need advice on possible dog adoption

[Geekbabe]

I have a chance to adopt a 2 yr old pom named Simba. The dog is totally adorable and looks to be mannerly. I've asked the current owner for the following

1. access to name/number of the dog's vet

2. I'd like to stop over for coffee to see the dog at home

3.the dog's papers

what other questions and such should I ask ? I'll be paying for the animal.

this dog is totally adorable, tiny, blonde in color, he stood calmly on his leash while the owner and I chatted, when I sat down to pet him he came right over and immediately got into my lap and laid down.. he sat there lapping up the attention for 1/2 an hour

 

[doze]

If your adopting why do you care about papers? I would be worried about why owner is getting rid of dog, if dog is housetrained, and if dog needs to be kept in kennel so it doesn't tear up all your crap while your gone.

 

[olds]

Adopt? I thought you married him??

 

[Conky]

The first thing I would want to know is why are they getting rid of this dog.

I would also ask if it has any unusual or destructive habits/behaviors. Also whether it has any medical conditions you should know about(the vet can confirm this).

My new little puppy(who I've had 3 weeks yesterday) is running me ragged, lol. But I wouldn't trade her for anything.

Good luck with your new friend.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: doze
If your adopting why do you care about papers? I would be worried about why owner is getting rid of dog, if dog is housetrained, and if dog needs to be kept in kennel so it doesn't tear up all your crap while your gone.

the dog has not been neutred, he's quality enough that the owner was going to hire him out for stud.I'd like his papers.

The owner says she's going to be moving into a place where dogs aren't allowed. I also suspect she's got possible money problems.

 

[DrPizza]

Sounds good to me...

Other questions: what's his favorite brand of food?
How often do you feed him, times?
Treats? Brand, frequency?
Does he play with toys - what type of toys does he seem to like?
Is he used to not having anyone home?

The answers to these will help you make a smooth transition for him.

Most other questions, such as general questions about the breed, can be found online, i.e. how bad will he shed?

 

[DrPizza]

Oh, and since you're looking at making money by hiring him out for stud service, you may want to consider taking him to a couple of minor dog shows. A ribbon or two will greatly improve his value as a stud. Of course, there are a lot of "amateurs" willing to pay you a bit of money for breeding purposes. But, if you're serious about using him as a stud, you may want to make sure he comforms to the breed very well, rather than listen to the owner's opinion.

Pomeranian standards here

If you know the standards like the back of your hand, you may even be able to bargain a bit with the lady selling him. (I wouldn't call it "adopting" - adopting simply a softer way of saying "I'm buying the dog and he is property.") But, if there are any noticeable problems with the dog (and truly, only a small percentage meet the breed's ideal standards) then you may be limited on opportunities to use him as a stud. HOWEVER, if he really is of good quality, invest in a couple of bitches as well... They're such small dogs that having 2 or 3 shouldn't be any more work than having 1. Plus, it's a nice little source of side income. My mother used to breed Yorkshire Terriers; until she decided she had done it long enough, she had never had a person look at them and not purchase one... Six or seven hundred dollars times the number of puppies, was a nice little bonus a couple times a year.

 

[DrPizza]

oh, incidentally, we "adopted" a golden retriever. By adopted, I mean from a rescue agency, rather than a private purchase. He was "discarded" because his front legs weren't perfect.. he wasn't show quality. I generally don't like the people who take breeding and showing too seriously, and realize that my previous post almost sounds the same way... I didn't mean it as such.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
oh, incidentally, we "adopted" a golden retriever. By adopted, I mean from a rescue agency, rather than a private purchase. He was "discarded" because his front legs weren't perfect.. he wasn't show quality. I generally don't like the people who take breeding and showing too seriously, and realize that my previous post almost sounds the same way... I didn't mean it as such.

I'm not into the snobbery of pedigree, I like the look and attributes of poms. I'm not seriously thinking of a career as a breeder,it's more along the lines of letting him sire a time or two and possibly ending up with a second pom for myself.

I want a small,fox like companion animal that thinks my lap is heaven

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: DrPizza
oh, incidentally, we "adopted" a golden retriever. By adopted, I mean from a rescue agency, rather than a private purchase. He was "discarded" because his front legs weren't perfect.. he wasn't show quality. I generally don't like the people who take breeding and showing too seriously, and realize that my previous post almost sounds the same way... I didn't mean it as such.

I'm not into the snobbery of pedigree, I like the look and attributes of poms. I'm not seriously thinking of a career as a breeder,it's more along the lines of letting him sire a time or two and possibly ending up with a second pom for myself.

I want a small,fox like companion animal that thinks my lap is heaven

lmao, I think there are a bunch of people posting in ATOT who would think your lap is heaven.

Your first sentence pretty much spelled out what I was attempting to say... when you're getting into stud service and such, you're inevitably going to have to deal with the snobbery of pedigree.

 

[doze]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I want a small,fox like companion animal that thinks my lap is heaven

There are plenty of people on this forum that fit that description, no need to adopt a dog ;-)

 

[hjo3]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: DrPizza
oh, incidentally, we "adopted" a golden retriever. By adopted, I mean from a rescue agency, rather than a private purchase. He was "discarded" because his front legs weren't perfect.. he wasn't show quality. I generally don't like the people who take breeding and showing too seriously, and realize that my previous post almost sounds the same way... I didn't mean it as such.

I'm not into the snobbery of pedigree, I like the look and attributes of poms. I'm not seriously thinking of a career as a breeder,it's more along the lines of letting him sire a time or two and possibly ending up with a second pom for myself.

I want a small,fox like companion animal that thinks my lap is heaven

What would be the point of breeding a dog that doesn't have a good pedigree and, presumably, hasn't even been shown (much less gotten its championship)? God knows the last thing the world needs is more puppies.

And if you're not breeding for show purposes, it seems the responsible thing to do would be to have him neutered. After all, it prevents some conditions, usually improves behavior (not that that sound slike an issue with this dog), and it makes them live longer.

 

[DrPizza]

??? How does neutering make them live longer?
Or is there a correlation there with no causation.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: hjo3

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: DrPizza
oh, incidentally, we "adopted" a golden retriever. By adopted, I mean from a rescue agency, rather than a private purchase. He was "discarded" because his front legs weren't perfect.. he wasn't show quality. I generally don't like the people who take breeding and showing too seriously, and realize that my previous post almost sounds the same way... I didn't mean it as such.

I'm not into the snobbery of pedigree, I like the look and attributes of poms. I'm not seriously thinking of a career as a breeder,it's more along the lines of letting him sire a time or two and possibly ending up with a second pom for myself.

I want a small,fox like companion animal that thinks my lap is heaven

What would be the point of breeding a dog that doesn't have a good pedigree and, presumably, hasn't even been shown (much less gotten its championship)? God knows the last thing the world needs is more puppies.

And if you're not breeding for show purposes, it seems the responsible thing to do would be to have him neutered. After all, it prevents some conditions, usually improves behavior (not that that sound slike an issue with this dog), and it makes them live longer.

I will most likely have him neutred if I get him, however that won't be my first order of business. Establishing a trusting relationship is first.

btw, the owner hasn't stated a price yet, she's hedging around it, said she paid 1k for him
but knows she won't get anywhere near that amount.

he's quite sweet looking, well groomed, beautiful fur and so tiny, he could ride in my messenger bag

 

[hjo3]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
??? How does neutering make them live longer?
Or is there a correlation there with no causation.

I got this from my dad via email (he's a vet):

Spaying a female dog prevents the developement of mammary cancers and pyometra (uterine infection). These two problems are very common in geriatric dogs and are very severe when they do occur. Neutering a male dog tremendously reduces prostatis which can be very severe in geriatric dogs. New research however indicates that neutering does not lower the incidence of prostatic cancer. In most instances, these two proceedures improve the health of geriatric dogs and therefore helps them to live longer.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'd ask why they are getting rid of the dog and if it has had all its shots. That's pretty much all you can do.