Hi, i wanted to try to Linux from scratch. What type of Linux should i use? Redhat or etc? I was told that there were great Linux OS that has great interface (like windows). Can somebody feed me with overviews on what to expect if i use Linux? Is it built-in with drivers like windows do? And can i use it just like i use windows?
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Hi, i wanted to try to Linux from scratch. What type of Linux should i use? Redhat or etc? I was told that there were great Linux OS that has great interface (like windows). Can somebody feed me with overviews on what to expect if i use Linux? Is it built-in with drivers like windows do? And can i use it just like i use windows?
Try out Knoppix.
It's a 'live linux cd', which means that it runs the operating system from the cd itself without having to actually install itself. So that way you can try out the thing without having to make any commitment.
Just be carefull to burn the cd correctly.. if it gets a hiccup or the burn isn't completely successfull then that will cause issues.
http://www.knoppix.org/
If you end up actually wanting to install the OS do searches thru this forum. There is loads of people that ask this same question and there have been very good answers. (Personally I am partial to Ubuntu)
It's a 'live linux cd', which means that it runs the operating system from the cd itself without having to actually install itself. So that way you can try out the thing without having to make any commitment.
Just be carefull to burn the cd correctly.. if it gets a hiccup or the burn isn't completely successfull then that will cause issues.
http://www.knoppix.org/
If you end up actually wanting to install the OS do searches thru this forum. There is loads of people that ask this same question and there have been very good answers. (Personally I am partial to Ubuntu)
If you want to taste first flavor of Unix without too much of hassle, try Knoppix http://www.knoppix.net/ . You download cd image and it runs from withing the cd drive even if you don't have hard disk in your PC. Knoppix detected my TV card and I was able to surf through channels - just tells how complete this unix is.
Next, if you have lot of memory, try installing Redhat or Fedora in VMWare. This way you can have two OSes running in the same computer simultaneously (advantage : tutorial open in primary OS and you are trying them inside VMWare).
Next, if you have lot of memory, try installing Redhat or Fedora in VMWare. This way you can have two OSes running in the same computer simultaneously (advantage : tutorial open in primary OS and you are trying them inside VMWare).
RedHat doesn't make desktop linux anymore, but it has spun off into the Fedora Core community. That's probably your best bet because it's easiest to find packages in RPM format and for Fedora. Install Synaptic (a GUI for the apt package manager) and you're set. A easy to use GUI that has a list of available packages that you can install. It grabs dependent packages for you to boot.
As a new Linux user you'll get frusted that this package needs this package that needs this package. I know I did when I got started.
As a new Linux user you'll get frusted that this package needs this package that needs this package. I know I did when I got started.
Ic, i've tried knoppix i think 2 years ago, i only last about 10 mins 
since i don't know how to operate it. I've tried using it media player and i can't link them to my mp3s inside my harddisk, or should i say i don't how to mount it. Is Redhat the easiest to learn OS? What is Fedora? You mean it can run thru a software called VMWare?
since i don't know how to operate it. I've tried using it media player and i can't link them to my mp3s inside my harddisk, or should i say i don't how to mount it. Is Redhat the easiest to learn OS? What is Fedora? You mean it can run thru a software called VMWare?Originally posted by: Robroy11976
Ic, i've tried knoppix i think 2 years ago, i only last about 10 mins
Fedora Core 3 is the latest version of the desktop versions RedHat. RedHat stopped supporting desktop Linux for a couple years now.
Any version of linux should work on VMWare. There's also Microsoft VirtualPC, but you probably will be better off with VMWare. Both have a free trial, btw.
I'd try out Ubuntu. There is a very good Unofficial Ubuntu Guide that will answers a lot of your questions I bet. For example, to play mp3s in Ubuntu you'll need to get a couple of different codecs and mount whatever drive they are on (then you can play them with the very Winamp-like XMMS), but if you look in the guide, that only ends up being a couple of lines you need to type!
Originally posted by: Robroy11976
Ic, i've tried knoppix i think 2 years ago, i only last about 10 mins
Try knoppix again. Linux has always been improving at a rapid rate.
You probably will have to learn a bit about mounting harddrives and using the command line if you want to use Linux. But it's not something that is bad.. it's a good thing. The command line rocks.
Fedora Core is the no-cost community-targetted operating system from Redhat. They put advanced features in Fedora, test them, get it so that users have the newest stuff, then when it's known to be stable they sell it in their commercial product along with support services.
VMWare is a machine emulator. It doesn't realy emulate a machine so much as it provides fake drivers and hardware resources so that you can run one Operating system inside of another one. So you can run Windows in windows, windows in linux, linux in windows, linux in linux, and all other variations. It's a commercial product though.
There is a colinux that allows you to run Linux in Windows, but it's mainly for things like web developers.
So you mean i should install first VMWare for windows then install Fedora??? I'll have 2 OS running on my drive then?
No. VMWare is a program that runs in Windows that allows you to run virtual machines (operating systems) while still in Windows. That way you don't have to repartition or anything. It does use the host OS + the virtual OS's resources though.
Use "VMware Workstation 5".
I still recommend you to use Knoppix to get initial taste of Unix. There are advantages in using VMWare though. You can easily create snapshot of the OS (which is just few files) before booting in VMWare and restore everytime when things go wrong.
Ok, i'll try to download knoppix again tonight ... but isn't it slow to process? I mean all processing will have to go thru the cd and it's not as fast as the hard drive. And also, where could i learn the command line in knoppix??
Nice. Here I am, whose first Linux experience was trying to fit Slackware onto what I thought was a 16MB-o'-RAM box (actually had 4), and he's trying to upstage me by going straight for LFS!
If you have a gig or so of RAM, you can load the contents of the CD straight onto a ramdisk, and it will run even more quickly than if it were running from the hard drive.
Ic ... i currently have 512mb of ram, so i guess i would experience a little slow on processing. Hopefully i could learn Linux since i've told that it's the most stable OS. Thanks to all you guys for helping me out.
Actually VMWare is just a normal application. You install another OS inside VMWare - which means your original OS wouldn't have slightest idea what is going inside VMWare. It is like you are running linux (or any other OS) as if you are running Word or Excel from withing your default OS.
My desktop snapshots showing VMWare in action - (Primary OS is 2003)
Red Hat 7.2 inside VMWare
Red Hat 7.2 Gnome
Windows XP inside VMWare
Cool, i'm impressed. So you mean i could install vmware workstation in my windows xp then i install fedora? Is that right? Then could i run fedora separately on other pc stand alone?
Yes you can install VMWare in your existing Windows XP and then install Fedora inside it. If you want to port installed instance of Fedora, you have to copy virtual harddisk (is just a file VMWare made) to another PC and run from there. (Analogy - you create word doc in pc1. Copy it to pc2. And, you open the same doc in pc2 given you have word installed).
You cannot move VMWare installed OS out of the cage. That means you cannot move already installed instance of VMWare Fedora to a separate PC.
But, there is one interesting feature in VMWare. Let's say your HD is dual partition with two OSes. You can now import physically installed OS inside your VMWare. (I mean let's say I have RedHat linux in my non-dos partition, I can import RedHat from within my primary OS and make them run simultaneously).
You cannot move VMWare installed OS out of the cage. That means you cannot move already installed instance of VMWare Fedora to a separate PC.
But, there is one interesting feature in VMWare. Let's say your HD is dual partition with two OSes. You can now import physically installed OS inside your VMWare. (I mean let's say I have RedHat linux in my non-dos partition, I can import RedHat from within my primary OS and make them run simultaneously).
Ok, i get it ... now where could i download Fedora? And also, where could i get the tutorial for both knoppix and fedora? Thanks a lot.
I just evaluated a bunch of Linux distributions and I'm just a newbie.
I liked Suse but had issues with both 9.2 and 9.3. I hated Knoppix. I tried Ubuntu but don't like Gnome.
Lastly I tried Kubuntu. This is my favorite Linux and I'd recommend it to anyone that's coming from a windows world becasue KDE is the most user friendly human I/F.
I liked Suse but had issues with both 9.2 and 9.3. I hated Knoppix. I tried Ubuntu but don't like Gnome.
Lastly I tried Kubuntu. This is my favorite Linux and I'd recommend it to anyone that's coming from a windows world becasue KDE is the most user friendly human I/F.
Ok, i'll try Kubuntu also ... where could i download it? Anyway, does anybody here knows where i could get a tutorial of knoppix in English Language? The one in their website are written in other languages.
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