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need help buying camera-- question on ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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jcballer1

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what camera has the highest zoom rating?

I found the pentax zoom 200mm.... is this any good?

are there any better ones? or a higher zoom rating??


 
I'm going to assume you're referring to 35mm P&S cameras.

Zoom lenses on these cameras are not very good.

When you've got that zoom racked way out, the lens is slow (apertures of 8 or higher) and will throw the background into focus instead of the subject.
 
this pentax is a 35mm camera...


but the point is i need a really deep zoom (like 200mm)... i'm not sure if it's available in APS or another faster form ????


thanks for the help so far.
 
Are you buying a point and shoot or a SLR? I am not familar with P AND S but I could help you with SLR. Usually if you are going to buy a lens that you can mount on your camera, that is best way. Dont buy a lens that has like a huge range, your pictures will turn out with less quality.
 
this is not ans SLR camera... what exactly is an SLR camera ??

this camera is specifically for taking pictures during a concert event. It's a U2 concert, so I would assume that it should be able to take clear pictures in low light conditions and yet be able to zoom in for clear focused pictures ...


any other camera recc just for this purpose ??? how do digital cameras do here? i think they dont zoom in far enough? is this true?



thanks again guys
 
A digital camera will not produce very clear pictures if zoomed in very far, especially with low light and lots of movement. This is just me talking from personal experience.

I dont know much about point and shoot cameras, sorry.

SLR (Single-Lens Reflex) is any camera with a body, and detachable lenses that can be replaced.


Edit: Yes there is a big difference between 80 and 200mm
Edit2: How are you bringing a camera into a concert?
 
If you aren't in the front row (or thereabouts), you are going to find it impossible to hold the camera steady enough to take pictures with a big zoom lens.
 
A point and shoot is not the camera for taking pictures at a concert, the lenses are to slow to expect to take good pictures, you pretty much need a SLR for this. Lenses are listed like 80-200f4.5-5.6 . The smaller the F-number the faster the lenses, and most zooms have a variable F-number, Faster at the short end and slower at the long end. I belive the pentax camera your talking about has an f-numer at the long end like13, very slow esp. indoors. It mainly comes down to budget, Inexpensive Zooms start about $100 and new autofocus Cameras Start about$200. I have seen a Canon rebel X with 35-50 and 80-200zooms for less then $300 at walmart, but I haven't looked lately. hope this helps todd
 
they allow camera's at most concerts (they say they don't on the tickets... but its really allowed)

so---i should try to get the CANON Rebel 80-200 SLR camera at walmart ????????



thanks again guys!
 
If you're considering getting a Canon Rebel, then consider getting the EOS so that you'll have more focus points. Also keep in mind that if it comes with an 80-200 zoom lens that you will probably not be completely satisfied until you've bought a smaller lens as well. Then there's the flash. You'll have to buy it separately and make sure that it has the capability for the distance. You can get some nice flashes that'll do the job at decent prices at places like Ritz Cameras. I'd recommend a Vivitar.
 


<< so---i should try to get the CANON Rebel 80-200 SLR camera at walmart >>



Good body, especially considering how dirt cheap they are. At the prices they sell them for, there really isn't much reason to buy expensive p/s cameras anymore.
 
The body is ok yes, but the lenses are terrible. I cannot stand Canon lenses. I use Nikon lenses exclusivly, just because they own. They produce the clearest pictures and the sharpest detail.

However it is pricey as anything, so perhaps the Canon rebel is the way to go. If you have no other interest in photography, its a good kick around camera. Make sure you get a telephoto lens (like 75-200mm) with a big apeture range. If not, it will be horribly dark. You might even want to invest in a flash, besides the onboard flash.

Make sure you use 1600 speed film too (or 800, 1600 is better imo) so you get the most out of your light.
 
Just a note about the flash, if you are more than a few feet away it will not have any effect. If you are far enough away that the band won't be blinded, it won't help you. And if you are that close, they'll probably grab it from you. The primary reason they say "no cameras" is so the band isn't bothered by the flashes going off.
 


<< Just a note about the flash, if you are more than a few feet away it will not have any effect. If you are far enough away that the band won't be blinded, it won't help you. And if you are that close, they'll probably grab it from you. The primary reason they say "no cameras" is so the band isn't bothered by the flashes going off. >>




Good point, however I just want to let him know that his pics wont come out if he is too far away..
 
If you got the $, I would say you won't go wrong with the canon. There 3 breeds of Rebal the x, g, 2000 the x being the oldest and cheapest and the 2000 being newest and most expensive. Also get your self some fast film 800iso or even 1600iso that may make you life easier also. later todd
 


<< SLR cameras at walmart.com

these are the only 3 SLR cameras they have here.
The 80-200 lens is not listed on their website---perhaps it is sold in their stores ???

I think a stronger flash would be a great idea.

Thanks. >>



You wont see a SLR package with a telephoto lens. You will get a base macro 35-80 lens on most. My Nikon came with a 28-80, but thats pretty rare, and such a badass lens btw. Go to your local camera shop, you can always find used lenses for like dirt cheap. At least here you can.
 
Check the stores, I have seen all three rebel models, a Nkon N65, the minolta qtsi, and pentax zx-50, and I known I saw the 80-200 zoom for at least the canon and minolta. You wouldn't go wrong with any of these listed. later
 
Damn these digital camera threads they make me wanna blow $300 on a new digital camera, just for the heck of it.

Wonder if that Fuji deal at HSN.com is still available, hmmn.
 
ok, i'll shop around for the 80-200mm lens for the

Canon EOS Rebel G 35 mm

which i will pickup from walmart tomorrow.


 

You can get an excellent lens @ 28~200mm F/3.8-5.6 from Sigma for less than $300.00 USD (a great brand that built zooms lens for Contact/Zeiss) if you don't do too many print over 8X10. The Quality of this type of zoom range drastically drop when enlarge much greater than 5x7 (most people don't do more than 10 prints @ 8x10 in their life time).

Personally I would get the Sigma 28~105mm @ F/3.8-5.6 for $110.00 USD if I was looking for light weight, because this optic quality rivall the quality of a Zeiss, Canon & Nikon (it quality is almost as good as my $300.00 Canon Ultrasonic II 28~105mm @ F/3.5~4.5 accept my Canon is one stop faster and is slightly heavier @ larger).

If you don't mind the weight or slightly shorter but usefull range then go for the beautifully crafted Sigma 28-70mm F/2.8 EX D lens for $300.00, or the Sigma 28-70mm F/2.8 EX @ $200.00. The image quality of these lens is just as good as Nikkor D or Canon L pro lenses, but it is slightly lower in quality mechanicaly ( what do you expect when the others cost over a $1000.00 USD).

Better yet is to get a fix lenght 50mm F/1.4 or F/1.8 lens @ less than $100.00 for those time that you need the quality & low light situations. And, pair it with a nice light weight 28~105mm or 28~200mm or 28~300mm @ less than $200.00. The next best lens you can get is a fix length 20mm or 24mm. Then arm yourself with a 100mm 1:1 Macro for the tantalizing micro world and portraitures. After that you can go nuts and get a 400mm or 500mm for those rare time that you can get close enought to hunt a doe or shooting a grisly while hanging on for your dear life atop a tree. If you have money and time to waste then get a 1000mm to 4000mm to look for UFO or shooting stars.


 
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