Need anti-war bands

[FoBoT]

Jackyl?

http://www.jackyl.com/

 

[StinkyMojo]

I know OP mentioned SOAD, but check out Serj Tankian's solo album entitled Elect the Dead. The first two songs (The Unthinking Majority and Empty Walls) are great.

 

[JS80]

Neville Chamberlain

 

[Duddy]

Originally posted by: Special K
Linkin Park has a song on their Minutes to Midnight album called "Hands Held High".

That's my favorite Anti-War song!

 

[BoomerD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdeCxJmcAo

 

[CraKaJaX]

RATM?

 

[SampSon]

Bad Religion

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: JS80
Neville Chamberlain

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Would you rather them cross over the Atlantic as you suggested. You take the war to them or else they bring the war to you.

You're absolutely correct. And in fact, we did take the war to them, back on October 7th, 2001, when we invaded Afghanistan to hunt down al-Qaeda. Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11 or al-Qaeda...wait, correction, Iraq had nothing to do with al-Qaeda before we invaded. Now it's a terrorist recruitment center, training facility, and shooting gallery, all in one convenient package. al-Qaeda has their fun; Iraqis and Americans pay the price.

The best course of action is sanctians against Saudi Arabia since their "government mandated religion" is wahabism as were 3/4 of the 9-11 terrorists Saudi nationals.

Just because they recruited 15 Saudis doesn't mean you can draw some silly conclusion to condemn a nation of 25 million people. If I recruited 15 KKK members for a hate crime, can we condemn the population of an entire city, state, or country for my actions?

There isn't a grand conspiracy regarding oil. The Middle East wants to sell, and we want to buy. Believe it or not, trade between nations has succeeded without the need for war, occupations, or sanctions.

Your own argument mitigated what you were saying; we don't need war to get oil, hence not fighting a war to get oil.

GG

 

[BoomerD]

http://members.tripod.com/ffhiker/index-3.html

 

[JulesMaximus]

The best music written in the last 50 years has been anti-war music. :thumbsup:

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
If you look you will see that WMD's were only part of the reason, albeit a big one.

Pre-invasion, WMDs were the only reason given to Congress (and the U.N.) to grant Bush the authorization to invade Iraq. The "other reasons" for war got more and more air time with every passing week that we failed to uncover WMDs on Iraqi soil.

Really? I'd say the opposite is true.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: TehMac
Really? I'd say the opposite is true.

Really? I'd say you're dead wrong.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I agree the war shouldn't have been started, but it needs to be finished out.

What needs to be "finished out"?

We went in to get rid of those damned WMDs, and by golly, Iraq is 100% certified to be WMD free.

I'm not going to go too deep into this because it would end up derailing the thread and/or getting it moved to P/N. But I just finished a paper for Critical Thinking (and we weren't supposed to take sides) on "Was the war in Iraq justified?"

If you have a few minutes google "iraq war reasons" (or something like that) and you will come up with all kinds of speeches that were given outlining the reasons. If you look you will see that WMD's were only part of the reason, albeit a big one.

I'm against war unless it's a last resort, and I'm a veteran. I don't know why this list is being composed because the OP didn't state a reason, but it really chaps my hide when soldiers are fighting for us and these subjects come up.

I get the whole "Support the troops, but not the war" mentality, but in the end the troops get the short end of the stick.

/sorry for the minor derail, I just have many friends that are currently in country(s) and this bothers me on a personal level. Should have kept my mouth shut, the OP is doing what the soldiers are fighting for, free speech and all...

Please...:roll: The war in Iraq is not about free speech or the freedom of our country. We aren't fighting for our freedom. We are fighting for a bunch of lies...and we have no possibility of winning this fight either. Iraq is a mess...it was a mess before and it's an even bigger mess now...and pulling out will probably just create complete chaos. Yeah, GW has a legacy to be proud of here...:|

I sympathize with those who serve in our military and I have a great deal of respect for them as well...but I do not in any way support this war.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: TehMac
Really? I'd say the opposite is true.

Really? I'd say you're dead wrong.

heh-heh...that's pretty nicely done.

 

[pontifex]

phil ochs

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: TehMac
Really? I'd say the opposite is true.

Really? I'd say you're dead wrong.

I like how you choose a bunch of manipulated clips from a youtube show and try to pass that off as proof. Sorry, but I find your likewise manipulated opinion, like the juveniles who share it with you, invalid.

 

[waffleironhead]

Bad Religion

atheist peace

let them eat war

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

The War in Iraq or just War in general? If War in general, try The Exploited.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: TehMac
I like how you choose a bunch of manipulated clips from a youtube show and try to pass that off as proof.

What was manipulated? Unless they manipulated the exact phrases coming out of the mouths of Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice, I'm not sure what you're implying?

Would you be happier if I skipped the video altogether and just posted transcripts from their speeches and press conferences? Or would those be manipulated as well?

EDIT: Here you go. You're dead wrong, yet again.

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney August 26, 2002

Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
George W. Bush September 12, 2002

If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
Ari Fleischer December 2, 2002

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Ari Fleischer January 9, 2003

Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.
George W. Bush January 28, 2003

We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
Colin Powell February 5, 2003

We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.
George Bush February 8, 2003

So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? I think our judgment has to be clearly not.
Colin Powell March 8, 2003

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
George Bush March 18, 2003

Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.
Ari Fleisher March 21, 2003

We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad.
Donald Rumsfeld March 30, 2003

I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found.
Ari Fleischer April 10, 2003

We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.
George Bush April 24, 2003

There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld April 25, 2003

We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.
George Bush May 3, 2003

I am confident that we will find evidence that makes it clear he had weapons of mass destruction.
Colin Powell May 4, 2003

I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.
George W. Bush May 6, 2003

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: TehMac
Really? I'd say the opposite is true.

Really? I'd say you're dead wrong.

I like how you choose a bunch of manipulated clips from a youtube show and try to pass that off as proof. Sorry, but I find your likewise manipulated opinion, like the juveniles who share it with you, invalid.

Yeah it's just clips of the administration contradicting itself on numerous occasions, nothing to see here :roll:

 

[Obsoleet]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
I'm against war unless it's a last resort, and I'm a veteran. I don't know why this list is being composed because the OP didn't state a reason, but it really chaps my hide when soldiers are fighting for us and these subjects come up.

I get the whole "Support the troops, but not the war" mentality, but in the end the troops get the short end of the stick.

I'm compiling a list for different antiwar projects.

The troops are getting the short end of the stick from us abusing our military like this. When a real defensive battle comes to America, we're going to be so demoralized from these needless wars that we might not see a real threat coming.

I have a cousin in Iraq right now. I have a lifelong friend being shipped to Afghanistan on the 17th. His sister, a West Point graduate supports stopping the war. I have another lifelong friend in danger of being pulled out of the university at any moment.
None of my friends support the war that are in the service. They all support, and if they've had the chance, have voted for Ron Paul.

The troops don't support this war. Check the 4Q Federal Election Commision numbers who the troops are supporting. It's none of the warmongers.
It's wrong to say that bringing things up like this is wrong, when the majority of troops themselves, and any retired general comes out against the war.
We don't need anymore armchair generals! Listen to the soldiers.

Here is all branches combined from the Republican side.

Total Military Member Donations:
Ron Paul - 931
McCain - 466
Romney - 125
Huckabee - 141

Total Military Member Donations to McCain, Romney and Huckabee Donations Combined: 732

Originally posted by: Nitemare
The best course of action is sanctians against Saudi Arabia since their "government mandated religion" is wahabism as were 3/4 of the 9-11 terrorists Saudi nationals

While I don't know all Saudi's... I have many close Saudi friends from my old university.. and they are all against extremism and murder. This just goes to show how little Americans really know about the middle east, and why invading with such paltry knowledge (or choosing to ignore the facts) is dangerous and why we are less safe. "THEY" are not our enemy.

It's a scary thought that so many Americans think what we're doing is ok. Pre-emptive war? What is that, get that before they get us mentality?
It's now in the world's best interest to pre-empt us, who knows who we invade next. Pre-emptive war is the kind of radical rhetoric that lots of people have accepted without giving it proper thought. How about we just DEFEND (which would include getting Al-Qaeda, the real enemy) instead of let nutjobs like Bush "preempt" anyone he wants. Besides, it's being misused. We're not acting in our national security interests.. reject that idea? Look at our open borders, how much easier would it be to check who's coming in and out there instead of Iraq's borders.. nuff said.
Bush and all the supporters of his policy to keep America have safe because he failed to get Bin Laden. He's an utter failure in the war on Al-Qaeda, oh wait, terror.. which most of us thought was a tactic not a nation...

Anyway I didnt intend to help this along to becoming politically charged. I am simply looking for music junkies who know their antiwar music so I can compile a list.. but I thought it was necessary I respond to a few charges here.

Thanks for the music suggestions and keep em coming if you have anymore!

 

[Phokus]

Good post Obsoleet... and if you take Democratic donations into account, the amount of support to anti-war candidates from military personnel is staggering.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Obsoleet
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Originally posted by: Nitemare
The best course of action is sanctians against Saudi Arabia since their "government mandated religion" is wahabism as were 3/4 of the 9-11 terrorists Saudi nationals

While I don't know all Saudi's... I have many close Saudi friends from my old university.. and they are all against extremism and murder. This just goes to show how little Americans really know about the middle east, and why invading with such paltry knowledge (or choosing to ignore the facts) is dangerous and why we are less safe. "THEY" are not our enemy.

It's a scary thought that so many Americans think what we're doing is ok. Pre-emptive war? What is that, get that before they get us mentality?
It's now in the world's best interest to pre-empt us, who knows who we invade next. Pre-emptive war is the kind of radical rhetoric that lots of people have accepted without giving it proper thought. How about we just DEFEND (which would include getting Al-Qaeda, the real enemy) instead of let nutjobs like Bush "preempt" anyone he wants. Besides, it's being misused. We're not acting in our national security interests.. reject that idea? Look at our open borders, how much easier would it be to check who's coming in and out there instead of Iraq's borders.. nuff said.
Bush and all the supporters of his policy to keep America have safe because he failed to get Bin Laden. He's an utter failure in the war on Al-Qaeda, oh wait, terror.. which most of us thought was a tactic not a nation...

Anyway I didnt intend to help this along to becoming politically charged. I am simply looking for music junkies who know their antiwar music so I can compile a list.. but I thought it was necessary I respond to a few charges here.

Thanks for the music suggestions and keep em coming if you have anymore!

I stated fact, you refuted with your personal opinion

Anyways, just contributing to the thread
Edwin Starr - War

And have you got a link to the military distribution that you posted?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Obsoleet
[

Originally posted by: Nitemare
The best course of action is sanctians against Saudi Arabia since their "government mandated religion" is wahabism as were 3/4 of the 9-11 terrorists Saudi nationals

While I don't know all Saudi's... I have many close Saudi friends from my old university.. and they are all against extremism and murder. This just goes to show how little Americans really know about the middle east, and why invading with such paltry knowledge (or choosing to ignore the facts) is dangerous and why we are less safe. "THEY" are not our enemy.

It's a scary thought that so many Americans think what we're doing is ok. Pre-emptive war? What is that, get that before they get us mentality?
It's now in the world's best interest to pre-empt us, who knows who we invade next. Pre-emptive war is the kind of radical rhetoric that lots of people have accepted without giving it proper thought. How about we just DEFEND (which would include getting Al-Qaeda, the real enemy) instead of let nutjobs like Bush "preempt" anyone he wants. Besides, it's being misused. We're not acting in our national security interests.. reject that idea? Look at our open borders, how much easier would it be to check who's coming in and out there instead of Iraq's borders.. nuff said.
Bush and all the supporters of his policy to keep America have safe because he failed to get Bin Laden. He's an utter failure in the war on Al-Qaeda, oh wait, terror.. which most of us thought was a tactic not a nation...

Anyway I didnt intend to help this along to becoming politically charged. I am simply looking for music junkies who know their antiwar music so I can compile a list.. but I thought it was necessary I respond to a few charges here.

Thanks for the music suggestions and keep em coming if you have anymore!

I stated fact, you refuted with your personal opinion

Anyways, just contributing to the thread
Edwin Starr - War

And have you got a link to the military distribution that you posted?

http://hopingforchange.wordpre...y-troops-and-veterans/

This is from 4th quarter donations. Ron Paul blows everyone else out of the water. $131,078.33. Second most is to McCain at 42,354.00. It's not even close.