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DerwenArtos12

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Yup, thats me.

And out of those three, I'd say the Scythe S-Flex hands down. Thats not one of nexus new fans, there is a much bigger differance than just the color and the yate is a sleeve so it's going to be noisy of laid on it's side.
 

Cookie Monster

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Like the above posters, get rid of the TT fans. They are infact very horrible.

If you want silence Scythe is good, but nexus/noctua fans are even better. The Noctua NF-S12-1200 or the nexus D12SL-12 are a good choice to replace those TT fans with.
 

Jessica69

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Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
Either you are Vapor(which I kinda doubt) or thats almost a copy and paste from his fan review on XS. We should really get someone(aigomorla) to get permission to post his review in a sticky here.

No, I'm not Vapor....but all he did was quantify what manyof us out there already knew from experience.

For example, I've got probably 20-30 120mm fans lying around on my shelves.....and most will probably never be used again, except in an emergency.

My current stack of rejects contains:

7 Yate-Loons of various speeds.....SL, SM, and one SH. 4 were purchased from Jab-Tech, 3 from Petras.....and the Petras fans are noticeably quieter, stronger.....but are still sleeve bearings and end up noisy.

Two Nexus.....nice fans but weak.....air flow is marginal for decent case fans, worthless for radiators.

One Noctua.......weak in open air, but quiet. Worthless when faced with even a wire grill guard. No pressure behind it to overcome any restriction. Tried it on a radiator and it was laughable......and useless.

An older Panaflo....cannot kill it, but not the quietest thing out there.

Maybe 6 CoolerMasters......all kinda quiet, but again sleeve bearings, weakish flow, and end up, again, noisy.....

3 Lian-Li fans (rebadged ADDA)....ball bearings, fair flow, fairly quiet, but prefer my S-Flex fans much more

3 Gigabyte (rebadged Everflow), again, sleeve bearings, not quiet, sloppy sounding, decent flow but not for the noise generated.

3 Zalman F3's.......great flow, but noisy at full speed, need to be reduced to 7V to be tolerable. But, again, sleeve bearings and durability is suspect. That and noise increases when horizontally positioned.

2 Zalman LED fans.....unknown rebadge......not as quiet as the F3's, much more positional dependent.

One Silverstone FN121....decently quiet fan horizontally. Had this one on a rad for a few months and was replaced with an S-Flex, but reluctantly. One of the better sleeve fans I've used for flow vs. noise on a rad in horizontal position.


My current fan selection consists of using 3 S-Flex "F" fans on a Thermochill 120.3 rad. Quiet even at full speed, silent at 7V.

2 S-Flex "E" fans for case fans......running at full speed. Can barely hear them...more air flow noise than anything else.

Have 2 S-Flex "D" fans as backups......currently won't use much of anything else in my computer.


So, while Vapor did quantifying testing, he isn't the first to see these fans or notice their problems.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: Jessica69
the two variants of TT fans tested over at XtremeSystems did, and one was the Silent Wheel.

Was that the round 130mm unit? I have one, and never used it because it peeved me that, after I got it and put it against a 120mm fan, the fan blades themselves are exactly the same as on a 120mm unit. The extra 10mm was from the cage/chassis of the fan being larger, thus it is basically exactly the same as a 120mm fan in performance, just takes up more space around it and can only be mounted on one side.

Originally posted by: Jessica69
So, while Vapor did quantifying testing, he isn't the first to see these fans or notice their problems.

Got a link to his work?
 
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That S-Flex has been recommended enough times so I might just go with 3 of those. They move good air with rather low noise so that looks like it may be a winner. The Yate Loon fans move decent air but seem a lil louder than what I'd want to put in his case. I got a Slip Stream 120 SY1225SL12H that does 88CFM @ 33dBA . I'ma plug it in for my friend and see what he thinks of the 30db range of sound and if it doesn't bother him I may try to find him something with 50 - 60CFM in the 20 - 30dBA range though I'd still like to keep it quiet.

What is the best bearing type for a silent fan anyways ? I never realized the bearing type had such an impact on silent fans. Does anyone know if that magnetic bearing in the Enermax fans is good ?
 

DerwenArtos12

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Originally posted by: Jessica69
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
Either you are Vapor(which I kinda doubt) or thats almost a copy and paste from his fan review on XS. We should really get someone(aigomorla) to get permission to post his review in a sticky here.

No, I'm not Vapor....but all he did was quantify what manyof us out there already knew from experience.

For example, I've got probably 20-30 120mm fans lying around on my shelves.....and most will probably never be used again, except in an emergency.

My current stack of rejects contains:

7 Yate-Loons of various speeds.....SL, SM, and one SH. 4 were purchased from Jab-Tech, 3 from Petras.....and the Petras fans are noticeably quieter, stronger.....but are still sleeve bearings and end up noisy.

Two Nexus.....nice fans but weak.....air flow is marginal for decent case fans, worthless for radiators.

One Noctua.......weak in open air, but quiet. Worthless when faced with even a wire grill guard. No pressure behind it to overcome any restriction. Tried it on a radiator and it was laughable......and useless.

An older Panaflo....cannot kill it, but not the quietest thing out there.

Maybe 6 CoolerMasters......all kinda quiet, but again sleeve bearings, weakish flow, and end up, again, noisy.....

3 Lian-Li fans (rebadged ADDA)....ball bearings, fair flow, fairly quiet, but prefer my S-Flex fans much more

3 Gigabyte (rebadged Everflow), again, sleeve bearings, not quiet, sloppy sounding, decent flow but not for the noise generated.

3 Zalman F3's.......great flow, but noisy at full speed, need to be reduced to 7V to be tolerable. But, again, sleeve bearings and durability is suspect. That and noise increases when horizontally positioned.

2 Zalman LED fans.....unknown rebadge......not as quiet as the F3's, much more positional dependent.

One Silverstone FN121....decently quiet fan horizontally. Had this one on a rad for a few months and was replaced with an S-Flex, but reluctantly. One of the better sleeve fans I've used for flow vs. noise on a rad in horizontal position.


My current fan selection consists of using 3 S-Flex "F" fans on a Thermochill 120.3 rad. Quiet even at full speed, silent at 7V.

2 S-Flex "E" fans for case fans......running at full speed. Can barely hear them...more air flow noise than anything else.

Have 2 S-Flex "D" fans as backups......currently won't use much of anything else in my computer.


So, while Vapor did quantifying testing, he isn't the first to see these fans or notice their problems.

Sounds similar to my collection. I'll have to go through it soon. I have a 8.5x11x15" box FULL of fans that I just don't use along with my regulars box which has
2xCoolerMaster blue LED
2xTT blue LED fans
(those I just have so I can show people how bad cheap LED fans are versus my "nice" fans)
5x ZM-F3
4x Scythe Ultra Kaze 3Krpm
3x slipstream 1600s
3x slipstream 1900s
5x slipstream 800s(for a customer build)
4x 120x20mm yate loons for power supply swaps
1x Delta GWB 220cfm fan(the beast)
3x antec tri-cools(building a controller for a customer)
4x SFF21E's
4x odd re-brand 80mm leftovers
2x Silverston 60x25mm fans that are quite nice when necessary.

Gotta give vapor some credit for actually going through and quantifying all the data though!