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Need help picking a SFF for a secondary rig. Athlon XP based.

coolred

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I am building a new dual Xeon rig, so my current AXP rig will be pushed into a secondary role. I have limited space in my apartment though and only need the second rig for networking purposes rather then as an actual second computer. I have a nice area above the file drawer in my desk. Its apporiximate dimension are this:19.5" deep, 14.25" wide and 11.75" height. There is a lip on the front of the desk making the heighth only about 10.25" at the entrance, but I can always put it in from the back if I have to.


I have been looking around myself, bt wanted to check some others opinions. Like I said, this is a secondary rig, so it doesn't have to be anything to special. I have been checking out the Antec aria as well as SFF's from shuttle and biostar and a few others. I like the ability of the Aria to accept mATX boards, but find it a bit ugly(not too big a deal)and I know it can have heat issues. But I will only be putting 1 hard drive, 1 optical drive, the CPU is a AXP2100+ Tbred, 2x256MB Crucial PC2100, radeon 8500DV and maybe a PCI card or 2, not sure if I need to use them or not yet.

I like the shuttles and biostars and others like it because they are a bit smaller, although as long as the thing fits in the space, thats all that matters. Actually if its too small, it may look odd in such a big space. They also tend to be better looking and have better cooling. They lack the ability for the most part of putting in whatever motherboard you want. So thats kind of a con.


With a decent mATX motherboard, the Antec Aria+motherboard can easily be just as expensive or maybe even more so, then the low end AXP shuttles and biostars. SO price isn't that much differance. I don't want to spend too much though, so cheap is good. Thanks
 
I have a Biostar ideq 210v ( @ newegg right now for $140+ $3 shipping).

I like it - it's quiet and stable.
Parts: XP 2000+, 2x256 PC2100, fx5200 (passive cooling), DVD-ROM, and 2x HDDs.

Pros:
* Small
* Quiet
* Sliding door hides non-matching optical drive bezel
* Factory internal cable routing is nicely done

Cons:
* CPU temp is higher than what most people here would desire - not to be confused with being too hot. (Note: this is with the system control utility regulating fan speeds. If fans are set at 100%, temps are approx. the same as my A64 3200+ @ idle.) I chose quieter vs. cooler.

* Putting in two hard drives took a little effort (the factory cabling isn't designed for two hard drives).

And, uh, I think that's about it. Overall I'd recommend it. Inexpensive for a SFF and does everything that I need it to do.
 
Yeah I actually kind alike the biostars better then the shuttles myself, just from looks I guess, since I haven't ever used either. Now I just have to decide if the 200N is worth the extra 65.00 bucks over the 210V. Any help here? And why does the black version have to cost so much more? I mean 30 bucks just to make it black. I understand the black looks great and I would prefer it, but man thats a lot of cash just for the color.
 
Im looking at SFFs myself too. the motherboard and power supply of my second computer died and a SFF is the best replacement for me.

i think the N series has the nforce2 motherboard. i dont know if its worth the extra $65. let us know what you decide.
 
If i go for the biostar, I am leaning toward the N model. I am not sure if it is totally worth it. I mean I know the nForce 2 board is better then the via board. Not only in performance but also in features. Its just a matter if you need the performance and features. I don't really need the performance, but then again the more power I can squeeze out of that CPU, the longer it will perform up to par. And since its main task will likely be distributed computing, more power is better. I also like the oboard video over that of the Via based biostar.
 
I have a 200 VB (Black) Biostar and I have to admit, I love the little fella. I have to agree with what fisheye said back there also, it's a nice little system. The Via chipset is pretty plain vanilla and it doesn't seem to be overclock friendly, at least for me. The Nforce version would be nice if you can swing the extra $$.
 
Thinking about down sizing myself. Still got a sealed retail Barton 2500+ week 33 in the closet. Might just get a 200N and I'll have a system up and running in no time.
 
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