Need advice on computer upgrades

Zelos689

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First of all, hello to everyone here at Anandtech. I would explain my whole history of me discovering this site (and stalking these forums for a few weeks) but that'd take to long.

Instead, let me just say that this is my favorite computer site out there and get on with the topic.

As the title says, I need advice on upgrading a few components of my (well, my family's) two and a half year old Dell 4500. It's got to be the single worst comptuer out there that someone actually TRIES to game on (sure, there are probably worse ones people use for nothing more then word processing and internet surfing). At the time, it was all right, but faded FAST. As in, within a couple weeks and it was hopelessly out of date.

I've torn it open a few times, and in conjunction with the Device Manager, I have compiled this list of specs for it,

Dell Dimension 4500 (1 120mm Fan located on back with shroud directing airflow over CPU only, 2 Front USB, 1 Front Headphones Jack)
-Dell Proprietary Motherboard (2 ATA, 1 FDD, 1 AGP 4x, 5 PCI, Onboard Audio, 2 DDR DIMM Slots, 4 Rear USB)
-250 Watt Dell Power Supply (+5V=22A, +3.3V=18A, +5Vfp=2A, +12V=14A, -12V=1A)
-2.0GHz Pentium 4 Processor (Equipped with only a heatsink, no fan)
-256MB DDR PC2100 (266MHz) RAM
-Maxtor 40GB 6L040J2 Hard Drive
-32MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra
-Onboard Audio
-LITE-ON LTR-24102M CD-RW Drive
-Generic Dell Floppy Disk Drive
-Creative Modem Blaster PCI DI5633 56K Modem
-CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
-Windows XP Home SP1

Out of all those, the only thing ever upgraded was the 56K modem, as the stock one died and at the time we were still using Dial-Up (got Cable now)

Anyone with eyes could see the problems I'm having with this computer, namely the 256MB memory and ATI Rage Graphics card. Also, the sole fan that only cools the CPU and weak power supply doesn't help.

In a year or so (whenever I gather up around $2000 or so to build the system in the link in my sig with whatever changes to it I make beween now and then) I plan to just build my own, new, gaming computer, but until then I want to make this computer good enough to settle me down.

Obviously, I plan on grabbing another 256MB of RAM, but here come's my first question, I could tell from the pin alignment on the motherboard it looks like it uses DDR RAM and the current stick lists it as PC2100, but can I use Memory purchased from Newegg (such as this) or does it have to be official Dell Memory I buy from their website?

Second, I need to upgrade the graphics card. However, AGP 4x limits my upgrading potential. Seeing as I have no idea how well the older, cheaper graphics cards run, what is the best AGP 4x or PCI graphics card for under $100, and will it play Half-Life 2 at a decent (30+ on extrememly low quality) framerate.

That's really all I need to know for right now, however any other suggestions (helpful ones...) would be appreciated.
 

nick1985

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that RAM will work, but i suggest maybe getting pc-3200. it shouldnt be much more and you will be able to use it in your future gaming rig.

also, your best bet for a video card would be a 9600pro, there is one at newegg for $106 i believe
 

Zelos689

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Jan 23, 2005
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Hmm, would there be any incompatibility issues with having one stick of 2100 and another of 3200?
 

kd2777

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1) that RAM should work.
2) Most all AGP cards work in 4x mode. I had a eVGA 6800GT and it worked fine in 4X mode. If you are wanting to stay under a 100, that really limits you. I would spend a few bucks more and go with a 9600XT.

kd
 

Zelos689

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Ah, okay. I get it now. I'll have to consider whether I'll want to rip that memory outof this computer when I get the new one or not then.

So, any other opinions on Graphic cards?
 

mechBgon

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Welcome to the Forums :) The module you linked to should be fine, assuming you have an open memory slot. Since the Dell won't let you adjust your memory voltage, I would stick with PC2100 or PC2700 for it. Some PC3200 seems to need 2.6 volts or higher for stability.

For a video card, maybe a Radeon 9600Pro from the For Sale & Trade section of the Forums...? Probably good enough to play HalfLife2 at 800 x 600 or better. You could get a PCI-slot exhaust blower to put right below it, if you have a free PCI slot and want to help the ventilation a bit.
 

Nick5324

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This Sapphire is $106. I think Nick1985 was thinking of this card (maybe he saw me link to this card in a recent thread). Sapphire cards seem to have a good rep.

Here is a 9600XT for $129 shipped. Rosewill is newegg's in house brand as far as i can tell. The sapphire version of this card is about $140. Might be worth the extra cost to you, might not. I can think of a lot worse ways to spend $23, but to each his own.

If you look at this thread , you can get a 512MB stick for the same price, if you can wait on a $30 MIR. You would have to do this today (the 1st), as the coupon expires today.
 

kd2777

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Originally posted by: Nick5324
This Sapphire is $106. I think Nick1985 was thinking of this card (maybe he saw me link to this card in a recent thread). Sapphire cards seem to have a good rep.

Here is a 9600XT for $129 shipped. Rosewill is newegg's in house brand as far as i can tell. The sapphire version of this card is about $140. Might be worth the extra cost to you, might not. I can think of a lot worse ways to spend $23, but to each his own.

If you look at this thread , you can get a 512MB stick for the same price, if you can wait on a $30 MIR. You would have to do this today (the 1st), as the coupon expires today.

I like this, get the 512 RAM which is about the same after rebate and the 9600XT, It is a much better video card and not much more, that way you can get the max out of the upgrade. It will let you play HL2 much better.

kd