Need help with being a lawyer for mock trial.

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Lifer
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I'm doing mock trial for my HS, and I'm gonna be one of the lawyers. I was wondering if there are any good sites that have information on all the codes and such. :)
 

huey1124

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watch Night Court, it's on A&E channel on cable.

i learned all my legal information by watching Sex Court on Playboy channel.
 

piku

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<< Not a bad idea but I'd probably get kicked out of the courtroom. >>



Would they even notice?



(edit: the difference between a large penis and a lawyer that is)
 

Robert01

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Walk in with the costume and say, &quot;Why are you guys staring at me like that? Am I dick or something?&quot;

CourtTv is probably the best place to get some legal insight.
 

ltk007

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Just plagerise (sp?) Atticus Finch's summation and BS a little. That'll be enough for a solid B.
 

DanC

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Critical issue;

Become comfortable with screwing people out of their money for doing nothing. That's paramount in being, (or pretending to be) an attorney.

Second - be comfortable with lying. That's the second step.

Once you are a complete scumbag - then... and only then can you play the part.
 

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It's not for grades. It's a county competition and teams(schools) move up to a state competition.

Also, each team has the same case to do. This years is about a 19 year old murder case. The judge (Real judge..) then decides to finishes first place, etc. depending on how well we did our case.
 

Windogg

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Use Pakin's Complaint Letter Generator:

I have been following the stories and comments surrounding Illkid, and frankly, I'm appalled. Whatever happened to Illkid's sense of humanity? What follows is a call to action for those of us who care -- a large enough number to act as a positive role model for younger people.

So let me make it clear that most people want to be nice; they want to be polite; they don't want to give offense. And because of this inherent politeness, they step aside and let Illkid obstruct things. I just want to spread the word about his devious litanies to our friends, our neighbors, our relatives, our co-workers -- even to strangers. That's why I propose, argue, cajole, plead, wheedle, and joke about ways to reach the broadest possible audience with the message that a great many decent people are just as distressed as I am about his invectives. We all need to be aware of each other's existence as intelligent, feeling, human beings, even if some of us are the most brutal smut peddlers you'll ever see. Currently, Illkid's bons mots merely incite pogroms, purges, and other mayhem. As you will see in the coming days, this is only the tip of a gigantic iceberg.

Illkid's agendas all stem from one, simple, faulty premise -- that we should abandon the institutionalized and revered concept of democracy. Every time Illkid tries, he gets increasingly successful in his attempts to undermine the intellectual purpose of higher education. This dangerous trend means not only death for free thought, but for imagination as well. It's good that you're reading this letter. It's good that you're listening to what I'm saying. But reading and listening aren't enough. You must also be willing to help me take the initiative to do what needs to be done.

He does, occasionally, make a valid point. But when he says that he would sooner give up money, fame, power, and happiness than perform a pouty act, that's where the facts end and the ludicrousness begins. I won't bore you with the details, but suffice it to say that some people are responsible and others are not. Illkid falls into the category of &quot;not&quot;. His attempts to help insidious fugitives evade capture by the authorities are much worse than mere fanaticism. They are hurtful, malicious, criminal behavior and deserve nothing less than our collective condemnation. Leaving aside the behavior of other clueless sleazy whiners, you don't have to say anything specifically about Illkid for him to start attacking you. All you have to do is dare to imply that I should reinforce the contentions of all reasonable people and confute those of what I call biased perverts.

If I hear his emissaries, who are legion, say, &quot;We're supposed to shut up and smile when Illkid says mumpish things&quot; one more time, I'm certainly going to throw up. His method (or school, or ideology -- it is hard to know exactly what to call it) goes by the name of &quot;Illkid-ism&quot;. It is a slaphappy and avowedly supercilious philosophy that aims to threaten the common good. He is utterly gung-ho about feudalism because he lacks more pressing soapbox issues.

Nice try to make things worse, Illkid. Don't kid yourself: Someone has to be willing to give peace a chance. Even if it's not polite to do so. Even if it hurts a lot of people's feelings. Even if everyone else is pretending that public opinion is a reliable indicator of what's true and what isn't. Even though coldhearted pettifoggers must be treated with political justice, not with civil justice, as they are sincerely not real citizens, this does not negate the fact that impolitic losers (like Illkid) are not born -- they are excreted. However unsavory that metaphor may be, Illkid has figuratively enclosed himself in a secure elitist ghetto. Think about it, and I'm sure you'll agree with me. I correctly predicted that he would smear people of impeccable character and reputation. Alas, I didn't think he'd do that so effectively -- or so soon.

I wish I could say this nicely, but I don't have much tolerance for duplicitous Philistines: Illkid wants to destroy the lives of good, honest people. Such intolerance is felt by all people, from every background. So don't tell me that he likes to have difficult social issues presented to him in simple, black-and-white terms just because aside from a few exceptions, this statement is unquestionably valid. At one point, I actually believed that he would stop being so despicable. Silly me. The fact is, ancient Greek dramatists discerned a peculiar virtue in being tragic. Illkid would do well to realize that they never discerned any virtue in being untrustworthy.

The foregoing analysis is self-evident, even if it is sometimes overlooked. Less evident are the specific ways in which we should examine the warp and woof of his solutions. He says that everything is happy and fine and good. What he means by this, of course, is that he wants free reign to prevent the real problems from being solved. Illkid insists that the Queen of England heads up the international drug cartel. This fraud, this lie, is just one among the thousands he perpetrates. Now, lest you jump to the conclusion that hanging out with corrupt fugitives is a wonderful, culturally enriching experience, I assure you that now that I've been exposed to his ideologies, I must admit that I don't completely understand them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps if he thinks his ideals represent progress, Illkid should rethink his definition of progress.

I challenge him to crawl out of his sheltered existence and lay out some ideas and interpretations that hold the potential for insight. Let me rephrase that: The gloss that his forces put on his undertakings unfortunately does little to call for a return to the values that made this country great. Illkid's fierce passions and fiendish cunning, combined with abnormal powers of intellect, with intense vitality, and with a persistency of purpose which the world has rarely seen, and whetted moreover by a keen thirst for blood engendered by defeat and subjection, combine to make him the deadly enemy of all mankind, while his avaricious machinations contribute to inflame his wild lust of pelf, and to justify the crimes suggested by spite and superstition. It's not just the lunatic fringe that's in Illkid's corner; a number of previously respectable people have recently begun backing him. At any rate, Illkid is not only immoral, but amoral.

While self-justification may motivate insufferable gin-swilling individuals, the same stratagems also work well for insecure heavy metal fans. There is something grievously wrong with those blasphemous heartless degenerates who manipulate everything and everybody. Shame on the lot of them! Again, it has been said that now is the time to redefine the rhetoric and make room for meaningful discussion. I, in turn, insist that if it were up to Illkid, schoolchildren would be taught reading, 'riting, and racism. Now that you've read this letter, let me challenge you, the reader, not just to help me anneal discourse with honesty, clear thinking, and a sense of moral good, but also to educate others about what I've written.



 

shopbruin

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illkid, where are you competing? and what's the cast this year?

the best thing that can happen:
get real life attorneys to help you out. They can help critique your case but they will not write it for you.

practice everything as much as possible. get good with questioning witnesses. If you're doing direct, be compassionate. If you're doing cross, be mean. You get more points if you get to the core and pick apart their testimony. Also, learn your objections. you look SO good if you make GOOD objections. Not a lot, but quality objections.

try to line up some practice competitions with other schools in your area. it can help you out a lot competition time.

My personal nitpicks: dress up! suit and tie, with blazer. nice shoes, be groomed and professional. no backpacks! the key here is professionalism. witnesses can slide with some things, espeically if that's their role, but attorneys must be professional. Also, don't use notes. if you're doing the closing, notes are fine. but your directs and openings should be memorized. but don't sound mechanical.

i only did mock trial for two years but i loved it. the second year we broke to quarters for the first time in ten years. woohoo!
 

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It's about a mother who has been accused by her son of killing her daughter when she was 6, 19 years ago. The son, now 24, asks local cops to look into the case a bit more since the mother had claimed it was an accident and the coroner concurred with them. The father died a couple of weeks later in a car crash. Anyways, the son finally remembers that things weren't right and is remembering things that he remembers happening, but fine details could be made up by him to complete the picture (There's some psychology term for it, I just can't remember it at the moment). As for our evidence, skin from the mother was found under the daughters fingernails and blood on rags has linked her to doing it. That's about it for now.
 

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Lifer
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My school is competing in San Joaquin County. We have two teams at our school, defense and prosecution, so we end up practicing against each other. :)
 

Aceman

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I took mock trials in college. I was a witness in one and a prosecuting attorney in the other. Are you prosecuting or defending? If prosecuting, you're going to have to hone in on the hard facts of the case to be successful. You can't win with speculation as a prosecutor. If you're the defense attorney, you need to tactfully rip into the son and his &quot;new memories&quot;. I badgered a witness and used profanity in one of my cross examinations of a witness and was found in contempt of court (minus 5% of my grade)