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[AStar617]

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: phisrow
Of isn't an independent word. You indicate it by changing the case of the appropriate word to genitive.
eg. "Voice of the people" = Vox Populi

That wouldn't really work with Novus Vir, since Vir Novi would come out to something like "man of the new(man)".

The closest you could reasonably get might be Vir Novorum "Man of New Things" or "Man of New Men".

wow that doesnt sound bad. vir novorum. what about the previous comment though? that it should be Novvs Vir?

Only if you're feeling particularly masochistic and don't want any layman to easily transliterate your screenname. Same thing with W and J, they technically didn't exist in classic Latin.

are you talking about novorum vir or novvs vir?

Any confusing non-consonental usage of "v" (i.e. as a vowel), particularly when immediately followed/preceded by a consonental "v". "vir novvs" is downright painful to read in English.

fyi, "vir novorum" is a bit more natural than "novorum vir", even though word order is largely unimportant in Latin due to declension of nouns/adjectives and conjugation of verbs.

 

[Nerva]

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: phisrow
Of isn't an independent word. You indicate it by changing the case of the appropriate word to genitive.
eg. "Voice of the people" = Vox Populi

That wouldn't really work with Novus Vir, since Vir Novi would come out to something like "man of the new(man)".

The closest you could reasonably get might be Vir Novorum "Man of New Things" or "Man of New Men".

wow that doesnt sound bad. vir novorum. what about the previous comment though? that it should be Novvs Vir?

Only if you're feeling particularly masochistic and don't want any layman to easily transliterate your screenname. Same thing with W and J, they technically didn't exist in classic Latin.

are you talking about novorum vir or novvs vir?

Any confusing non-consonental usage of "v" (i.e. as a vowel), particularly when immediately followed/preceded by a consonental "v".

fyi, "vir novorum" is a bit more natural than "novorum vir", even though word order is largely unimportant in Latin due to declension of nouns/adjectives and conjugation of verbs.

hmmm, kind of confusing. but i guess i will stick with Novvs Vir

 

[phisrow]

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: phisrow
Of isn't an independent word. You indicate it by changing the case of the appropriate word to genitive.
eg. "Voice of the people" = Vox Populi

That wouldn't really work with Novus Vir, since Vir Novi would come out to something like "man of the new(man)".

The closest you could reasonably get might be Vir Novorum "Man of New Things" or "Man of New Men".

wow that doesnt sound bad. vir novorum. what about the previous comment though? that it should be Novvs Vir?

Only if you're feeling particularly masochistic and don't want any layman to easily transliterate your screenname. Same thing with W and J, they technically didn't exist in classic Latin.

are you talking about novorum vir or novvs vir?

The use of "u" instead of "v", while not technically historically accurate(if you look at actual classical roman engravings, you'll see "v"s not "u"s), is well accepted in modern editions of Latin texts. I don't have a comprehensive collection by any means; but 3 dictionaries, the Loeb classical library, and a few assorted excerpt collections all use "u" where appropriate.

"J" is rather less common. Everybody will know who you mean if you mention Julius Caesar; but you are quite likely to see Iulius in texts.

It doesn't really matter all that much. If I were designing a plaque or something, I'd probably stick with "v" for that classical feel; but for text, "u" makes things clearer.

 

[phisrow]

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: phisrow
Of isn't an independent word. You indicate it by changing the case of the appropriate word to genitive.
eg. "Voice of the people" = Vox Populi

That wouldn't really work with Novus Vir, since Vir Novi would come out to something like "man of the new(man)".

The closest you could reasonably get might be Vir Novorum "Man of New Things" or "Man of New Men".

wow that doesnt sound bad. vir novorum. what about the previous comment though? that it should be Novvs Vir?

Only if you're feeling particularly masochistic and don't want any layman to easily transliterate your screenname. Same thing with W and J, they technically didn't exist in classic Latin.

are you talking about novorum vir or novvs vir?

The use of "u" instead of "v", while not technically historically accurate(if you look at actual classical roman engravings, you'll see "v"s not "u"s), is well accepted in modern editions of Latin texts. I don't have a comprehensive collection by any means; but 3 dictionaries, the Loeb classical library, and a few assorted excerpt collections all use "u" where appropriate.

"J" is rather less common. Everybody will know who you mean if you mention Julius Caesar; but you are quite likely to see Iulius in texts.

It doesn't really matter all that much. If I were designing a plaque or something, I'd probably stick with "v" for that classical feel; but for text, "u" makes things clearer.

 

[AStar617]

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: phisrow
Of isn't an independent word. You indicate it by changing the case of the appropriate word to genitive.
eg. "Voice of the people" = Vox Populi

That wouldn't really work with Novus Vir, since Vir Novi would come out to something like "man of the new(man)".

The closest you could reasonably get might be Vir Novorum "Man of New Things" or "Man of New Men".

wow that doesnt sound bad. vir novorum. what about the previous comment though? that it should be Novvs Vir?

Only if you're feeling particularly masochistic and don't want any layman to easily transliterate your screenname. Same thing with W and J, they technically didn't exist in classic Latin.

are you talking about novorum vir or novvs vir?

Any confusing non-consonental usage of "v" (i.e. as a vowel), particularly when immediately followed/preceded by a consonental "v".

fyi, "vir novorum" is a bit more natural than "novorum vir", even though word order is largely unimportant in Latin due to declension of nouns/adjectives and conjugation of verbs.

hmmm, kind of confusing. but i guess i will stick with Novvs Vir

Just be prepared when your friends ask you "...what the hell is novs?" (pronoucing a single vee sound as "NOVS", not the separate w-u sounds as "KNOW-US") Whatever floats your boat.

 

[Nerva]

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: AStar617

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: phisrow
Of isn't an independent word. You indicate it by changing the case of the appropriate word to genitive.
eg. "Voice of the people" = Vox Populi

That wouldn't really work with Novus Vir, since Vir Novi would come out to something like "man of the new(man)".

The closest you could reasonably get might be Vir Novorum "Man of New Things" or "Man of New Men".

wow that doesnt sound bad. vir novorum. what about the previous comment though? that it should be Novvs Vir?

Only if you're feeling particularly masochistic and don't want any layman to easily transliterate your screenname. Same thing with W and J, they technically didn't exist in classic Latin.

are you talking about novorum vir or novvs vir?

Any confusing non-consonental usage of "v" (i.e. as a vowel), particularly when immediately followed/preceded by a consonental "v".

fyi, "vir novorum" is a bit more natural than "novorum vir", even though word order is largely unimportant in Latin due to declension of nouns/adjectives and conjugation of verbs.

hmmm, kind of confusing. but i guess i will stick with Novvs Vir

Just be prepared when your friends ask you "...what the hell is novs?" (pronoucing a single vee sound as "NOVS", not the separate w-u sounds as "KNOW-US") Whatever floats your boat.

thanks for your help.

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: 3cho

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Latin doesn't have "of" in it. It is weird, I was looking for this same thing today. I took Latin in HS. Try rewording what you're saying, like, instead of saying, "Voice of truth" say "Truthful voice"

i am trying to change my aim screen name, i was thinking Novus Vir, but its taken, so i was thinking about using Vir OF Novus, not sure how i can rephrase it though. that's why i am looking for the OF equivalent

i had latin, long ago. but "vir of novus" almost certainly sounds off.
"Man of New" ? Why not "vir novus" ?

The closest thing to "of" still "a, ab" or maybe also "de"

 

[AStar617]

hehe we tackled this last nite, read above The translation "of" is an English approximation for "a/ab" and "de" when used similar to "from", not in a possessive sense. The latter is covered by the genetive case of the noun (i.e., by changing the word ending) and without a separate word.

OP could use Vir Novus instead of Novus Vir and he should be fine.

 

[imported_griffis]

Really nooone "speaks" latin

 

[Vegitto]

Latin is a dead language, no-one speaks it . Or was 'an', wasn't it?

 

[pontifex]

i was trying to find soem car audio speakers made in mexico but the work finding one wasn't worth the time for the joke.

 

[CaptnKirk]

In Spanish - which is a language derived from Latin, it's ' de ' or ' del ' as in ' de la noche ' - "of the night"
or ' del rio ' - "of the river"

Italian uses ' di ' as "of" or "from" as well.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
Considering they didn't use U's why not go with Novvs Vir

They also had a single case and no spaces, so make that NOVVSVIR.

 

[Nerva]

Originally posted by: AStar617
hehe we tackled this last nite, read above The translation "of" is an English approximation for "a/ab" and "de" when used similar to "from", not in a possessive sense. The latter is covered by the genetive case of the noun (i.e., by changing the word ending) and without a separate word.

OP could use Vir Novus instead of Novus Vir and he should be fine.

hehe Vir Novus is taken as well.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I believe since it starts with a vowel, you don't have a beginning consenant to drop. This is one of the more confusing rules of latin. Therefore, the correct pronunciation would be "O-Ray".

 

[chcarnage]

Vir novus = The new man
Vir novorum = The man of the new ones
Vir novior = The newer man
Vir novissimus = The newest man