need help, Is 750W enough for my new sys?

[hockees]

Hi guys , I know u r going to advice me to use the PSU calc. but I need to get an advice from u , cos u guys have more and good exp. I am building a new sys. and am planning to by the Ultra 4X 750W (PSU) , so i dont know if its enough for my new system or not , my new system is: Asus Rampage III extreme , i7 980X , ocz (vertex 2) 90g and (vertex 2) 120gb , 1 velociraptor 600g 10000rpm 32 mb cache sata 6.0gb , cooler master sniper black case , ram 12gb ddr3 PC 15000 , ultra chilltec thermal elec cooler , dvd burner , PNY gtx470 , plz any advice it would be appreciated and thnx inadvance.

 

[Rezarecter]

Hi guys , I know u r going to advice me to use the PSU calc. but I need to get an advice from u , cos u guys have more and good exp. I am building a new sys. and am planning to by the Ultra 4X 750W (PSU) , so i dont know if its enough for my new system or not , my new system is: Asus Rampage III extreme , i7 980X , ocz (vertex 2) 90g and (vertex 2) 120gb , 1 velociraptor 600g 10000rpm 32 mb cache sata 6.0gb , cooler master sniper black case , ram 12gb ddr3 PC 15000 , ultra chilltec thermal elec cooler , dvd burner , PNY gtx470 , plz any advice it would be appreciated and thnx inadvance.

an ULTRA brand 750 watt PSU, no.

a corsair/seasonic/antec/etc 600-750 watt PSU, yes.

 

[fffblackmage]

an ULTRA brand 750 watt PSU, no.
a corsair/seasonic/antec/etc 600-750 watt PSU, yes.

+1

Also, are you seriously going to buy a 980X for your comp? Assuming this is a gaming computer, I'm surprised you listed only a GTX470.

 

[hockees]

no , its not a gaming comp , am a musician , so I need the power of the cpu , ssd and the ram , so whats the reason not to buy the ultra , and whats the best one for my system !

 

[Puffnstuff]

OMG go to johnnyguru and read up on power supplies. Ultra is like the bottom of the barrel in quality.

 

[flexcore]

Yes. Do your homework. That cpu cost way to much to trust it to ultra!

Newegg has promo on Seasonic X650. Thats a quality unit.

 

[ehume]

Seasonic X650 Modular - $110
The link has the offer code.
I just bought one - my second.
JonnyGURU review of the Seasonic X-650.

 

[hockees]

but do you think 650W is enough to my system with all these parts ?

 

[ehume]

but do you think 650W is enough to my system with all these parts ?

PSU calculator

If not, Seasonic makes an X-750 as well.

 

[faxon]

Hell yea it will be fine, especially that X650, those things are about the best you can get in that wattage range, and for $110 I would jump all over it before they run out of stock lmao

 

[MagickMan]

but do you think 650W is enough to my system with all these parts ?

easily, especially that Seasonic.

 

[ehume]

but do you think 650W is enough to my system with all these parts ?

Are you going to overclock?

 

[hockees]

well I dont think so , am not going to OC , but lats say yes , so do i need to get higher than the 650W ?

 

[hockees]

well thank u guys for your help , i really appreciated , i just found the seasonic x 750w for $166 , so is this a good price to buy it instead of the 650w ?

 

[fffblackmage]

Ok... this isn't a gaming comp, so what's the GTX470 for? If it's CUDA you need, are you sure a GTX460 not sufficient?

A 650W PSU is enough, and the Seasonic X650 is a much better buy at $110. This 650W PSU is a much higher quality unit than the ULTRA 750W PSU you originally planned to get.

If you're not overclocking, you don't need a thermoelectric cooler. The stock cooler should be sufficient.

 

[ehume]

Looks like a nice price. If it is worth $56 more to you for the 100 extra watts, get it.

Hardware Secrets overload test was able to push the X650 to 794W. I was not able to find an overload test fro the x750.

But yeah, it's a good price. Newegg wants $182, shipped. Your deal is through Amazon, right? With free shipping. Jump on it.

Edit: that stock cooler on the 980x is really a pretty good cooler.

 

[hockees]

oh ok , so u think that i dont need to buy the Ultra chilltec , is the stock cooler that comes with 980x good cooler ? no problem with it ? if yes , then u let me save $100

 

[hockees]

Ok... this isn't a gaming comp, so what's the GTX470 for? If it's CUDA you need, are you sure a GTX460 not sufficient?

A 650W PSU is enough, and the Seasonic X650 is a much better buy at $110. This 650W PSU is a much higher quality unit than the ULTRA 750W PSU you originally planned to get.

If you're not overclocking, you don't need a thermoelectric cooler. The stock cooler should be sufficient.

well , i like to play only strategy games , so do u think the difference between the gtx460 and gtx470 is that much ? cos the difference between them is only $50 !

 

[jacktesterson]

I just purchased a 650w XFX black edition which is based off a seasonic 650 for $87 + shipping.

650 is lots in my opinion.

I got my 850 XFX (seasonic made) for $126+ shipping


I always go seasonic!!

 

[MobiusPizza]

PSW are overrated, unless you go crossfire

I have been using good quality Enermax 550W PSU to power:

6 HDDs, 2 SSD, 4GD DDR2 (yes, more power hungry DDR2 vs DDR3), Q6600, Radeon HD4850 (not exactly as power efficient as 5 series) , a Zalman reserator XT external watercooler! (runs on 12V power rail from PSU),

I've never had any crashes. I run my computer through a week or more sometimes.

My home power meter shows when computer is on, it draws 300W power. When gaming it draws extra 50W.

Even if I add 1 more GPU, which would consume 150W max, it should still be ok. With overclocking, I'd add 30% power budget and it should still be fine.
Also, efficiency of a PSU is best around high load.
I have no idea what people are thinking paying twice the price for say 1000W PSU. It's money down the drain to me unless they go quad crossfire of course.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Do not buy an ultra chilltec hsf. I have one and a q9550 was all it could handle. When I tried it on a 920 the tec was on all the time and the fan maxed out and that was at idle. Once you put the cpu under load you could just watch the temps soar up because it was already heatsoaked. Buy yourself a good air cooler and save the wasted energy of the chilltecs underwhelming tec.

 

[spittledip]

OMG go to johnnyguru and read up on power supplies. Ultra is like the bottom of the barrel in quality.

That is not even close to being true. I think you might want to go to JG and check out the reviews for yourself. Ultra is by no means as good as the aforementioned PSUs, but they do have some decent ones out there, including the 4x series.

 

[jacktesterson]

OMG go to johnnyguru and read up on power supplies. Ultra is like the bottom of the barrel in quality.

Ultra isnt that bad. They have some good ones and bad ones just like OCZ for example. You just have to research them to know what your getting.

You can hardly EVER go wrong with Corsair, Seasonic, XFX, Antec, etc. just because they are always made by a quality company in 95% of models. (Seasonic makes all XFX and a lot of Corsair and Antec models besides there own line)

 

[TemjinGold]

Hi guys , I know u r going to advice me to use the PSU calc. but I need to get an advice from u , cos u guys have more and good exp. I am building a new sys. and am planning to by the Ultra 4X 750W (PSU) , so i dont know if its enough for my new system or not , my new system is: Asus Rampage III extreme , i7 980X , ocz (vertex 2) 90g and (vertex 2) 120gb , 1 velociraptor 600g 10000rpm 32 mb cache sata 6.0gb , cooler master sniper black case , ram 12gb ddr3 PC 15000 , ultra chilltec thermal elec cooler , dvd burner , PNY gtx470 , plz any advice it would be appreciated and thnx inadvance.

OP: If money is important to you at all, you are spending it in all the wrong places. Since you aren't a gamer and don't plan on OCing (if you're not heavily into games and/or benchmarking, you really don't need to be OCing as all that will do is crank up your power bill), the Rampage III board, the velociraptor, the pc15000 ram, and the cooler are a HUGE waste of money.

1) For the Rampage III, you are basically paying a hefty premium for a board that can overclock well. Since overclocking really won't help you much (especially with a 980x), you can easily get away with a board that costs a lot less.

2) You already have a couple of SSDs for speed. The velociraptor is not worth it in this case. Its only advantage (much faster boot up) will be taken care of by your SSDs. I can tell you that I went from my last gen velociraptor (300gb) to a Samsung F3 1TB. Speed actually felt faster with the latter. What's more, the Sammy is much larger and only cost me $58.

3) For ram, the cheapest DDR3 that runs at 1.5v will be indistinguishable to you performance-wise compared to the fastest clocked DDR3.

4) Like many have said, the stock cooler is good.

With parts this expensive, like the 980x, the LAST place you want to skimp is the PSU because if that blows, it can take your expensive system with it. Don't skimp on the PSU and don't skimp on the case. A good case ensures you have excellent airflow whereas a bad case is just asking for trouble even if you have an expensive cooling system.

And to answer your question: A quality 650watt unit will actually reliably output MORE power than a crappy 750watt unit. Case in point: There was a crappy Diablotek 1050watt psu reviewed that literally blew up when the reviewer tried to put a 50% load on it (it couldn't handle the 525 or so watts, let alone the full rated capacity.)

The system in my sig at PEAK draws like 250watts (40 of that is my monitor, so only 210 at peak.) Yours draws more than mine but not more than 300 watts or so. Don't be fooled into needing more than a 600 watt unit if that.

 

[hockees]

OP: If money is important to you at all, you are spending it in all the wrong places. Since you aren't a gamer and don't plan on OCing (if you're not heavily into games and/or benchmarking, you really don't need to be OCing as all that will do is crank up your power bill), the Rampage III board, the velociraptor, the pc15000 ram, and the cooler are a HUGE waste of money.

1) For the Rampage III, you are basically paying a hefty premium for a board that can overclock well. Since overclocking really won't help you much (especially with a 980x), you can easily get away with a board that costs a lot less.

2) You already have a couple of SSDs for speed. The velociraptor is not worth it in this case. Its only advantage (much faster boot up) will be taken care of by your SSDs. I can tell you that I went from my last gen velociraptor (300gb) to a Samsung F3 1TB. Speed actually felt faster with the latter. What's more, the Sammy is much larger and only cost me $58.

3) For ram, the cheapest DDR3 that runs at 1.5v will be indistinguishable to you performance-wise compared to the fastest clocked DDR3.

4) Like many have said, the stock cooler is good.

With parts this expensive, like the 980x, the LAST place you want to skimp is the PSU because if that blows, it can take your expensive system with it. Don't skimp on the PSU and don't skimp on the case. A good case ensures you have excellent airflow whereas a bad case is just asking for trouble even if you have an expensive cooling system.

And to answer your question: A quality 650watt unit will actually reliably output MORE power than a crappy 750watt unit. Case in point: There was a crappy Diablotek 1050watt psu reviewed that literally blew up when the reviewer tried to put a 50% load on it (it couldn't handle the 525 or so watts, let alone the full rated capacity.)

The system in my sig at PEAK draws like 250watts (40 of that is my monitor, so only 210 at peak.) Yours draws more than mine but not more than 300 watts or so. Don't be fooled into needing more than a 600 watt unit if that.

First thnx for your info , as i said be4 , am a musician , so what i bought is the most friendly hardware (parts) if u wanna build a system for composing and arranging music , so i red a lot about the motherboards and the CPU etc , so i found the rampage III or lets say Asus the best motherboard for music (less problems) , and beside that i need a good Cpu with fast HDD's and fast ram , am not building this system to play games or show off u guys that am spending $3000 , but I really need every part to be a good brand and good quality , thats why am asking you guys cos u guys have very good exp and good info better than me and i really appreciate for your help all of you , so just like some one refer to me the (seasonic) , so i ordered the seasonic x750 gold instead of the Ultra 4X . again thnx for you guys for the info. just last question , i know its not in the right section , but the only part that i still havent order it is the Ram , so how is the G.Skill ! or any suggestion for a good brand that has less problems and has a good performance ?