Need help getting through a subnet for gaming

[Spike]

At my house we have this great fiber setup through a local provider. The costs are decent (I pay $54 for 20 down/10 up) and the uptime is great. The problem is that we are on a giant subnet so my "external" IP is actuall a 10. number. Playing games on online servers is not generally a problem but hosting or joining games on a local machine, either mine or the people I'm trying to play with, never works. This weekend my brother and I attempted to use Himachi (or however you spell that) and while we connected and could chat just fine, I could not fugure out how to get the games (UT3 and CS:S) to see each other.

So, what are my options outside of paying for a static IP? My main PC is connected via a router to a switch, then to a fiber box, then to the outside. I have setup a DMZ in the past but never could get that to help either though I did not do a DMZ and Himachi at the same time. In windows 7 Himachi shows up as a seperate network, can I somehow make that the primary network so games only see that?

Thanks for any help!

 

[drebo]

You'll have to have your ISP give you a public IP address. Right now, they're NATing you. And because you're NATing yourself, you're introducing a double NAT. Double NATs are bad, because they make things like port forwarding and VoIP and most VPN implementations unusable.

There's no other workaround.

 

[Spike]

You'll have to have your ISP give you a public IP address. Right now, they're NATing you. And because you're NATing yourself, you're introducing a double NAT. Double NATs are bad, because they make things like port forwarding and VoIP and most VPN implementations unusable.

There's no other workaround.

You say double NATs are bad yet playing games with another on a local PC is the only issue I have had. Everything else from streaming to torrents to gaming on public servers work just fine. Besides that, isn't that what Himachi is for? I thought it was designed to create basically a tunnel from one PC to another (or multiple) and act like everyone is on a LAN together. Is that not the case?

 

[imagoon]

You say double NATs are bad yet playing games with another on a local PC is the only issue I have had. Everything else from streaming to torrents to gaming on public servers work just fine. Besides that, isn't that what Himachi is for? I thought it was designed to create basically a tunnel from one PC to another (or multiple) and act like everyone is on a LAN together. Is that not the case?

How is your inside network configured? Been a while but UT3 I recall as being pretty easy to setup as a server inside. I believe (again been a long time) you can just type in the server address (or host) in to it and connect. Assuming the machines are on the same network, physically and logically they should be able to connect. I assume you can ping between hosts inside the network?

 

[JackMDS]

You have to contact the ISP and discuss with them the way ports have to be handled through thier system.me private provider do not want or care about special needs.

If this is the case you will have to look for another provider.

So

 

[Spike]

Sorry, I was out of town for a few days and forgot about this thread...

My inside network is just a basic wirless 4-port router with static local ips' for all my pc's. With and without himachi on I tried doing a direct connect with IP address in both UT3 and CS:S and had no luck. I even used both games join friends option (Cs:S through steam and UT3 through it's own) and still no luck.

I will contact my ISP and see what I can do. They are pretty friendly when I have talked to them in the past so we shall see if they can help. There are other ISP options (Comcast or DSL) but this is by far the fastest and most reliable being fiber, not to mention my entire house is wired with CAT5 coming in directly from the fiber box, something they did in all new homes up here.

 

[theevilsharpie]

I'm sure your ISP will have a solution for you. Worst-case scenario is that you pay extra for a business account with a public IP.