Need help with air cooling

[Vinka]

Hi

I bought my new pc last year. Everything was working fine, until the fan of my video card died. For now I'm using and old EVGA 7800GT.

PC Probe shows that my cpu temperature is 47C, motherboard 39C and EVGA Precision tells me my 7800GT is around 60C (iddle). I live in a tropical country, and heat has been severe this year.

I need your help choosing the rights coolers for both my processor and my 4890.

My system:
Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two
PSU: PC Power and Cooling S75QB Silencer 750W Quad
Memory: OCZ OCZ3P1333LV6GK DDR3 PC3-10666 1333 MHz 6GB Platinum XTC Triple Channel Kits
Processor: Intel Core i7 920
Hard Drives: 2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB
Motherboard: Asus P6T
Monitor: LG L22WTG & SAMSUNG 32" HDTV 1080p
GPU: Powercolor HD 4890

Thanks for your help

 

[Kenmitch]

Maybe it would be best to state some kind of budget for the coolers

What country do you live in? Might help for suggestions also as availability could be an issue.

 

[Vinka]

I'm from Venezuela, and Amazon is almost the only place online where I can buy components from, but I'm open to suggestions if anyone knows about a reputable online store which accepts non USA issued credit cards (or doesn't have problems if the billing and shipping address are different).

From what I've read I think that around 200 ~ 300 should be more than enough. One of my main concerns is the size of some of the coolers I've read about. I need to make sure that everything I buy fits, because returning items costs too much from where I live.

Maybe I should add that today I'm buying and additional hard drive (caviar black 2tb). Would it be better to put it in an external USB case or installing it inside the pc would be a bad idea (more heat?).

 

[Kenmitch]

So maybe something like the Arctic Cooling Accelero TWIN TURBO would work for the 4890.

For the CPU have you thought about maybe the Corsair H50/H70 I know they aren't air coolers but they are easy to install and have good performance.

Do you run stock speeds or do you overclock?

I doubt adding another HD would make much diff on overall system temps.

 

[Vinka]

Thanks for your quick answers!

I don't overclock.

I'm not so sure about a water cooler...

 

[Kenmitch]

I'm not so sure about a water cooler...

Just a thought on them....Not hard to install but performance is good

If your running stock speeds anyways you most likely could get by with the Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus which is alot cheaper. Also seems to be suggested alot.

What do you use your system for primarily? Do you encode video for long periods of time? Do you game for days on end? Might be of some use for the best solution to fit your needs.

 

[rolodomo]

I recently installed a Scythe Mushashi onto a 4890 to quiet the 4890 down for a "gaming" HTPC build. I got excellent cooling results and the Mushashi is very quiet. Best of all, it lets you re-use the reference-design 4890 vrm/memory block heatsink, which due to its sheer size actually outperforms after-market heatsinks.

It is listing for $37 US right now at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...scythe+musashi

 

[Vinka]

Kenmitch:

Well, I can spend a whole weekend just playing games (mainly RPGs, simulation and strategy games and recently some casual games). From time to time I like to play older games

If the game works with a gamepad I like to play it on the TV, but I also watch movies, surf the internet. Sometimes I work a little (visual studio, sql server).

rolodomo:

Thanks for your suggestion!

 

[balane]

I was hesitant about water coolers myself but I thought I would give the H50 a try when I got my i7 hardware. Let me tell you, it was the easiest high end cooler I've ever installed, just a real snap to get in. Took me maybe ten minutes. Corsair has some great videos to help if you need it. (I watched them after I installed mine.) My temps are great and it's very quiet. I've had it for several months now and it shows no sign anywhere of being anything but absolutely dry on the outside.

If you just don't want the Corsair water kit that's fine but if you're worried about it being hard to install, leaking, loud or a bad performer please don't be, because none of those are true.

Here's a pic of mine, look how clean and tidy the system is inside because of it.

http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res89pejl/office.jpg

 

[dmoney1980]

I was hesitant about water coolers myself but I thought I would give the H50 a try when I got my i7 hardware. Let me tell you, it was the easiest high end cooler I've ever installed, just a real snap to get in. Took me maybe ten minutes. Corsair has some great videos to help if you need it. (I watched them after I installed mine.) My temps are great and it's very quiet. I've had it for several months now and it shows no sign anywhere of being anything but absolutely dry on the outside.

If you just don't want the Corsair water kit that's fine but if you're worried about it being hard to install, leaking, loud or a bad performer please don't be, because none of those are true.

Here's a pic of mine, look how clean and tidy the system is inside because of it.

http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res89pejl/office.jpg

Nice ! Can i ask what case you used ? Also, for your h50 setup, do you have the fan set to take in air to the case or exhaust it out ?

I recently installed a Scythe Mushashi onto a 4890 to quiet the 4890 down for a "gaming" HTPC build. I got excellent cooling results and the Mushashi is very quiet. Best of all, it lets you re-use the reference-design 4890 vrm/memory block heatsink, which due to its sheer size actually outperforms after-market heatsinks.

It is listing for $37 US right now at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...scythe+musashi

+1 I have the same exact cooler on my 4830. granted the 4830 is not known to be top of the line or a heater, but the Musashi does great with noise. the best part is it comes with dials so you can adjust the speed of the fans - dial it up when gaming and then back down when not....

 

[balane]

Thx. Case is the Thermaltake Element G. I'm not a big Tt guy but this is a really nice case. I bought it to tide me over until the new Corsair case came out but I'm so happy with it that I'm passing on the Corsair 600T.

The H50 fan is an exhaust fan. I agree with most that this is the direction it should be pointed.

 

[dmoney1980]

the Corsair 600T looks nice, saw it up close at a local Micro Center - it's huge ! If it was a little smaller and not so W I D E I would pick it up

 

[Vinka]

If you just don't want the Corsair water kit that's fine but if you're worried about it being hard to install, leaking, loud or a bad performer please don't be, because none of those are true.

I've had problems in the past when some things I've purchased have been slightly damaged, and I can't RMA anything (the cost of shipping to-from USA would be higher than the price of some of the items). It seems to me that if a fan suffers damage, at least I'm going to notice because it won't start but if any part containing liquid has problems... well... Also, what kind of maintenance does a water cooling system requires (if any?)

Here's a pic of mine, look how clean and tidy the system is inside because of it.http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res89pejl/office.jpg

Very nice and tidy, indeed!


So, buying a Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus for the CPU and a Scythe Mushashi for my video card is all I need? No extra fans, thermal compounds, or anything more?

If I install everything right, what temperatures could I expect?

 

[dmoney1980]

I've had problems in the past when some things I've purchased have been slightly damaged, and I can't RMA anything (the cost of shipping to-from USA would be higher than the price of some of the items). It seems to me that if a fan suffers damage, at least I'm going to notice because it won't start but if any part containing liquid has problems... well... Also, what kind of maintenance does a water cooling system requires (if any?)


Very nice and tidy, indeed!


So, buying a Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus for the CPU and a Scythe Mushashi for my video card is all I need? No extra fans, thermal compounds, or anything more?

If I install everything right, what temperatures could I expect?

You can always opt to use different fans than the ones that come stock with the case. The one fan that comes to mind that everybody recommends is Scythe Gentle Typhoons. The 120mm version with 1450 rpm's seems to be the best overall for performance and low noise. For thermal compunds I recommend Artic Silver 5 or Tuniq TX

 

[balane]

Just FYI, the Corsairs and other systems like them are 100% maintenance free. Completely sealed systems that you install and forget about. I like using Everest with it because it allows me to use a sidebar gadget that tells me fan speed and water pump rpm, in addition to temperatures. It's nice to be able to watch that stuff.

 

[Vinka]

Well, I placed my order:

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus $28.02
Scythe MUSASHI $37.95
ArticClean kit $6.93
TUNIQ TX-3. $9.99

I only had to pay shipping for the Musashi.

I didn't find the Scythe Gentle Typhoons 1450 rpm. (they are sold out). Are there any alternatives? I value most a superior air flow than a super lower noise.

 

[dmoney1980]

Any of the other Gentle Typhoon fans should do -I believe they offer 1100 rpm and 1800 rpm models.

Other fans to consider: Scythe Kama 120mm PWM Fan (DFS122512L-PWM)
or Nanoxia FX12-1250

you can google "silent pc review" and check out their website, they have a ton of info on case fans and coolers