Need help finding faster self propelled mower

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Slickone

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I made a long reply here about my wants in a new self propelled walk behind mower, mainly faster speed than my current one, but I guess it was stuck on the end of a dead thread, so didn't get any replies.

In that thread, Thump553 said (to someone else):

Go front wheel drive-it's far easy to turn/revese in tight spots by pushing down on the handlebar rather than picking up the back wheels.
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Now I'm using a Toro (bought at Home Depot) for the last several years and am happy with it. Tescumseh engine, I think.

But I replied that I think all the Toro's I've ever seen are RWD, including the ones I recently looked at at Home Depot. But didn't get a reply.


I followed that with:

I bought a self propelled Toro in 2002, which was RWD, and I couldn't get the hang of it, so I returned it. I don't remember what kind of throttle or start/stop motion handle it had, but whatever it was, it was either too much trouble to do that every time you needed to stop to keep from running over a bush or to turn, and/or maybe the drive would never stop completely. And the front-back wheelbase was extremely long, and the whole thing was just too big and heavy to handle.

I ended up buying a Troy Built Tuff Cut 220, which is front wheel drive, so is much easier to handle. But since you don't have all the weight on the drive wheels, you lose a lot of motion going up hill or on damp grass because of wheel spin. Also, the quality control on it just sucked. A couple of the hub caps would never stay on, so had to be glued (which blocks access to the grease fittings); the deck paint started flaking off in big chunks soon after buying; the drive speed adjustment screw is very hard to turn, and doesn't seem to affect anything; the deck/wheel height adjustments are extremely hard to get to and move and their rubber caps fell off soon after buying; the decals were put on crooked and started peeling off soon after buying. Also the push handle just wore out and broke a couple years ago (the replacement I had to buy had been redesigned).

But the main reason I want to get another mower now is the self propelled speed was never fast enough and I end up having to push it myself just to go faster, when I'm in a hurry. It seems like back when I bought it, mfg's were publishing the speed, but now they don't seem to, do they? I would risk getting another RWD Toro, and certainly wouldn't mind paying the money for a Honda, if I knew they would be faster than my Troy Built. Anyone know?

Also, I think mine is 6 or 6.5 HP, but still bogs down and dies in slighly tall grass that I think better mowers/blades could probably handle.


BTW, if I used a Garmin 750 GPS set to pedestrian mode, how accurate would it show my mowing speed?
 

Greenman

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I've seen mowers with variable speed front wheel drive, but I don't remember who makes them.
 

thedarkwolf

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Thats kind of why I got rid of my self propelled for a regular old push mower. Its a hell of a lot lighter and since I can go at my own pace it get done faster.
 

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Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Thats kind of why I got rid of my self propelled for a regular old push mower. Its a hell of a lot lighter and since I can go at my own pace it get done faster.

Ya I have a Craftsman 7.0HP front wheel self propelled mower and that thing is so heavy that it is actually easier to mow with a lighter manual push mower especially if you have a smallish yard with lots of turns or hills. As far my self propelled mower it does go decently fast but turning that thing since it is so heavy is a pain. Also, since the mower is so heavy both rear wheels have cracked at the hub and now wobble big time and I am not going to replace the wheels since I am going to look for a closeout deal this fall to find a nice light weight manual push mower to replace this one.
 

thedarkwolf

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I broke both rear wheels on my self propelled mower one of them twice. I finally bought two metal wheels that were the same size to replace the plastic ones for $6 a pop and didn't have that problem anymore.
 

LTC8K6

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I have a Troy Built that has a variable speed drive. The harder you squeeze the handle, the faster it goes. It goes fast enough that it's too fast for me. Its FWD.
 

996GT2

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Originally posted by: Slickone


But the main reason I want to get another mower now is the self propelled speed was never fast enough and I end up having to push it myself just to go faster, when I'm in a hurry. It seems like back when I bought it, mfg's were publishing the speed, but now they don't seem to, do they? I would risk getting another RWD Toro, and certainly wouldn't mind paying the money for a Honda, if I knew they would be faster than my Troy Built. Anyone know?

Also, I think mine is 6 or 6.5 HP, but still bogs down and dies in slighly tall grass that I think better mowers/blades could probably handle.


BTW, if I used a Garmin 750 GPS set to pedestrian mode, how accurate would it show my mowing speed?

Should you really be mowing that quickly in the first place? We have a 6.5 HP Toro with personal pace RWD (it goes as fast as you push, no triggers to squeeze)...I find that at the fastest speed, I'm almost having to jog behind it, and at that speed longer grass doesn't get cut completely clean in some places.

It's quite easy to manuever though...just push down on the handle to lift up the front end and make the turn. I found it better than the Troy-Bilt Tuff Cut 210 we used to have, which was a pain to mow with since it had almost no traction from the front wheel drive.

Have you thought about getting a ride-on mower if you really want speed?
 

Slickone

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^ Well mine doesn't go nearly that fast, so yes I want to be mowing much faster. Mine is a slow walk. I want the option of jogging! LOL Really, just a fast walk would be fine.

I would be interested to see exactly how fast yours and LTC8K6's goes. Would a GPS not be accurate enough?

Also, mine is basically the same thing as personal pace. Just push the handle more. I'm normally pushing on the handle so hard that I'm doing a small amount of the mowers movement. But I often just grab the metal part of the handle frame and just pushing it all myself.

 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: 996GT2
Originally posted by: Slickone


But the main reason I want to get another mower now is the self propelled speed was never fast enough and I end up having to push it myself just to go faster, when I'm in a hurry. It seems like back when I bought it, mfg's were publishing the speed, but now they don't seem to, do they? I would risk getting another RWD Toro, and certainly wouldn't mind paying the money for a Honda, if I knew they would be faster than my Troy Built. Anyone know?

Also, I think mine is 6 or 6.5 HP, but still bogs down and dies in slighly tall grass that I think better mowers/blades could probably handle.


BTW, if I used a Garmin 750 GPS set to pedestrian mode, how accurate would it show my mowing speed?

Should you really be mowing that quickly in the first place? We have a 6.5 HP Toro with personal pace RWD (it goes as fast as you push, no triggers to squeeze)...I find that at the fastest speed, I'm almost having to jog behind it, and at that speed longer grass doesn't get cut completely clean in some places.

It's quite easy to manuever though...just push down on the handle to lift up the front end and make the turn. I found it better than the Troy-Bilt Tuff Cut 210 we used to have, which was a pain to mow with since it had almost no traction from the front wheel drive.

Have you thought about getting a ride-on mower if you really want speed?

I have the same mower. I have issues with it stalling out on medium height grass even at the highest deck level. It diesels like an MFer too.
 
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