need help picking out a medium/large(ish) hdtv

dolph

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i'm not even sure which direction to go (plasma, lcd, front/rear projection, etc). the only constraints i have are the dimensions, which are: 27" deep x 50" wide x 36" (maybe 42") high, so i'm basically looking at a 57" max screen size (though now i realize that nothing that big is made widescreen). also, under $10,000. i haven't followed this stuff in quite some time, so i don't know where to start. all i'm sure of is that i want it to be widescreen. the room it will occupy has a lot of daylight, and though the furthest distance to the tv is only about 12', it needs to have a viewing angle of about 90 degrees. if any additional information is needed, i'll be happy to supply whatever i can. tia
 

Amused

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http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLN507WX%2fXAA

This is your best bet among affordable options for a brightly lit room. You can crank the contrast (white level) up without burn-in worries.

46.6" w / 33.8" h / 17.6 d"

There aren't any 57" 16:9 options out there that are under 45" wide. Hell, there aren't any 50" 16:9 that are under 45" wide.

Most 51" 16:9 TVs are around 47" wide. The 50" Samsung I'm showing you is 46.6" Is that too wide? If so, Samsung makes a 46" DLP that is 40" wide here:

http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLN467WX%2fXAA

Look under "specs" not "size." "Size" is the size of the shipping box.
 

dolph

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yeah, i kind of realized that just now (57" 16:9 @ 45" wide). i wasn't thinking in terms of widescreen when i came up with that number. unfortunately though, my dimensions are set in stone (well, wood), so i have no give.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: dolph
yeah, i kind of realized that just now (57" 16:9 @ 45" wide). i wasn't thinking in terms of widescreen when i came up with that number. unfortunately though, my dimensions are set in stone (well, wood), so i have no give.

OK, then the 46" Samsung DLP is your best option, in my opinion.

No way you can re-work some of the cabinetry?
 

dolph

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Originally posted by: Amused
No way you can re-work some of the cabinetry?

believe me, i'm sure going to try. there are doors that slide out from the side to cover the tv now, but if i can convince someone to allow said doors to be removed... i'll get back on that one.

beyond that, are there any other brands i should even consider? panasonic plasmas, sony projections, etc?
 

conjur

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Get thee a 48" Mitsubishi 48413

'nuff said!


MODEL       SIZE HEIGHT  WIDTH   DEPTH WEIGHT
WS-48413 48?   49?         44-1/2?  24? 180lbs.
WS-55413 55?   50-1/2?   50-1/2?  28? 250lbs.
WS-65413 65"   62?         58-7/8?  28? 333lbs.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: conjur
Get thee a 48" Mitsubishi 48413

'nuff said!


MODEL       SIZE HEIGHT  WIDTH   DEPTH WEIGHT
WS-48413 48?   49?         44-1/2?  24? 180lbs.
WS-55413 55?   50-1/2?   50-1/2?  28? 250lbs.
WS-65413 65"   62?         58-7/8?  28? 333lbs.

He's using this in a brightly lit room. Don't you think a CRT based RPTV would be a bad idea, considering the fact that he's going to crank up the contrast to torch mode just to see it?

Also, doesn't mits have a bad track record with displaying SD content?

If this was a dedicated HT application, I might agree with you. But it sounds like a brightly sunlit familiy room with lots of SD content watched. In that case, I can't recommend anything BUT the DLP.
 

Tetsuo

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Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLN507WX%2fXAA This is your best bet among affordable options for a brightly lit room. You can crank the contrast (white level) up without burn-in worries. 46.6" w / 33.8" h / 17.6 d" There aren't any 57" 16:9 options out there that are under 45" wide. Hell, there aren't any 50" 16:9 that are under 45" wide. Most 51" 16:9 TVs are around 47" wide. The 50" Samsung I'm showing you is 46.6" Is that too wide? If so, Samsung makes a 46" DLP that is 40" wide here: http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLN467WX%2fXAA Look under "specs" not "size." "Size" is the size of the shipping box.

Fscking A!

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: conjur
Get thee a 48" Mitsubishi 48413

'nuff said!


MODEL       SIZE HEIGHT  WIDTH   DEPTH WEIGHT
WS-48413 48?   49?         44-1/2?  24? 180lbs.
WS-55413 55?   50-1/2?   50-1/2?  28? 250lbs.
WS-65413 65"   62?         58-7/8?  28? 333lbs.

He's using this in a brightly lit room. Don't you think a CRT based RPTV would be a bad idea, considering the fact that he's going to crank up the contrast to torch mode just to see it?

Also, doesn't mits have a bad track record with displaying SD content?

If this was a dedicated HT application, I might agree with you. But it sounds like a brightly sunlit familiy room with lots of SD content watched. In that case, I can't recommend anything BUT the DLP.

Guess I was assuming window treatments could block out the daylight.

And, Mits have gotten better with SD content. Heck, my old 55857 does fine, imo. 4:3 SDTV material actually looks pretty darn good but there are some channels that look a bit wanting for PQ.
 

TechnoKid

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I'd get an LCoS for the price of that 70" Sony.

The philips 55PL9773 is an LCoS projection soon to be availible, but its 55" and about $4200. The october Sound & Vision magazine just tested that TV against the RCA HDLP50W151 and the Toshiba 57HX83 (i think the have a 93 series out now). The samsung DLP tvs are nice too.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: conjur
Get thee a 48" Mitsubishi 48413

'nuff said!


MODEL       SIZE HEIGHT  WIDTH   DEPTH WEIGHT
WS-48413 48?   49?         44-1/2?  24? 180lbs.
WS-55413 55?   50-1/2?   50-1/2?  28? 250lbs.
WS-65413 65"   62?         58-7/8?  28? 333lbs.

He's using this in a brightly lit room. Don't you think a CRT based RPTV would be a bad idea, considering the fact that he's going to crank up the contrast to torch mode just to see it?

Also, doesn't mits have a bad track record with displaying SD content?

If this was a dedicated HT application, I might agree with you. But it sounds like a brightly sunlit familiy room with lots of SD content watched. In that case, I can't recommend anything BUT the DLP.

Guess I was assuming window treatments could block out the daylight.

And, Mits have gotten better with SD content. Heck, my old 55857 does fine, imo. 4:3 SDTV material actually looks pretty darn good but there are some channels that look a bit wanting for PQ.

I don't know if Dolph is married or lives with a girl, but they don't take kindly to you turning their home into a cave. :) I know... I've tried. :p
 

dolph

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well, i was able to convince someone else to remove the doors (and with surprising ease, too). i've been reconsidering the daylight issue, too... and i don't think it's as much of an issue as i thought it was before. after all, people are rarely around during the day at my house and when they are, they're not watching tv. does that leave other tvs more desireable (the mits is still too tall; nothing can be done about that), or is the 50" sammy still my best choice?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: dolph
well, i was able to convince someone else to remove the doors (and with surprising ease, too). i've been reconsidering the daylight issue, too... and i don't think it's as much of an issue as i thought it was before. after all, people are rarely around during the day at my house and when they are, they're not watching tv. does that leave other tvs more desireable (the mits is still too tall; nothing can be done about that), or is the 50" sammy still my best choice?

I'd say yes, still go for the DLP. During the summer it's bright outside well past 8:00 PM. So you still want something bright.

PLUS, since you'll be watching quite a bit of SD material, you can display it without stretching it. The 50" sammy is your best choice in my opinion.
 

Ameesh

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I own a Samsung DLP 61" and i would highly reccomend it, they can be had at prices as low as $3850, they have a 50" version also but i would suggest just going with the 61" if you can handle 57" pm me if you have any questions
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
I own a Samsung DLP 61" and i would highly reccomend it, they can be had at prices as low as $3850, they have a 50" version also but i would suggest just going with the 61" if you can handle 57" pm me if you have any questions

He can't. He has a space of 45-47" (I'm assuming taking the doors off added 2 inches) wide to work with. No way is the 61" going to fit. Of course, if I was him I'd make the changes required to make it fit, but it sounds like he has someone else to answer to here.
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ameesh
I own a Samsung DLP 61" and i would highly reccomend it, they can be had at prices as low as $3850, they have a 50" version also but i would suggest just going with the 61" if you can handle 57" pm me if you have any questions

He can't. He has a space of 45-47" (I'm assuming taking the doors off added 2 inches) wide to work with. No way is the 61" going to fit. Of course, if I was him I'd make the changes required to make it fit, but it sounds like he has someone else to answer to here.

well they have a 43" and 50" model either one of them would be a good tv to get.