About 4 years ago i was really into this forum buying and selling stuuf, i have built several computers but have been really busy with my job and other stuff for several years. I want to make myself a High end gaming machine but am not up to date with the new technology that has come out recently, can somebody please help me. pricing isnt so much a problem since i will be peicing it together over a couple months. Mainly need to know MOBO, Processor and vid cards. Thanks in advance
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Need help- specs for high end gaming PC
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Here's a start.
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http://sysbuild.corsairmemory.com/report.aspx?id=2
Check AT links for computer builds and read threads.
Do the research, collect components, list items on AT for feedback, order & lastly build.
Even now, the top of the line graphics cards (Crossfire X1900XT and SLI 7900GTX) are bottlenecked by even overclocked Athlon FX CPUs in certain situations. It's not inconceivable that the next-gen cards will suffer even more if CPU performance doesn't increase. From now until K8L arrives, AMD won't have many options besides bumping up clock speed in order to increase the performance of their CPUs, AFAIK.
Conroe, however, is showing a significant increase in performance over the FX CPUs and can also be overclocked to high speeds. If you compare C2D and FX processors of the same performance (well, I'm extrapolating the benchmarks), the C2D is a much better value.
PhoenixOrion
Diamond Member
or upgrade to A64 4400 X2 (with upcoming price cuts) with x1900xt and 2GB DDR 2-3-2-5 (selling around $150).
....cheapest way to go for something that I would still consider a high end gaming pc but
without the price premium of new products that may still need a lot of tweaking for the duration of this year. I can't see myself paying for a motherboard (conroe or AM2 support) selling close to $300.
do an AMD X2 4800
two ATI 19K XTX cards in crossfire
Asus premium deluxe board, one of the most expensive Asus boardz on newegg.com
2gigs of 2-2-2-5 sticks @ DDR400
15K SCSI drives in RAID
SATA DVD-RW drives, floppy drive too
an LCD monitor, Dell Ultrasharp 19" I recommend
==there's your kick ass rig==
two ATI 19K XTX cards in crossfire
Asus premium deluxe board, one of the most expensive Asus boardz on newegg.com
2gigs of 2-2-2-5 sticks @ DDR400
15K SCSI drives in RAID
SATA DVD-RW drives, floppy drive too
an LCD monitor, Dell Ultrasharp 19" I recommend
==there's your kick ass rig==
The Conroe E6600 delivers much more performance than the X2 4800+, at less than half the price. An X1900XTX is provides less FPS/$ than the X1900XT (which can be OCed to more than make up the speed difference); doubling the number of cards only exacerbates the poorer value. AFAIK, there's no Asus board that's appended with both "Premium" and "Deluxe". And why use a RAID of 15K RPM SCSI drives for a gaming rig?
Then again, aside from the CPU, it doesn't matter if you have lots of money to burn.
bamacre
Lifer
They should be available when Conroe (Core 2 Duo, or C2D) becomes available.
Howard is SPOT on, C2D (thanks Howard 😀) will be fairly revolutionary as far as price/performance, and I would further advise you to not buy anything until you are ready to buy everything, with the exception of maybe a hot deal on a hard drive, or something like that which won't depreciate in a month's time.
You will likely want 2GB of DDR2-800 memory for C2D, which should fall in price within the next 30 days (we all hope), maybe an Asus motherboard, and I would research video cards and pricing a couple of days before purchase. It seems video cards and their accompanying prices can change on the drop of a dime.
Howard is SPOT on, C2D (thanks Howard 😀) will be fairly revolutionary as far as price/performance, and I would further advise you to not buy anything until you are ready to buy everything, with the exception of maybe a hot deal on a hard drive, or something like that which won't depreciate in a month's time.
You will likely want 2GB of DDR2-800 memory for C2D, which should fall in price within the next 30 days (we all hope), maybe an Asus motherboard, and I would research video cards and pricing a couple of days before purchase. It seems video cards and their accompanying prices can change on the drop of a dime.
deadseasquirrel
Golden Member
It depends on those "certain situations" really though. I agree with you 100% at 1280x1024 and below (the majority of LCDs out there). But at resolutions above that, only the GPU power will hold a system back (I'll link some benches below).
When I hear someone wanting to build a high-end gaming machine, a 1280x1024 LCD doesn't come to my mind. IMO, if the OP isn't putting a good deal of money into a very good LCD or a good CRT, then, yes, the ultra-high-end GPU is wasted unless he matches it up with a good CPU. If he's planning on playing at 1600x1200 or above, a simple A64 3000+ would give him similar performance as high-end FX chips (and likely Conroe as well).
CPU is an FX-57 and frames go lower as res goes higher than 16x12-- 1, 2... well the whole article basically since it focuses on CFire, SLI, and the GX2.
CPU scaling for Oblivion... 800+mhz extra speed... dual-core... Oblivion doesn't care.
Conroe may beat AM2 by 40% in Far Cry... but that's at 1024x768. That gain drops to 0% for Q4 and SC:CT at 1600x1200 with AA/AF. Since we know AM2 isn't really much faster than their sckt939 counterparts, it's relatively safe to assume Conroe isn't going to be faster than sckt939 at higher resolutions. For those with 19" LCDs, it's a different story.
IMO, if you want a high-end gaming rig right now, spec out a great 20"+ LCD monitor or CRT, match it with the absolute best GPU solution out there (if you like ATI go Crossfire, if nV go either SLI GTX or GX2), pick out a powerful PSU, then grab whatever A64 you can get with the rest of your budget (the 3000+ are going for $100 right now).
Here's one way to look at it if you're interested in gaming at 1600x1200-- let's use Oblivion for example since I found a bench that shows single and dual GPUs well. If you spend a lot for a high-end CPU, you'll get no benefit at all at 1600x1200 (as shown in my link above). However, if you go with a low-end chip and match it with a second gfx card, you can almost double your frames:
single GTX-- 20.3
SLI GTX-- 38.7 (91% increase)
Granted, 2 GTXs can kill any budget... even one where price is "no object". But, the same holds true for the cheaper SLI GTs. You can grab those now for $250 ea. with a hot deal. That's $500 plus $100 for the 3000+. For $600, you'll get a lot better performance with that than with a single GT matched with an X2 4200+ for the exact same price.
Sorry for the long post. These are just some thoughts that come to my head when someone mentions a high-end gaming system.
Thank you very much that really helps me out. that is exactly what i was thinking but i am not to up to date with what has come out, but it makes sense. It would prolly be to my benfit to fork out the extra cash for a x2 cpu, especially if the price drops with conroe coming out, because i will be using the pc for other things than gaming as well. Im thinking a x2 with 2 descent vid cards and a badass monitor and 2 gigs of ddr ram. Am i thinking logically?
deadseasquirrel
Golden Member
I think if you're looking at X2, then you should definitely wait just a little bit more. And, if you're waiting that little bit for the price drop, you might as well wait for Conroe to arrive to consumers, as well as AM2. At least *something* with an upgrade path. 939 is essentially a dead-end for long-term upgrades. So, although the price drops might make it look more attractive, I think it's in your best interest to pick a platform with some life.
My advice was mainly for if you had to built right now. But my previous advice still stands-- pick out a great monitor that you love the most, and build your system around that. Not enough people do that, IMO.
PhoenixOrion
Diamond Member
Ok I'll bite.
Specs for High End Gaming:
Conroe Extreme EX6800 with liquid cooling
RD600 Motherboard with 2 GFX cards in Crossfire
2GB DDR2-1066
700Watt OCZ GameXStream
16mb cache Raptor
24" widescreen LCD Acer
Specs for High End Gaming:
Conroe Extreme EX6800 with liquid cooling
RD600 Motherboard with 2 GFX cards in Crossfire
2GB DDR2-1066
700Watt OCZ GameXStream
16mb cache Raptor
24" widescreen LCD Acer
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