Need help with XP 2200!!!

[DaNefariousBC]

Ok, I'm having some serious trouble cooling this thing down. I've tried just about everything. I'm running an Athlon XP 2200 set at default clock speeds (not a whole lot of room to overclock anyway...) with the following configuration:

Asus A7V333 Mobo
Thermaltake Volcano 7+ w/Arctic Silver III on CPU
512 Megs Samsung PC 2700 RAM
1 HDD & 2 Optical Drives
Antec 480 watt power supply

Anyway, with the cpu idle, i'm getting about 60 C...that sucks! I must admit that my room is very warm despite the AC...I'd say the room temperature is probably somewhere from 80-82 F. When the CPU is at full load, well...it's dangerously close to frying itself....I checked AMD's tech docs and the maximum core temp. for the 2200 is supposed to be 85C. I'm running 60C idle and with a full load it's running 78-80C. Is this simply because the room temperature is so high? I'm moving into a dorm in a month...the room temps. there should be significantly lower. All of the idle temps. are with CPUIdle (the software) running as well. I also have a question about the actual temp. monitoring...I use Motherboard Monitor 5 cuz the Asus probe won;t let u set the maximum temp. for the CPU past 60C before it starts the annoying alarm. Anyway, apparently there are 2 sensors that read the CPU temp (according to MotherBoard Monitor).....one of them consistently reads 10 degrees higher than the other....which one should i trust?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

what is your system temp according to MBM?

How's your case cooling?

the lower "reading" should be your Case temp.Asus1 should be your System temp, Asus 2 should be your CPU temp. ANy other readings should be ignored.

and if your system temp is only 10C below your CPU temp, then my dear god, get some case cooling.



Mike

 

[DaNefariousBC]

I know that Asus 1 is the system temp...it's running 48C. I thought Asus 2 was the CPU temp. originally....but there is another one...it's labeled Asus 2 CUSL2...and that's the one that's consistently 10 degrees higher than Asus 2. I've got two fans that came with the case...their both 80 mm fans...I figured that should be ok.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

asus2 cusl2 is exactly that, the asus2 reading off a CUSL2 and TUSL2 motherboard. Need not apply to the A7V333.

Now your case temps of 48C definately need work. You're not going to drastically drop CPU temps until you work on case cooling.

What kind of case do you have?



Mike

 

[DaNefariousBC]

I bought a custom case just cuz I thought it would look cool...but anyway, here's a link to the case info:

http://www.ahanix.com/platinumxp.html

 

[DaNefariousBC]

By the way, I haven't taken off the side panels for the case...guess i should do that..

 

[NesuD]

Is the rear case fan blowing out and the front case fan blowing into the case? that is how it should be. Check that out. 48c seems way to warm for a case with 2 case fans. should be down around 30c anyway. make sure your cabling is neat as well. Cable clutter in the case can disrupt the proper airflow and reduce the efficiency of your case cooling as well although it shouldn't be that bad.

 

[mechBgon]

60C is a completely acceptable idle temperature for an A7V333. With a 2200+, I'm surprised it isn't higher. Your load temperatures look a little higher than I'd expect... usually a socket-thermistor board wouldn't have temperature swings of 20C from idle to loaded. Initial guess: your case needs more places for air to actually come in. Fans can't make air come from nowhere, they need vents.

Also, if you plugged the fan directly into the board instead of using the variable-speed controller, you might make sure Q-Fan is disabled in the BIOS (it is used by the board to run the fan quieter, and will speed the fan up by stages if CPU temp goes above 60C at the socket thermistor, but it could be malfunctioning).

Of the two readings you were looking at, what does the lower one read? You said they were 10C different, but you didn't tell us which one provided the temps you initially posted.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

MechBGon,

he said teh Asus2 -CUSL2 reading was 10C higher than Asus2 (no shock, since the CUSL2 reading simply is an automatic +10 compensation).

I completely agree with the 60C idle temp being acceptable on that motherboard, but the system temp brings concern (48C?).


Mike

 

[DaNefariousBC]

Well, after I took the side panel off my case, my system temperature dropped from 48C to 38C and the CPU temperature went from 60C to 50-52C when idle. I haven't really monitored the temps. when it's fully loaded. Anyway, like u guys mentioned earlier...I'm pretty sure my case ventilation is screwed up. I had a look at the case fans..the rear fan seems to doing ok; the front case fan is blowing in....but it doesn't seem to be blowing in any air from outside cuz the there isn't a visible vent...kind of defeats the pupose of having fan there in the first place. I looked at the documentation that came with the case...there are supposed to be side vents that suck in air for the front case fan...but they're doing a pretty crappy job.

BTW, mechBgon:

u said that 60C is a completely acceptable temperature for the idle CPU (XP 2200) on the A7V333...what would be an acceptable temperature when the CPU is fully loaded?

 

[mechBgon]

I'd hope it wouldn't go over 70C at the socket thermistor at "normal" room temperatures (72-75F or ~24C). What that equates to in actual core temperatures is a mystery, since the only thing that sees the core diode on an A7V333 is Asus' C.O.P. shutdown circuit.

 

[theNEOone]

I'm running a 2200+ on an A7V333 also. Case temp is 36/98 and CPU is 59/138 using ASUS probe (with me browsing and talking on AIM).

 

[mechBgon]

theNEOone, what's your full-load temperature, if you've noticed one?

 

[theNEOone]

Here's some temps that I've gathered over the past 2 weeks.

Room Temp (C/F) ------- CPU Temp Idle -------- Load (SETI + 15 min Q3)
73/22 ------------------------- 54/129 --------------------- 59-62/138-144
80/27 ------------------------- 59/138 --------------------- 65/149
92/33 ------------------------- 65/149 --------------------- 72/161

I don't have an AC, so that's why I have such big swings in ambient temperature - pretty much at the mercy of mother nature. That last load temperature at 92/33 room temp was taken after about an hour of Warcraft3, no SETI or Q3.

Edit: Thought it might be relevant to add that I'm currently using an Arkua 7528 w/ a 36CFM fan in an Antec case: 1 front intake, 2 rear exhaust 80mm Vantec Stealth fans. Looking to drop the noise (and temps), so I ordered a Thermalright SLK-800 and a variable speed 80mm YS Tech Fan.

 

[mechBgon]

Thanks So the swings are in the 6C area from idle to loaded.

 

[theNEOone]

Yup, just about =]

 

[DaNefariousBC]

With the side panel off, it's doing just fine. I'm getting 50-52C idle and 58-60C fully loaded. That seems pretty good....but I've heard mixed opinions on leaving the side panel open for large periods of time...u know with dust accumilation and all that. I'm going to get some new case fans.....good ones. My system is running very stable though..for the first time, I'm happy =). I played about 3 hours worth of Quake III Arena and temps. stayed 60C for CPU and Mobo. temp was 43C.