Need Advice on a new sound card.

arod

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My limit is $160, what do you guys recommend for the klipsch promedias(so 4 channel support), windows 2000, and a MSI K7t266?

I was thinking about
Creative Lab Sound Blaster Platinum 5.1
HERCULES GAMING THEATER XP

or any others if you know a better one...
 

V

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Get a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. It is a very nice card. It is about $80 too! You can use the rest of the money for something else.
 

arod

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I was planning on getting it at newegg.com, I will play DVD's so downmixing is a must... I heard about the santa cruzs anybody else reccommend them. Also Win2k drivers are very important.
 

Howard

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Don't get the Live! Get the Hercules GT XP, or the Philips AcousticEdge, or the Turtle Beach SC.
 

Howard

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The Windows 2000 drivers for the Santa Cruz are good, or so I've heard.

Sometimes there are incompatibilities between the Live! cards and VIA chipsets.
 

Oyeve

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Dont let any creative labs bashers coax you! The SB Live platinum is an excellent card!
 

Noriaki

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<< I will play DVD's so downmixing is a must... >>

You know that any software DVD player will do this for you right? The Live 5.1s don't have hardware Dolby Decoding, they just have a driver trick to do it in software....any good software player will do the same or better.



As for the card, the Live! line are OK but they are nearly 3 years old, and the analog output quality is very poor compared to the Santa Cruz and the Acoustic Edge (and from what I've been told Hercules is better as well, but I haven't used them myself). That's my only major complaint...after hearing the A.Edge's output quality it really puts the analogs on the Live! to shame. Sensura 3D on the Turtle Beach/Hercules cards is suppose to be pretty cool to, but I've never used it personally.

Personally I wouldn't get the live...it's old and outclassed by newer cards, but I've used one for 2 years and it's certainly not atrocious or anything. But if I were buying a card now I'd get a Cirrus Logic Cold Fusion DSP based card. That's the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz or the Hercules Game Theatre XP and Fortissimo2 I believe will be the same chip though it's not out.

The Turtle Beach is great for 4 speaker systems, and then it has a versa jack you can use as a dedicated headphone jack if you care about that :) That's what I'm going to do with it.

The GTXP is like the SBLive! Platinum, it has a breakout box with all the audio connectors you could want.

The Philips cards are nice quality as well, and but they do weird things to wavs in 4 speaker mode. I've never actually heard QXpander in action...but I like my music un-processed. And as of now you can't turn it off :confused:. Besides for gaming, Sensura3D is better than QSound 3D.

For DVDs you just need 4 channels output and a good sofware player so either works.

Music in 4 channel mode goes to the Cold Fusion cards.
Music in 2 channel mode is about even between Cold Fusion and the Philips chip.
DVDs are also about even.
Gaming would go to the Cold Fusion cards.
And the Cold Fusion cards have dedicated headphone jacks :)

So I'd get a Cold Fusion based card. The Game Theatre XP if you want the breakout box, the Santa Cruz if you don't.
 

Looney

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Hm, i think i might go for the Santa Cruz myself... i already own 2 Live! (one Platinum with the DUN that goes straight to my DTT2500) , but due to Creative Labs dismal customer service (their VERY late Win2k drivers), i've vowed never to buy another of their product (hence one of my computer is still using the yahama onboard sound). But now that i hear that the Santa Cruz has good Win2k support, i think i might just go for that.
 

pulse8

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HERCULES GAME THEATER XP...I have mine on the way, so I can't really talk too much about it. But I'm VERY excited...


David
 

Oyeve

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Why? I have a p3v4x, win2k and live platinum 5.1. I have no problems whatsoever.
 

arod

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I will probably get the Hercules Xp, just one quick question. On their site it doesn't have win2k listed as an option for drivers only 95,98,Me. Will this be a problem?
 

Varmot

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The people over at ViaHardware site recommend the following sound cards because of the compatibility problems with VIA chipsets and Sound Blaster cards.

Philips Acoustic Edge 5.1
Hercules Game Theater XP
Santa Cruz

Good Luck