080 seems completely overpriced at $650, would seem better at less than $550. So it looks like a 1070 it is. Not exactly thrilled. Any suggestions on which one since it seems like there really isn't an alternative....

GTX 1070 is the best option available today.
 

Alqoxzt

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Which resolution do you play at? If 1080p then you can go for rx480 or 1060 as these are somewhat of an upgrade in new games and wait for volta to drop next year. Its salvaged 104 chip will be on par with TX Pascal. I am also confused between rx 480 and 1060 for myself but I want to keep my new card for at least 3 years or more.

Anyway custom card is 75 % faster than your card
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Unfortunately there is no good options. Since AMD doesn't have high end yet and the earliest now seems paper launch in late 2016 and availability in Q1 2017 you are out of luck, unless you want to wait 6 months.

Personally if I was you I'd wait, Nvidia might release the 1080TI, so essentially a little weaker Titan X, but at much lower costs, that would mean the 1080 drops from $700(cheapest price I can find) to something like $550.

They pushed it to H1 so probably Q2 for the high end stuff for vega 11 and while vega 10 may be out late this year at best but again it would probably be in the 1070ish range and maybe close to the 1080.

I don't see any reason why nvidia would release the 1080 ti if at all until amd gets around to making some competition and sure the 1080 will drop a bit but you can find it in the low $600's easy right now and expect the ti if they do release one to be around 900ish.

What kind of resolution do you run OP as if it's the normal 1080p a 1070 will be more then enough right now and you can pick them up for $390's right now easily or a bit more for some beefier ones.
 

nurturedhate

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1080p 144hz. It just feels that every single card available sits in no mans land right now when it comes to pricing. 480/1060 are side grades for a 1200mhz 780ti. 1070 feels like it should be at $350 and 1080 at $500. I know I'm just ranting and complaining about a purchase that is more than likely going to get made. I've just ended up with somewhat decent deals on top of the stack cards for a while now. Paid a little over $400 for my 580. Paid a little over $500 for the 780ti. Great deal on a pair of 4870s before that. All within a a couple months of release. To be looking at a cut down GP102 in the Titan XP at $1200 seems absurd, same with the 1080 at $650.

I know the 1070 is fine for 1080p 144hz right now but like everything else it all get pushed down the line until it is out of service. The wife will need a new monitor eventually, her monitor would go to our son and so on. This 4670k will most likely be replaced sometime around SKL HEDT or CNL and either move to the wife or son (with the wife getting a new system as well in that case) and so goes the rest of the parts.

I just feel stuck and really not liking the options. A 980ti at $360 seems meh when a 1070 can be had for sub $400 now. The fury isn't a terrible option, would be far more tempting if it was fury x. Looks like I can get a 1080 down to $600 but that still seems meh.
 

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In your shoes I would buy a 1070 or 1080. Well in fact Ive been in your shoes and I upgraded from a 780 to 980 then to a 1080. The 1080 might be expensive but it is worth it.
 

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If you are dead set on not getting a 1070 and need something now, then the current ~$300 for the Fury Nitro going on is the best option. ..but for how long you have held onto that 780ti, you may not be happy holding onto last gen like the Fury for another 3+ years. It's a very well-aging card, though, and will still be a great performer. Pascal *probably* isn't going to age as poorly as Maxwell and other nVid generations, though, if that is your concern.
 
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There is really nothing wrong going from a 780Ti to a 1070, you get more than double the framebuffer, an overall 70+% performance increase accros the board, clear DX12/Vulkan performance advantage (Kepler is dead), if you can find a good deal on a quality AIB card the 1070 is the clear cut choice at the moment. As you said, the 1080 is overpriced and the 1070 while not overly impressive on paper will be a great performer for the forseable future in 1080/1440p.
 

96Firebird

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I'm not sure if we can handle another self-loathing 1070 owner here. I would wait if I were you.
 

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Next best card after 1070 is the 980TI. Now that used ones are dropping closer to the $300 mark, I'm debating picking up another since I am about to go 4K, should get enough out of them until Nvidia launches a sub $1000 4K card.
 

Head1985

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Only options are 980TI or 1070.980TI is faster under dx11(aftermarket).1070 have 2 GB more Vram and maybe it will be faster under dx12.Your call.

Or buy rx480 and wait for vega then sell rx480 and buy vega.
 

railven

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I'm not sure if we can handle another self-loathing 1070 owner here. I would wait if I were you.

I'd sort of side with this post. It's one thing to buy an upgrade out of necessity, but you openly said you don't want a GTX 1070. I'd pick up the cheapest option you can and just let it ride until something you actually wants is in the market.

Nothing sucks more than buying something regrettably because you'll most likely never enjoy it.
 

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1070 is the way to go. No regrets here. Worth it right now for the performance you get. Money is just money.

It is true that the 1070 stands alone. And it's where there's a big leap from the mid range to the 1070.
 

nurturedhate

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I'd sort of side with this post. It's one thing to buy an upgrade out of necessity, but you openly said you don't want a GTX 1070. I'd pick up the cheapest option you can and just let it ride until something you actually wants is in the market.

Nothing sucks more than buying something regrettably because you'll most likely never enjoy it.

A little clarification. I have nothing against the 1070. The 1070 is a fine product in a vacuum. I'll most likely be getting a 1070 and will enjoy it. I'm just not happy with the overall pricing of literally everything on the market at the moment and I highly doubt that will change, ever. So it is what it is.

Though this is starting to creep into consideration: https://jet.com/product/EVGA-08G-P4...Gaming-ACX-3/0082a202ad2f41d5b66d5fcbd487c015

Thoughts? A 1080? Which 1070?
 

Alqoxzt

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1080p 144hz. It just feels that every single card available sits in no mans land right now when it comes to pricing. 480/1060 are side grades for a 1200mhz 780ti. 1070 feels like it should be at $350 and 1080 at $500. I know I'm just ranting and complaining about a purchase that is more than likely going to get made. I've just ended up with somewhat decent deals on top of the stack cards for a while now. Paid a little over $400 for my 580. Paid a little over $500 for the 780ti. Great deal on a pair of 4870s before that. All within a a couple months of release. To be looking at a cut down GP102 in the Titan XP at $1200 seems absurd, same with the 1080 at $650.

I know the 1070 is fine for 1080p 144hz right now but like everything else it all get pushed down the line until it is out of service. The wife will need a new monitor eventually, her monitor would go to our son and so on. This 4670k will most likely be replaced sometime around SKL HEDT or CNL and either move to the wife or son (with the wife getting a new system as well in that case) and so goes the rest of the parts.

I just feel stuck and really not liking the options. A 980ti at $360 seems meh when a 1070 can be had for sub $400 now. The fury isn't a terrible option, would be far more tempting if it was fury x. Looks like I can get a 1080 down to $600 but that still seems meh.
You can find an aftermarket ti
 

zinfamous

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Only options are 980TI or 1070.980TI is faster under dx11(aftermarket).1070 have 2 GB more Vram and maybe it will be faster under dx12.Your call.

Or buy rx480 and wait for vega then sell rx480 and buy vega.

what about 480, mine etherium to pay for the card for another 6 months until the next tier of Pascal/Vega cards arrive and actually upgrade then?
 

zinfamous

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NVIDIA GPUs can't mine Etherium?

sure they can, but not quite as efficiently, especially when you consider the difference in entry cost. 1060 has better power draw, so maybe that compensates for the lack in compute? I dunno.

Do AMD cards sell better in 2ndary market, for this purpose? If OP hates the idea of the 1070 because of price (though it seems he is going to get one anyway), then way not grab an 480 8gb for $240, mine etherium in spare time to pay it off, then resell for ~$150 6-7 months from now when there are more options?

Or do it with a 1060 6gb. Whichever gets you a free card for this holdover period and gets a decent resell for the real upgrade (so a nice discount going in)