Need advices for OUTRAGEOUS traffic tickets

[render]

I got two tickets for nothing. This is what happened.

I was pulling out my car from a parking spot and there was a police car making a u-turn, so I stopped right away and it was not that close.

The officer who was in the car, while making a u-turn, yelled at me, " Where the fvck do you go?"

That happed right before a traffic light. The police car stopped at the red light and I was right behind. I was calm but my wife was angry about what the officer said. We were talking and she was raising her hands. I think the policeman saw her actions. ( It's not fvck-you sign anyway)

There was another police car parked at the corner of the traffic. The light turned green and the police car moved forward so I made a right turn.

However, two police cars followed right after me and made me pull over. They gave me two tickets. WTF.

one is for improper passing ( when did I pass the police car?)
the other one is for some blocking emergency vehicle $hit. (emergency for making a u-turn?)

I saw one policeman looking up a small book. I think they were trying to find some reasons to give me tickets. (they spent 15 minutes)

I'm going to the court. Do you think I need a lawyer??

EDIT: spelling correction.

 

[amnesiac]

You might be able to fight it off by yourself but a lawyer would definitely help in this case.

I hate police officers, mainly because 90% of them are jackasses and should be in the military instead of the streets.

 

[res1bhmg]

Rule #1: Always go to court, even if you know you're guilty.
Rule #2: Find your state laws regarding setting up a court appearance. Don't ask city officials because they'll try to make the appearance as conveniant for them as possible. Your job, once you find the rules, is to make the court appearance as far in the future as possible. If you can fix a court date near to a major holiday, do so. Police officers have very few holidays, and they hate spending them in court.

Basically, if the officer who wrote you up doesn't show, your fines are dropped. Also, if the officer cannot remember key details about the stop, the traffic judge will usually drop the fines. Scheduling the court date far into the future strengthens your chances for both happening.

 

[goodoptics]

<< I was pulling out my car from a parking spot and there was a police car making u-turn, so I stopped right away and it was not that close. >>

Sorry, I can't imagine how close your car and the cop car come to. Can you kinda draw that out on a figure? Did you almost hit him?

<< the other one is for some blocking emergence vehicle $hit. (emergence for making u-turn?) >>
I assume you meant emergency vehicle. Was his beacon/siren on? If neither were on, he wasn't in an emergency situation then.

I say go to court and fight both tickets.

 

[render]

His beacon was on while he's making u-turn but it was off right after he made the turn.

Sorry, I can't imagine how close your car and the cop car come to.

There was enough space between the cars, like 5 feet.

 

[kt]

So, basically.. he turned on his siren just so he could make a U-turn? Then how is that an emergency? For sure he's not on his way to a crime scene or chasing someone since he had the time to stop you and gave you a ticket. I say fight the bastard..

 

Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
I hate police officers, mainly because 90% of them are jackasses and should be in the military instead of the streets.

Ignorance at its best ladies and gentelmen!

 

[goodoptics]

From your words, I'd say that the two tickets given to you were without merits. How were you improper passing when all you were doing was pulling out from a parking spot (i assumed parallel parking)?

<< His beacon was on while he's making u-turn but it was off right after he made the turn. >>
He obviously wasn't in an emergency situation then. He fvcking lied :|.

I'd say fight them in court. Just calmly and repectfully tell the judge the truth that if the damn cop didn't use his beacon as an excuse for his sole convenience to make a u-turn when it was a red light (i'm assuming it was), the whole situation could have been avoided. Also, try convincing the judge that he wasn't heading towards an emergency.

Good luck.

 

[Valinos]

Originally posted by: res1bhmg
Rule #1: Always go to court, even if you know you're guilty.
Rule #2: Find your state laws regarding setting up a court appearance. Don't ask city officials because they'll try to make the appearance as conveniant for them as possible. Your job, once you find the rules, is to make the court appearance as far in the future as possible. If you can fix a court date near to a major holiday, do so. Police officers have very few holidays, and they hate spending them in court.

Basically, if the officer who wrote you up doesn't show, your fines are dropped. Also, if the officer cannot remember key details about the stop, the traffic judge will usually drop the fines. Scheduling the court date far into the future strengthens your chances for both happening.

Good advice, I'll have to remember that next time I get a ticket

It's been a couple years now...I'm gonna end up jinxing myself...lol

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Need advices for OUTRAGEOUS traffic tickets

Don't get them.

nik

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Need advices for OUTRAGEOUS traffic tickets

Don't get them.

nik

Someone's stealing Yakko's job...

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Fight it.

 

[jackpot]

Originally posted by: OmegaNauce

Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
I hate police officers, mainly because 90% of them are jackasses and should be in the military instead of the streets.

Ignorance at its best ladies and gentelmen!

or personal experience...

 

[Killbat]

Originally posted by: jackpot

Originally posted by: OmegaNauce

Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
I hate police officers, mainly because 90% of them are jackasses and should be in the military instead of the streets.

Ignorance at its best ladies and gentelmen!

or personal experience...

You've personally interacted with 90% of police officers?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: res1bhmg
Rule #1: Always go to court, even if you know you're guilty.
Rule #2: Find your state laws regarding setting up a court appearance. Don't ask city officials because they'll try to make the appearance as conveniant for them as possible. Your job, once you find the rules, is to make the court appearance as far in the future as possible. If you can fix a court date near to a major holiday, do so. Police officers have very few holidays, and they hate spending them in court.

Basically, if the officer who wrote you up doesn't show, your fines are dropped. Also, if the officer cannot remember key details about the stop, the traffic judge will usually drop the fines. Scheduling the court date far into the future strengthens your chances for both happening.

I got a ticket, cop didnt show in court, the judge just rescheduled.

 

[philmacrevis]

Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
You might be able to fight it off by yourself but a lawyer would definitely help in this case.

I hate police officers, mainly because 90% of them are jackasses and should be in the military instead of the streets.

This is the exact reason why I didn't join the force. The people you are trying to protect, hate you. When your house, car, apt, or whatever gets broken into and/or stolen, keep it to yourself and don't call the police.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: res1bhmg
Your job, once you find the rules, is to make the court appearance as far in the future as possible. If you can fix a court date near to a major holiday, do so. Police officers have very few holidays, and they hate spending them in court.

not in NY.... cops get paid to go to court... .it's considered part of their job.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: res1bhmg
Rule #1: Always go to court, even if you know you're guilty.
Rule #2: Find your state laws regarding setting up a court appearance. Don't ask city officials because they'll try to make the appearance as conveniant for them as possible. Your job, once you find the rules, is to make the court appearance as far in the future as possible. If you can fix a court date near to a major holiday, do so. Police officers have very few holidays, and they hate spending them in court.

Basically, if the officer who wrote you up doesn't show, your fines are dropped. Also, if the officer cannot remember key details about the stop, the traffic judge will usually drop the fines. Scheduling the court date far into the future strengthens your chances for both happening.

I got a ticket, cop didnt show in court, the judge just rescheduled.

This is because, AFAIK, the law that the officer must show up in court is only in Oregon. That law however, is directly from the US Constitution in which the accused is guaranteed their right to face their accuser in court. In other states, you have the right to subpeona the police officer. Do so.
The secret of fighting a traffic ticket? Make it as incovenient for the police and the court system as possible. They're hoping that you'll just roll over and mail in the fine. Don't. Fight the ticket, push the court date as far back as you can, go to court, subpoena the ticketing officer and force him to be there in the court room, etc.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

dont expect the truth also if the cop appears at court. A cop gave my friend 2 tickets for running red lights becuase he though my friend had been drinking and he told the cop he was at a bar, even though he passed the sobriety tests. When my friend went to court the cop made up an elaborate story and even though my friend had a witness, a passanger, the court still ruled in favor of the cop

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: PSYWVic

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: res1bhmg
Rule #1: Always go to court, even if you know you're guilty.
Rule #2: Find your state laws regarding setting up a court appearance. Don't ask city officials because they'll try to make the appearance as conveniant for them as possible. Your job, once you find the rules, is to make the court appearance as far in the future as possible. If you can fix a court date near to a major holiday, do so. Police officers have very few holidays, and they hate spending them in court.

Basically, if the officer who wrote you up doesn't show, your fines are dropped. Also, if the officer cannot remember key details about the stop, the traffic judge will usually drop the fines. Scheduling the court date far into the future strengthens your chances for both happening.

I got a ticket, cop didnt show in court, the judge just rescheduled.

This is because, AFAIK, the law that the officer must show up in court is only in Oregon. That law however, is directly from the US Constitution in which the accused is guaranteed their right to face their accuser in court. In other states, you have the right to subpeona the police officer. Do so.
The secret of fighting a traffic ticket? Make it as incovenient for the police and the court system as possible. They're hoping that you'll just roll over and mail in the fine. Don't. Fight the ticket, push the court date as far back as you can, go to court, subpoena the ticketing officer and force him to be there in the court room, etc.

In every state the Cop has to show becuase you have to givin the right to confront your accuser. Some states just drop it others my rescedule. When fighting a ticket it is alway imperative that YOU KNOW THE LAW because the cop will give the code you violated. If the cop isn;t there and they wanted to try me anyhow I would object and demand tht the cop be there.

 

[Chaotic42]

You've been driving in Louisiana haven't you?

Either that or Kentucky. Both suck for tickets.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: tm37

In every state the Cop has to show becuase you have to givin the right to confront your accuser. Some states just drop it others my rescedule. When fighting a ticket it is alway imperative that YOU KNOW THE LAW because the cop will give the code you violated. If the cop isn;t there and they wanted to try me anyhow I would object and demand tht the cop be there.

Like I said, AFAIK. My experience in traffic courts is only in the states of Oregon and Washington. In Oregon, if the ticketing officer does not physically show up in court, then the case is dismissed, no exceptions. In WA state, the officer is not required to show up, he merely has to provide a sworn and notarized affidavit to the court. IMNSHO, this is wrong, because one cannot confront or cross-examine the testimony of a sworn statement, which is a constitutional right, but that is the law in WA state.
Best bet is just to subpeona the officer, then he HAS to show up or the case is dismissed, regardless of any state laws to the contrary.
As for the officer himself, be prepared for a string of BS to come out of his/her mouth the like of which you have never heard. There is an expression, "To lie like a cop in court," and let me tell you, IME it is true.
And be prepared for the judge as well. Fine revenues generally go straight to the court, so they are hardly the impartial party they try to appear to be. The secret to court is to be prepared, dress smart, take notes, ask questions, boldly cross-examine, follow the rules, not interupt and speak in turn, make a good impression with intelligence and quick thinking, and ABOVE ALL do not waste the judge's time. Even then you will probably still lose, but at the very least you can try to get the fine reduced and/or have the infraction changed to something that won't show on your MVR.