Need help, northbridge chip constantly overheats

[grabadude]

Motherboard is Abit IS7-E Ver 1.0 (old NB fan)
Cpu P4 2.8
Ati 9800 P

Current temps:

CPU - 27 C

System - 35 C

NB - 44 C

When I play games the temp on NB comes close to 60 C. Games start to stutter, etc

No overclocked components

Please suggest something, thanx

 

[jhurst]

Originally posted by: grabadude
Motherboard is Abit IS7-E Ver 1.0 (old NB fan)
Cpu P4 2.8
Ati 9800 P

Current temps:

CPU - 27 C

System - 35 C

NB - 44 C

When I play games the temp on NB comes close to 60 C. Games start to stutter, etc

No overclocked components

Please suggest something, thanx

I think you have your sensors confused. There is no way that your NB is hotter than your CPU, and there is no way in hell that your system temp is hotter than your CPU. It's prolly like this:

CPU - 44C
NB - 35C
System - 27C

The 60C reading you are getting is probably your CPU temp reading. NB's don't generate that much heat, that is why most motherboards can get away with passive cooling (no fan at all). And why people take the NB fan off (or disable it) to cut down on noise. Some motherboards don't even put a HS on the NB.

Double check and make sure you have the right diodes going to the right monitors.

 

[Dman877]

Hehe, unless that 2.8 P4 is actually a Duron 700, there's no way your cpu is the coolest component out of the 3 . What do you mean by stuttery in games? Have you tried lowering in-game options? Maybe it's a low framerate...

 

[jhurst]

Heat isn't what causes "stuttering" in games. I have seen the same system run the same FPS at 40C and at 72C (beyond that graphics are affected). So its probably not heat which is slowing you down, especially coming from the NB.

 

[pspada]

I had a similar problem on my 8RDA+ - when the nb chip got too hot, the LAN and sound got flakey. I installed a Vantec Iceberq CCB-A1C on it, and the problems went away.

 

[pspada]

Pubble Dost.

 

[grabadude]

Originally posted by: jhurst

Originally posted by: grabadude
Motherboard is Abit IS7-E Ver 1.0 (old NB fan)
Cpu P4 2.8
Ati 9800 P

Current temps:

CPU - 27 C

System - 35 C

NB - 44 C

When I play games the temp on NB comes close to 60 C. Games start to stutter, etc

No overclocked components

Please suggest something, thanx

I think you have your sensors confused. There is no way that your NB is hotter than your CPU, and there is no way in hell that your system temp is hotter than your CPU. It's prolly like this:

CPU - 44C
NB - 35C
System - 27C

The 60C reading you are getting is probably your CPU temp reading. NB's don't generate that much heat, that is why most motherboards can get away with passive cooling (no fan at all). And why people take the NB fan off (or disable it) to cut down on noise. Some motherboards don't even put a HS on the NB.

Double check and make sure you have the right diodes going to the right monitors.

I can read english just fine, that's what it says

And heat does cause system instability, including crashing and etc

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: grabadude

Originally posted by: jhurst

Originally posted by: grabadude
Motherboard is Abit IS7-E Ver 1.0 (old NB fan)
Cpu P4 2.8
Ati 9800 P

Current temps:

CPU - 27 C

System - 35 C

NB - 44 C

When I play games the temp on NB comes close to 60 C. Games start to stutter, etc

No overclocked components

Please suggest something, thanx

I think you have your sensors confused. There is no way that your NB is hotter than your CPU, and there is no way in hell that your system temp is hotter than your CPU. It's prolly like this:

CPU - 44C
NB - 35C
System - 27C

The 60C reading you are getting is probably your CPU temp reading. NB's don't generate that much heat, that is why most motherboards can get away with passive cooling (no fan at all). And why people take the NB fan off (or disable it) to cut down on noise. Some motherboards don't even put a HS on the NB.

Double check and make sure you have the right diodes going to the right monitors.

I can read english just fine, that's what it says

And heat does cause system instability, including crashing and etc

I don't think that he's disputing that heat causes problems once it hits the upper levels, but your Northbridge is not running at 44C with a CPU temp of 27C. It simply doesn't work like that.

If your CPU was at 60C and the NB at 44C then I'd be a bit more inclined to believe those readouts, but a CPU temp of 27C is almost impossible with that CPU, unless you have an expensive vapour compressor or massive watercooler attached to the CPU.

Time to re-check things.

 

[grabadude]

Apparently the bios reports diferent temperatures. Currently the cpu is at 48 C according to bios and 28 C according to Speedfan proggie

I'm confused, what is correct?

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: grabadude


I don't need to recheck anything. That's the temperature reading i got, now it's at 30 C

Tempreature is in Celsius by the way, not Fahrenheit

Compare these values to what you get in the BIOS. Because just as jhurst said, your NB will not be hotter than your CPU. I would assume that the temperature are incorrectly labeled.

And realistically, why are you being so snappy to people who are attempting to help you. Geez, people today just don't appreciate help anymore.

 

[grabadude]

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: grabadude


I don't need to recheck anything. That's the temperature reading i got, now it's at 30 C

Tempreature is in Celsius by the way, not Fahrenheit

Compare these values to what you get in the BIOS. Because just as jhurst said, your NB will not be hotter than your CPU. I would assume that the temperature are incorrectly labeled.

And realistically, why are you being so snappy to people who are attempting to help you. Geez, people today just don't appreciate help anymore.

The program i was using was showing incorrect temperatures

I guess i need to add more fans

Sorry about being snappy

 

[Davegod]

er i'd say jhurst is very likely right here, though if youre going to be obtuse about it then feel free to read it as "I think your temp reading software has your sensors confused."

the BIOS is much more likely to be correct than Speedfan. Dunno about your version of speedfan but mine just reads sensors and its up to you to figure out which temp is for what component. Generally, the hottest one will be the CPU, next hottest the northbridge, last two either of system & hard drives. also likely is a few odd temps that dont really exist, like speedfan tells me something is constantly at 39C, and something else constantly -48C. Best method though usually is to reboot into bios, check temps then load up and sort out speedfan. A utility provided by your mobo vendor usually, but certainly not always has the right sensor labels.

Try running your comp with the side door/panel off and see if that improves things.

 

[grabadude]

I installed Abit EQ utility and it shows the of 45 C (as in bios)

My fault

 

[jhurst]

When people try to help you, even if you don't agree with what they are saying, you can still say something like "yea im not sure if thats it" or "no i already checked that", not "i can read english". I understand you read english, believe me, but that doesn't mean that the program didn't have the sensors confused. And if you are reading wrong numbers, then it makes what you are saying wrong too, things just work out that way. Like they said, hottest will always be CPU, followed by your NB, and then your system temp at load. While idling, it is likely that your NB temp will only be 2-3C hotter than your system temp. When I wake up in the mornings, my NB and system temp are usually the same - 25C (CPU 36C).