need help on this slow amd 64 3000+

jay13sz

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I recently purchased an entire new rig and the processor is running amazingly slow in stock, sisoft arithmetic/multimedia benchmarks has it running below an AMD athlon xp 2400+'s scores. Dunno whats wrong. Its running at HT x5, fsb at 200, internal clock at 1.8 ghz (x9 multiplier). OCing above 215 fsb with lowered ram timings and lowered ht will lock the system : /

My specs are as follows:

AMD 64 3000+ socket 939 winchester (week 37)(arctic silver 5 + thermaltake venus)(cool n quiet off)
msi k8n neo2 platinum (latest bios / fail safe settings)
1 gb corsair value ram (running in dual channel default timings with copper heatspreaders)
rosewill nvidia 5900 XT (128 mb)
cooler master 450w active pfc psu
 

ts3433

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Run Prime on that CPU at stock... that production week looks something like the one that couldn't pass that at stock speeds. If that's what you have, it seems a legitimate reason to RMA if you didn't damage the thing by overclocking it (even lightly).
 

Stormgiant

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First, did you install nforce drivers ?
Second, did you change de HT when overclocking 5x215 = 1075htt... some boards do, some boards don't. Recomend not to exceed 1000/1050.

Also, did you read this forum ?
There about 500 threads for the past week about A64 problems to help you out..... :S
 

jay13sz

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yeah i did read all the forums, i tried every suggestion to no avail. I'm gonna try to rma this pos : ( but dunno if it will happen cause i passed the 30 day mark since i purchased it... (do you guys know if gameve.com is good about customer service?) i might have to sell it on ebay if worse comes to worst.

the HT settings are in my original post, i set it to 4x
 

Stormgiant

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Originally posted by: jay13sz
Dunno whats wrong. Its running at HT x5, fsb at 200, internal clock at 1.8 ghz (x9 multiplier). OCing above 215 fsb with lowered ram timings and lowered ht will lock the system : /

Are you sure you wrote 4x on the first post ? :confused:
 

jay13sz

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Dec 29, 2004
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" OCing above 215 fsb with lowered ram timings and lowered ht will lock the system : / "

heh i guess i didnt write 4x...
 

sodcha0s

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Off the top of my head, I'd say you're having some sort of driver or setup issues. What kind of dirves are you using? RAID? Fresh OS install? It can be lots of different things...
 

jay13sz

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no raid although i do have 2 sata drives, fresh os install, latest drivers from nvidia, latest bios (beta 1.51, i tried all other bios but no improvement)
 

sodcha0s

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Might be a problem with the way you have the drives set up in BIOS. You MUST enable RAID in BIOS, even if you're not using it, for stability. There is a guide on exactly how to set this up, I am trying to find it and when I do I'll post it here.
 

sodcha0s

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FOUND IT!

I was having issues myself, the system was not stable and seemed sluggish. Once I followed the instructions in this guide everything was fine. Hope it helps you also.
 

jay13sz

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k so i enabled raid but i saw no performance diff in the benchmarks, i tried keeping my boot drive in single raid - but no performance gain either - i switched from sata1/2 to sata 3/4 - but nothing changed - could it just be the cpu itself is whack...

btw thanks for going out of your way to find this stuff for me :D
 

entech

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Are week 38 CPU's as bad as the week 37's? I've got a week 38 3000+ and it overclocks like POS just as jay's...
 

jay13sz

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at least your cpu runs at its stock rated speed right? mine runs below an amd athlon xp 2400+ :confused:
 

sodcha0s

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Oh well, sorry that didn't help. It could be your CPU, the only way to tell is to put a different one in your machine and see what happens. Have you at least contacted AMD to see what they say about it? Also there is a forum on AMD's site that may be of some help. Good luck!
 

Mene

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I put a new system together yesterday. Testing the system (prior to OS install) for overclockability revealed similar problems. It would hang during posting at 210MHz FSB and HTT=5x and hang at any FSB with HTT different than 5x. The system is also similar to yours ... it consists of:

A64 3200+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (bios vers. 1.4)
1GB (2 x 512MB - VS1GBKIT400) Corsair Value Select RAM (running in dual channel)
WD SATA 160 drive

Reading around the different forums, I found this:

"In order to get the AGP to work, you need to set the freq to 67. Only SATA ports 3 & 4 have working PCI locks."

Implementing these two changes has allowed overclocking. I haven't yet tested the system to its limit, but memtest86 has been running without errors for the last 1 hr with these settings:

HT: 4x
FSB: 250MHz
AGP Freq: 67MHz
CPU Voltage: 5% over Video (3.3% would not work)
Memory Voltage: 2.7v (AUTO setting gave 1 error on memtest in the second pass)

Memory
-Max Memory Clock: 166
-1T/2T Memory Time: 1T
-Tcl: 2.5
-Trcd: 3
-Tras: 10
-Trp: 3

Hope this is helpful.