need a VIN check or internet MMR (manheim auction price) for a car let me know

[holden j caufield]

no catch, trying to give something back to the BB.


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[LOUISSSSS]

BB?

 

[DivideBYZero]

BULLETIN BOARD. Been under that rock long?

 

[fdsnail]

Try to figure out the price of 530i, I'll appreciate it very much if you could help )))
22 11 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 23,297 SLVRGRY WBANE73567CM58784 X SR
22 29 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 11,486 JET BLAC WBANE73547CM53678 SR
22 130 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 26,446 JETBLACK WBANE73547CM49002 X SR

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Try to figure out the price of 530i, I'll appreciate it very much if you could help )))
22 11 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 23,297 SLVRGRY WBANE73567CM58784 X SR
22 29 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 11,486 JET BLAC WBANE73547CM53678 SR
22 130 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 26,446 JETBLACK WBANE73547CM49002 X SR

No offense, but who are you? Two of those cars sold at auction very recently with that exact mileage, I don't usually mind giving out average prices, but I'm a bit weary of giving out exact car sale prices (especially considering you just joined today).

 

[fdsnail]

I found a very nice CPO 2007 530i car, but not sure how much to argue form the ask price seems really high.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/...d%3D28705&aff=national
Then I started to search auction list, found a link , http://list.2008.now.googlepages.com/HighlineList.txt, so I picked a couple with similar mileage. And your post also came out from the search, so I registered today and post the question, I never visit AnandTech before.
The both search are done today in about half an hour by google ) I am fine to pay $3k~4k more for CPO, but hopefully not much more.

I understand if you think the question is not appropriate, I still appreciate much your quick reply.

 

[holden j caufield]

Originally posted by: fdsnail
I found a very nice CPO 2007 530i car, but not sure how much to argue form the ask price seems really high.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/...d%3D28705&aff=national
Then I started to search auction list, found a link , http://list.2008.now.googlepages.com/HighlineList.txt, so I picked a couple with similar mileage. And your post also came out from the search, so I registered today and post the question, I never visit AnandTech before.
The both search are done today in about half an hour by google ) I am fine to pay $3k~4k more for CPO, but hopefully not much more.

I understand if you think the question is not appropriate, I still appreciate much your quick reply.

haven't check this in sometime. I'll hop on manheim and check for you tomorrow or Sat.

 

[LeetViet]

Are you offering CarFax reports or something?

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: LeetViet
Are you offering CarFax reports or something?

no. He is not offering that.

 

[fdsnail]

I have autocheck expiring in a month. I can get you autocheck report until mine is expired.

Originally posted by: LeetViet
Are you offering CarFax reports or something?

 

[Arkaign]

2008 BMW 760Li, 13k miles, Auto, All options?

 

[Vortex22]

From the other thread:

Auction price on 2006 Lexus IS350 no navi, ~60k miles?

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Try to figure out the price of 530i, I'll appreciate it very much if you could help )))
22 11 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 23,297 SLVRGRY WBANE73567CM58784 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $29,250 23,297 Above SLVRGRY 6G A Yes
22 29 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 11,486 JET BLAC WBANE73547CM53678 SR
Not Listed
22 130 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 26,446 JETBLACK WBANE73547CM49002 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $30,500 26,446 Above JETBLACK 6G A Yes

Use this info wisely

Originally posted by: Arkaign
2008 BMW 760Li, 13k miles, Auto, All options?

Above Average Below
Sale Price $94,198 $76,000 $57,802
Mileage 4,179 8,357 12,536
Total Sold All 7

A 760 is a rare car, only 7 sold in the last few months, so it's going to be hard to draw any conclusions from just those average prices. Here is the exact data:

07/10/09 NEVADA Lease $76,000 8,357 Avg JET BLAC 12G P Yes
06/10/09 MANHEIM Factory $80,000 4,438 Avg ALPWHITE 12G A Yes
05/07/09 W PALM Lease $82,400 3,345 Avg BLACK SA 12G A Yes
03/26/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $54,000 50,410 Below ALPINE W 12G A Yes
03/26/09 MANHEIM Factory $70,000 3,072 Avg TITANGRY 12G A Yes
03/18/09 MANHEIM Factory $90,250 1,020 Above RUBY BLK 12G A Yes
03/18/09 MANHEIM Factory $73,000 3,220 Avg BLKSAPPH 12G A Yes

Originally posted by: Vortex22
From the other thread:

Auction price on 2006 Lexus IS350 no navi, ~60k miles?

Sale Price $25,710 $22,956 $20,202
Mileage 22,666 41,747 60,828
Total Sold All 80

With mileage adjustment for 60k:
Auction $22,700 $20,900 $19,100

 

[fdsnail]

Man, thanks so much, really appreciate it.

The car I found at dealer ask for $39.9k :shocked: http://east-bay-bmw.ebizautos.com/webdetail.aspx?iid=4359621
I understand the option would make some difference, but ....

Thanks again ...

btw, anyone need autocheck report (similar to carfax) please post here, I can help until mine is expired next month.

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Try to figure out the price of 530i, I'll appreciate it very much if you could help )))
22 11 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 23,297 SLVRGRY WBANE73567CM58784 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $29,250 23,297 Above SLVRGRY 6G A Yes
22 29 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 11,486 JET BLAC WBANE73547CM53678 SR
Not Listed
22 130 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 26,446 JETBLACK WBANE73547CM49002 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $30,500 26,446 Above JETBLACK 6G A Yes

Use this info wisely

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: fdsnail
btw, anyone need autocheck report (similar to carfax) please post here, I can help until mine is expired next month.

I may take you up on that.

 

[Vortex22]

Thank you sir!

 

[fdsnail]

Went to bmw dealer today and offer $33.5k, the sales said it is impossible.
I said I heard the Manheim auction price is around $30k. The dealer said the $30k is not the final cost they get the car, it is much more, plus CPO worth more than $3k ...

Is it true that the dealer cost to get the car is much higher (I mean 5~10%) than the price list in the post. I thought the sale price list in Manheim is the final price dealer get. There may be some regular fee to register as dealer to join the auction, but it is more like membership fee every year. Do they pay any fees or tax for it?

Thanks a lot.

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Man, thanks so much, really appreciate it.

The car I found at dealer ask for $39.9k :shocked: http://east-bay-bmw.ebizautos.com/webdetail.aspx?iid=4359621
I understand the option would make some difference, but ....

Thanks again ...

btw, anyone need autocheck report (similar to carfax) please post here, I can help until mine is expired next month.

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Try to figure out the price of 530i, I'll appreciate it very much if you could help )))
22 11 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 23,297 SLVRGRY WBANE73567CM58784 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $29,250 23,297 Above SLVRGRY 6G A Yes
22 29 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 11,486 JET BLAC WBANE73547CM53678 SR
Not Listed
22 130 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 26,446 JETBLACK WBANE73547CM49002 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $30,500 26,446 Above JETBLACK 6G A Yes

Use this info wisely

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Went to bmw dealer today and offer $33.5k, the sales said it is impossible.
I said I heard the auction price is around $30k. The dealer said the $30k is not the final cost they get the car, it is much more, plus CPO worth more than $3k ...

Is it true? The dealer cost to get the car is much higher (I mean 5~10%) than the price list in the post. Do they pay any fees or tax for it?

Thanks a lot.

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Man, thanks so much, really appreciate it.

The car I found at dealer ask for $39.9k :shocked: http://east-bay-bmw.ebizautos.com/webdetail.aspx?iid=4359621
I understand the option would make some difference, but ....

Thanks again ...

btw, anyone need autocheck report (similar to carfax) please post here, I can help until mine is expired next month.

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Try to figure out the price of 530i, I'll appreciate it very much if you could help )))
22 11 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 23,297 SLVRGRY WBANE73567CM58784 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $29,250 23,297 Above SLVRGRY 6G A Yes
22 29 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 11,486 JET BLAC WBANE73547CM53678 SR
Not Listed
22 130 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 26,446 JETBLACK WBANE73547CM49002 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $30,500 26,446 Above JETBLACK 6G A Yes

Use this info wisely

You cant expect to get anywhere near auction prices at a dealership, especially with a high level brand.

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Went to bmw dealer today and offer $33.5k, the sales said it is impossible.
I said I heard the auction price is around $30k. The dealer said the $30k is not the final cost they get the car, it is much more, plus CPO worth more than $3k ...

Is it true? The dealer cost to get the car is much higher (I mean 5~10%) than the price list in the post. Do they pay any fees or tax for it?

Thanks a lot.

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Man, thanks so much, really appreciate it.

The car I found at dealer ask for $39.9k :shocked: http://east-bay-bmw.ebizautos.com/webdetail.aspx?iid=4359621
I understand the option would make some difference, but ....

Thanks again ...

btw, anyone need autocheck report (similar to carfax) please post here, I can help until mine is expired next month.

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: fdsnail
Try to figure out the price of 530i, I'll appreciate it very much if you could help )))
22 11 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 23,297 SLVRGRY WBANE73567CM58784 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $29,250 23,297 Above SLVRGRY 6G A Yes
22 29 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 11,486 JET BLAC WBANE73547CM53678 SR
Not Listed
22 130 2007 B M W 5 SERIES 530I 4D SEDAN AUTO 6G/A 26,446 JETBLACK WBANE73547CM49002 X SR
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $30,500 26,446 Above JETBLACK 6G A Yes

Use this info wisely

Obviously you didn't do all of your reading when I said use this info wisely. The auction price of the car is 30k, then you have to include a couple of hundred dollars in auction fees and the cost of transporting the car to the dealership. Then the interest that they pay on their floor plan financing, so that they could afford the car in the first place. The cost of certifying the car is probably somewhere around 2-3k, but that doesn't necessarily include the cost of any maintenance costs that they paid out of their own pocket to bring it to certifiable spec.

And, all of that above still doesn't factor in the fact that that dealer still has to make a profit. There's obviously room in their asking price, but offering anything under 35k was just foolish on your part (and I'd be surprised if they still want to deal with you after that).

 

[fdsnail]

My question is if it is true dealer cost to get car is higher than the auction price.

I am fine if they said their cost is 30k, cpo 3k, and they need to earn 3k for the effort. That is understandable.

Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy

You cant expect to get anywhere near auction prices at a dealership, especially with a high level brand.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Originally posted by: fdsnail
My question is if it is true dealer cost to get car is higher than the auction price.

I am fine if they said their cost is 30k, cpo 3k, and they need to earn 3k for the effort. That is understandable.

Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy

You cant expect to get anywhere near auction prices at a dealership, especially with a high level brand.

Well yeah of course, they arent going to send it around for the same price they bought it for. CPO costs a bit of money to do, but its usually worth it in the long run.

 

[fdsnail]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Obviously you didn't do all of your reading when I said use this info wisely. The auction price of the car is 30k, then you have to include a couple of hundred dollars in auction fees and the cost of transporting the car to the dealership. Then the interest that they pay on their floor plan financing, so that they could afford the car in the first place. The cost of certifying the car is probably somewhere around 2-3k, but that doesn't necessarily include the cost of any maintenance costs that they paid out of their own pocket to bring it to certifiable spec.

And, all of that above still doesn't factor in the fact that that dealer still has to make a profit. There's obviously room in their asking price, but offering anything under 35k was just foolish on your part (and I'd be surprised if they still want to deal with you after that).

Hey Man, I hope I did not offense you. I did not use the exact info you posted, I just said I heard ... , no specific car or auction time. I do appreciate your help.

Your comment is more clear and make more sense to me. I could try to offer $35k or more. Actually the sales was polite and just said I can think about if I could offer more.

My understanding from a buyer is we try to offer a low price at first and dealer will explain something, then we understand the dealer need make some profit and the buyer don't want to be ripped off especially at this economy, so eventually settled to a price for both to be ok. That is the reason I asked help for the price here. I even did not ask for test drive today since I know my price might be too low. I don't have plan to buy a used car at the first time I visit, the price of an used car is not as easy as a new car since the invoice price is all over on the web. Btw, I looked at bimmerfest forum, guys there are more aggressive than me on price

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: fdsnail

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Obviously you didn't do all of your reading when I said use this info wisely. The auction price of the car is 30k, then you have to include a couple of hundred dollars in auction fees and the cost of transporting the car to the dealership. Then the interest that they pay on their floor plan financing, so that they could afford the car in the first place. The cost of certifying the car is probably somewhere around 2-3k, but that doesn't necessarily include the cost of any maintenance costs that they paid out of their own pocket to bring it to certifiable spec.

And, all of that above still doesn't factor in the fact that that dealer still has to make a profit. There's obviously room in their asking price, but offering anything under 35k was just foolish on your part (and I'd be surprised if they still want to deal with you after that).

Hey Man, I hope I did not offense you. I did not use the exact info you posted, I just said I heard ... , no specific car or auction time. I do appreciate your help.

Your comment is more clear and make more sense to me. I could try to offer $35k or more. Actually the sales was polite and just said I can think about if I could offer more.

My understanding from a buyer is we try to offer a low price at first and dealer will explain something, then we understand the dealer need make some profit and the buyer don't want to be ripped off especially at this economy, so eventually settled to a price for both to be ok. That is the reason I asked help for the price here. I even did not ask for test drive today since I know my price might be too low. I don't have plan to buy a used car at the first time I visit, the price of an used car is not as easy as a new car since the invoice price is all over on the web. Btw, I looked at bimmerfest forum, guys there are more aggressive than me on price

You didn't offend me, you just didnt heed my warning

The guys on bimmerforums are aggressive because the car you're looking at is relatively overpriced. The word above in the auction result that I posted means that the car is in above average condition and priced accordingly. The average auction result for a 2007 is $26,259 for a car with 39,647 miles. That car could probably be bought for 33k easily. But, you know that the dealer paid for the car so you have to be realistic, this particular car might not be right for you.

 

[Gillbot]

2002 Camaro Z28, 13k miles (yes, only 13k) A4 trans, T-Top, Premium wheels, leather, loaded with everything but the changer

 

[Jumpem]

2007 Honda Fit Sport, Auto, 85k miles. thanks.