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Need help with gaming build!

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DrkProdig69

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1. Gaming/Recording the games on HIGH graphics minecraft,LoL,Tf2
2. $700-900
3. US
4. Buying in the us only.
5. Well i do like the intel CPU's, and the Radeon GPU
6. Ill be using the same keyboard,mouse,moniter and speakers
7. I guess it would be nice to OC, more performance, right?
8. i dont know.....
9. about 2 months saving currently but am going to be buying the parts as soon as i see a good deal on them, or savings.
10. yes i need to get windows 8
I would really like to get this GPU, AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB
 
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Your budget allows for a bit better than a 7850; you can get a 7870, which is somewhat better.

I recommend that you look at mfenn's $1000 build (it's stickied under something like "Attention midrange system builders") and step down to a 7870 instead of the recommended 7970 to make room for your smaller budget and need for an OS.

As for overclocking, it is now extremely easily to overclock the CPU and GPU, so long as your CPU has an unlocked multiplier. All you have to do is bump up the multiplier (found in the BIOS) to match your desired speed. The 3570K that mfenn recommends comes at a default multiplier of 33, giving 3.3 GHz of speed. You can safely bump up the multiplier to around 40 (giving about a 20% power increase to 4.0 GHz), as long as you have an aftermarket cooler. The 212 Evo that is recommended by mfenn is perfectly capable of this kind of low overclock, and costs only $30.

As for the GPU, you can get software, such as Sapphire's Trixx or MSI's Afterburners to bump up the clock speed and/or memory speed of the GPU. The 78XX and
79XX series of Radeons overclock very well (possibly 50% if you are lucky).
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vqBU
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vqBU/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vqBU/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar H77MU3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Green 630W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($50.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Full (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $901.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-02 01:03 EST-0500)

I don't know about cases, but with the potential extra heat from overclocking, I just selected this one because it supposedly had a bunch of fans.
 
Sorry, but im new to this but im guessing the case comes with fans already in it?
EDIT: also im going to need a onboard ethernet card, any suggestions?
 
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The motherboard will have an ethernet port. Is there a reason you need a separate one?

Do you mean that you need wireless?
 
Oh, yes sorry i will need wireless
Also when i was looking at the motherboard alot of people said it wasn't the best for gaming, Overclocking so does anyone have another one they could recommend?
 
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Oh, yes sorry i will need wireless
Also when i was looking at the motherboard alot of people said it wasn't the best for gaming, Overclocking so does anyone have another one they could recommend?
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vtfQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vtfQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vtfQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($200.98 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Rosewill Green 630W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($50.99 @ Amazon)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Full (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...ffiliateID=SyIrj13jmG8-R3nmUbXIvgd_3xVwidFTgQ (thanks to lehtv in the other thread)

Total: $904.86

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-02 09:45 EST-0500)
 
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I've been looking, but it seems like every wireless card I look at has a fair share of complaints, so it's not easy to pick out the most suitable card; store return policy and warranty are a couple things weigh.
 
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Could you give me some links? so i could check them out.
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I've used this Rosewill RNX-N250PCe and it works like a charm on Windows 8. The drivers are built right in, no need to set anything up.

However, any recommendations we give right now are pretty much moot because of this:

DrkProdig69 said:
9. about 2 months saving currently but am going to be buying the parts as soon as i see a good deal on them, or savings.
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Deals will be completely different in 2 months and you'll end up missing out on good stuff if you get "locked in" right now. Additionally, I never recommend buying parts parts piecemeal if you don't have a way to thoroughly test them out. Nothing worse than putting together your shiny new machine only to find out that a part is DOA and outside of the return window.

I'd say to save up for a couple months and then post back when you've got cash in hand.
 
Okay guys i understand its not time for me still to build yet but i am wanting to refine the build with my new needs now im needing to be able to render videos from a elgato HD game recorder from my xbox, so i was thinking i would need a good CPU so i went with the i7 3770k and since i quit playing PC gaming and am mainly going console now i was wondering if the i7 has a built in little GPU so i dont need to buy one, since i dont think i really need it... whats the best thing to do to save some cash here?

My current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ebby
 
So you're saying that you need to render videos that you record on your Xbox, and so longer need to game on the PC?

If you're building a new PC, why the hell would you ever go crawling back to consoles? 7 year out-of-date consoles, which are being replaced within a year by possibly incompatible consoles?

It's like going from a beautiful new Ferrari to a used Ford Focus.

On that particular build, the easiest thing to do is to drop from an i7-3770K to an i5-3570K. There's also cheaper and better memory and cases out there, as well as better (but slightly more expensive) cases.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.54 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($305.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $818.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-18 20:37 EST-0500)

Combine that with the $25.50 Scythe Katana 4 from FrozenCPU (it's better than the 212 Evo).
 
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Basically im going to record with the Elgato HD game recorder render it on my computer and upload to youtube... In the future i will be buying a GPU but for now i dont need one
 
Waaaait... That's not an explanation for Xbox>PC. Seriously. There is recording and gaming software for the PC, you know. And you can get excellent gaming within your budget.

Did you just ignore everything I posted? Because that's what it looks like.
 
This is your first post which confuses me. It says "since i quit playing PC gaming and am mainly going console now" that you'll need a strong CPU to "render videos from a elgato HD game recorder."

DrkProdig69 said:
Okay guys i understand its not time for me still to build yet but i am wanting to refine the build with my new needs now im needing to be able to render videos from a elgato HD game recorder from my xbox, so i was thinking i would need a good CPU so i went with the i7 3770k and since i quit playing PC gaming and am mainly going console now i was wondering if the i7 has a built in little GPU so i dont need to buy one, since i dont think i really need it... whats the best thing to do to save some cash here?
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I said, essentially, "Wow, that's a shite idea considering the fact that a PC with your budget can game far better than an Xbox can, will have better longevity, and you can get a larger variety of games, often for cheaper if you're willing to wait for it to be in a Steam sale, which happens weekly. And it will record the gameplay videos you want it to."

Your best move to save cash is to sell the Xbox and games while their still worth something (before the new one launches) and get into PC gaming.
 
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I have alot of friends who play console so i think i will stick with it, thanks for the suggestion though im just needed this computer to render/edit and general browsing, so if i wont be gaming do i have to have the GPU? if i cut it ill save $300~
 
I suppose I won't insist, but when new consoles come out at around $400 and aren't compatible with old or used games (as the rumors go and the Wii U has showed, at least on the digital side), you'll wish you had just gone console and convinced your friends to also.

Seriously, if your friends own computers that are at least i3 CPUs from Dell or HP, you can probably get a simple $50-60 500W PSU and a $300 GPU. That's about the price of a console for far better graphics and controls. Plus you won't have to pay a subscription to XBox Live (or whatever) anymore, which is going to save you $50 a year at least--that's a AAA game, not even on sale.

Anyway, take the build I mentioned earlier, drop the GPU, and go up to a 3770K. That's enough to render video and edit photos for sure.
 
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Ah, sorry. Something like the CX500 for $50 AR would be more than enough, even if you add a GPU afterward.

Just keep in mind that since you're not buying for a while that many of these prices will have changed. Just look for parts of roughly the same performance, possibly from a different store.
 
Okay thanks also will i need a CPU cooler? and also will the 2 fans that come with the case be enough? Sorry im new to computer building
 
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