Need feed back + CPU MoBo recommendations

g0forkurself

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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Gaming, photo and possibly video editing.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
$1800 but I have a lot of parts already purchased so I'm just looking for a CPU and MoBo recommendation that is efficient, higher end and will last at least 5 years.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
USA
4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.
Intel, nVidia, Asus/Asrock
5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Looking for CPU, Motherboard recommendations mainly but PSU can be returned and exchanged at recommendations.

Currently already have:
-Corsair Vengeance RAM (2x 4GB)
-Geforce GTX670
-NZXT Phantom Full tower case
-COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
-Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM Internal HD (might consider -installing a SSD at a later date)
-LITE-ON DVD Burner
-Corsair HX1050 PSU (unopened, can be returned)
-2x ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor


7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Default speeds for now.

8. What resolution will you be using?
1920x1080
9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Note that it is usually not cost or time effective to choose your build more than a month before you actually plan to be using it.
As soon as possible.
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X. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software?

No.

Thanks in advance for reading!
 
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azeem40

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You've overspent on that PSU. Two 670s don't use anywhere close to that power. Get a 750W PSU like the TX750 V2, OCZ ZT 750W, XFX PRO750W, etc.

Get the Hyper 212 EVO for $5 more.

What is the total so far (minus the PSU)?
 

lehtv

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I would return the unopened HX1050 unless you have to pay a lot for shipping. GTX 670 SLI and a 22nm CPU are more than fine on a 650W-750W unit. The rest of your build looks good.

CPU i5-3570K $230
Mobo Asrock Z77 Extreme4 $135
PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK II 750W $90 ($70 AR) 7 year warranty, 80+ silver just like the HX series

I hope your Corsair Vengeance is the low profile version, as the standard Vengeance fins interefere with 212+.
 
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g0forkurself

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Oops, I do have the 212 EVO.

Yeah, I just heard from some (probably unreliable) sources that 670 requires 750W with nice head room so I opted for the 1050.

I think I'm at about $1100-1200 right now so I have excess for CPU and MoBo. Ideally I would like higher ends on both parts and am willing to spend up to $400 for the CPU and maybe 250 or so on the mobo? Also I would like to build an ivybridge if that helps narrow things down?
 

g0forkurself

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I would return the unopened HX1050 unless you have to pay a lot for shipping. GTX 670 SLI and a 22nm CPU are more than fine on a 650W-750W unit. The rest of your build looks good.

CPU i5-3570K $230
Mobo Asrock Z77 Extreme4 $135
PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK II 750W $90 ($70 AR) 7 year warranty, 80+ silver just like the HX series

I hope your Corsair Vengeance is the low profile version, as the standard Vengeance fins interefere with 212+.

I have the regular vengeance fins D: Should I purchase a different CPU heat sink then...?

also I would like to stay with the i7 CPU, if you have a recommendation? Unless you have a specific reason for going with the i5 rather than i7?
 
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lehtv

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Most heatsinks will be incompatible with the tall Vengeance fins, I think you'd be better off purchasing different RAM than a different heatsink. E.g this or this

An intel i7 isn't really useful for gaming since there are very few games that take advantage of hyperthreading. Battlefield 3 is one, if that's a big title for you then I'd recommend the i7. But for almost everyone it's a better idea to get a 3570K and save the money on other components or future purchases. By the time 3570K is slow for gaming, 3770K will be as well (and it's going to be sooner than 5 years from now).
 

g0forkurself

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Most heatsinks will be incompatible with the tall Vengeance fins, I think you'd be better off purchasing different RAM than a different heatsink. E.g this or this

An intel i7 isn't really useful for gaming since there are very few games that take advantage of hyperthreading. Battlefield 3 is one, if that's a big title for you then I'd recommend the i7. But for almost everyone it's a better idea to get a 3570K and save the money on other components or future purchases. By the time 3570K is slow for gaming, 3770K will be as well (and it's going to be sooner than 5 years from now).

I currently already have the vengeance cards and the cooler master EVO 212 (bought them a while back on sale so they are non-returnable). I have read that the cooler master 212 EVO will fit over the DIMMs if I raise the fan a little, can anyone confirm? If not, are there any asus mobos out there that provides more spacing between the CPU slot and the DIMM slots? Also, I read that the i5 ivy bridge will produce more heat, will the 212 EVO be sufficient in terms of cooling?
 
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mfenn

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I guess it depends on your definition of "a little". I have the original style Ripjaws with very short fins and I have to raise the fan by a centimeter or two. The Vengeance would end up with like 1/4 of the fan off the heatsink!

Can you return the RAM? If not, RAM is cheap as hell, spend $50 on some of this Sammy RAM.
 

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I think I'm at about $1100-1200 right now so I have excess for CPU and MoBo. Ideally I would like higher ends on both parts and am willing to spend up to $400 for the CPU and maybe 250 or so on the mobo? Also I would like to build an ivybridge if that helps narrow things down?

OK, so you are willing to spend that much. But what makes you think that you will get any benefit from spending that much?

I could maybe kinds sorta see a justification for a $350 i7 3770K if you were going to be spending a lot of time doing video editing, but really spending more than $250 and $150 on a gaming CPU and mobo respectively is just money down the drain. You be far better off overall spending those savings on an SSD like the M4 128GB.
 

g0forkurself

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OK, so you are willing to spend that much. But what makes you think that you will get any benefit from spending that much?

I could maybe kinds sorta see a justification for a $350 i7 3770K if you were going to be spending a lot of time doing video editing, but really spending more than $250 and $150 on a gaming CPU and mobo respectively is just money down the drain. You be far better off overall spending those savings on an SSD like the M4 128GB.

Yeah, I was thinking of the i7 for the video editing but other than that this is the first time I will be building my own desktop so I really don't have much experience with it. I was also thinking, a mobo with more USB 3.0 will also be better for transferring mass amounts of data, no? But I do appreciate your feed back. And I guess I can get new RAM, now I'd just have to find a way to sell my old ones I guess D:
 

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As lethv said, that PSU is SERIOUS overkill for your system, especially since you're only running 1 670 but you already have it so oh well.

The i7 is really only justifiable if you spend a decent amount of time video editing, otherwise the 3570K should be sufficient for just occasional editing tasks.

USB 3.0 is great but why would you need multiple ports? Do you intend to move massive amounts of files off different devices simultaneously? Not to mention that I don't know of any actual standard consumer drives that need anything beyond USB 2.0 as they can't even transfer data at the max rate of USB 2.0's bandwidth. Tacking on USB 3.0 ready/compatible is basically just a marketing gimmick for most external storage devices. There are also better ways of storing and keeping large amounts of data (like an NAS box) with the amount of money you're prepared to throw down just for your CPU and motherboard.

You could also just keep the RAM btw, maybe you'll put together another system that can use them, or just keep them around as back-up. RAM is cheap currently so you wouldn't get that much from selling it second-hand.
 

g0forkurself

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Okay, I think I will go with the i5 and get the extreme4 mobo and get new lower profile ram cards. Thanks for the input guys.
 

mfenn

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USB 3.0 is great but why would you need multiple ports? Do you intend to move massive amounts of files off different devices simultaneously? Not to mention that I don't know of any actual standard consumer drives that need anything beyond USB 2.0 as they can't even transfer data at the max rate of USB 2.0's bandwidth. Tacking on USB 3.0 ready/compatible is basically just a marketing gimmick for most external storage devices. There are also better ways of storing and keeping large amounts of data (like an NAS box) with the amount of money you're prepared to throw down just for your CPU and motherboard..

I agree that you're extremely unlikely to need more than the standard 2+2 USB 3.0 ports, but to say that there's no benefit to USB 3.0 is just plain wrong.

USB 2.0 has a maximum theoretical throughput of 480Mb/s. Real world sustained is 35MB/s if you're lucky. With modern hard drives easily being able to do 100MB/s+, you'll get a definite benefit from USB 3.0 storage devices and ports.