Need a suggestion on a new LCD 1080p TV plus comments on room design

[CTrain]

I certainly don't think 40" is too small.
Lok at where the sofa will be to the wall, its gonna be 6 feet away at most.
Sure you can always get a bigger TV but I wouldn't say its small relative to where the sofa will be.

I still say get a 42" plasma cause it looks like to me you will be watching TV 95% of the time.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: 3NF
Well, if you want it to be the focal point then, get a bigger TV! 40" isn't going to cut it. What are the dimensions of the room, or did I miss that?

in your opinion what size would cut it?

 

[CTrain]

BTW, if you look at the old floor plan, the old people had their TV mounted on the wall to the left of where he will be mounting his new TV.
The distance from wall to wall to the old TV is alot farther than the new wall to wall distance of where hes going to mount his new TV.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

YOu probably know the 1.5:1 ratio. Some use 2:1. That's the TV siz versus sitting distance. For a 40", you should be atleast 60"-80" away. Looks like you got that covered.

Your main couches will always give a good view of theTV. Some sitting off to the side might not get a good view. IS this a consideration?

Don't pay to have someone install anything. Talk about wasting your money. Just run the wires along the floor. Or under carpets, etc..... It looks liek all the wires can easily be tucked along the baserboard though.

AS for the TV, get what you want. LCD is coming of age finally. I went with Plasma about 4 months ago. a 42" Panisonic that is 720p.

1080i can be covnerted to 1080p in many cases with little loss. Thing is, both formats are compressed in a lossy format, so why debate. Close enough to identical and no one is spending $50K on a system that I am reading about. End that debate ..... it's pointless.

I think you mentoined 5.1 surround. That's fine. I wouldn't run more that that in that room. I have amuch larger room (22x15 or so). ACtually bigger than that, but hte TV area is that size and I am having a hard time deciding on an upgrade to 7.1

 

[spidey07]

Ihatemyjob....

That is WAY to far to be sitting from the TV. Just go look up the calculators.

I wouldn't dare sit any further than 8 feet away from the 65" at home. You lose all detail and any advantage of HD.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK

Originally posted by: 3NF
Well, if you want it to be the focal point then, get a bigger TV! 40" isn't going to cut it. What are the dimensions of the room, or did I miss that?

in your opinion what size would cut it?

Depends on the distance between you and the set. Based on the layout, I'd start looking at least at 50".

I had at TW40X81 (40") set long ago and although it was a great set, I always thought it was a bit small.

Will this be inside an entertainment center, that will add to the focal point?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
YOu probably know the 1.5:1 ratio. Some use 2:1. That's the TV siz versus sitting distance. For a 40", you should be atleast 60"-80" away. Looks like you got that covered.

Your main couches will always give a good view of theTV. Some sitting off to the side might not get a good view. IS this a consideration?

Don't pay to have someone install anything. Talk about wasting your money. Just run the wires along the floor. Or under carpets, etc..... It looks liek all the wires can easily be tucked along the baserboard though.

AS for the TV, get what you want. LCD is coming of age finally. I went with Plasma about 4 months ago. a 42" Panisonic that is 720p.

1080i can be covnerted to 1080p in many cases with little loss. Thing is, both formats are compressed in a lossy format, so why debate. Close enough to identical and no one is spending $50K on a system that I am reading about. End that debate ..... it's pointless.

I think you mentoined 5.1 surround. That's fine. I wouldn't run more that that in that room. I have amuch larger room (22x15 or so). ACtually bigger than that, but hte TV area is that size and I am having a hard time deciding on an upgrade to 7.1

5.1 vs 7.1 isn't a huge deal.

If you can place it well, then it could be a good idea though. 5.1 can be hard enough to get right in a lot of rooms

alkohoLiK, all this about the display and your only mention of sound was that you were going to get it wired in?

Are you keeping your current system then?

btw
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/roomlayout.html

 

[TangoJuliet]

sorry guys i had my work dinner break....to respond to some of the comments

when i get home ill measure the wall to wall distance and give the measurements of the sofas. Like I said earlier I think its about 6' from the one couch and 8' from the other....but thats just a guesstimate.

there really isnt a way to hide the wires without going through the walls. there isnt any carpet on the floor (aside from the area rug which is only going to be a 8'x10') and if I wire them along the baseboard theres no room to go above the sliding doors and they cant be routed the other way either (would cut across the kitchen).

i will be keeping the same 5.1 system as mentioned in the main thread. i'll keep it until a blueray/hd dvd home theater 5.1 system comes out (thats affordable).

 

[TangoJuliet]

anybody else?

 

[jwhitakr]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Ihatemyjob....

That is WAY to far to be sitting from the TV. Just go look up the calculators.

I wouldn't dare sit any further than 8 feet away from the 65" at home. You lose all detail and any advantage of HD.

I'll add my 2 cents...

In my experience, the 1.5:1 ratio (for HD viewing) and the 2:1 ratio (for SD viewing) is dead on. So, what ihatemyjob mentioned above would be correct...if you go with a 40" TV, you should plan to sit at least 60"-80" away for optimal viewing distance.

spidey - I own a 61" rear-projection LCD and don't feel that any detail of HD is lost at a viewing distance of about 10.5 feet. I don't know what your eyesight is, but if you feel like you lose all of the HD detail at a viewing distance of greater than 8 feet with a 65" TV, either your eyesight or your TV needs to be checked out by a professional.

 

[jwhitakr]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
5.1 vs 7.1 isn't a huge deal.

If you can place it well, then it could be a good idea though. 5.1 can be hard enough to get right in a lot of rooms

alkohoLiK, all this about the display and your only mention of sound was that you were going to get it wired in?

Are you keeping your current system then?

btw
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/roomlayout.html

Good advice :thumbsup: . I would focus on setting up your existing 5.1 system, with proper room layout and calibration, before even considering going to a 7.1 system.

 

[Viper GTS]

Definitely need a bigger TV. Are you absolutely set on something wall mountable?

I have a 61" 1080P DLP, viewing distance is just over 7', & I'm already thinking that 70+ wouldn't be so bad in here.

37" is WAY too small for that area.

Viper GTS

 

[jwhitakr]

What's your total budget for the TV plus the installation?

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Ihatemyjob....

That is WAY to far to be sitting from the TV. Just go look up the calculators.

I wouldn't dare sit any further than 8 feet away from the 65" at home. You lose all detail and any advantage of HD.

I guess videophiles don't know what they are talking about.

And what calcualtors are you talkign about? The ratios are well known among the videophile community. Not to mention your 8' for a 65" is a ratio of about 1.5:1

I guess all my research into home theater was wasted ... but I'll still stick with what videophiles say.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Wit hall this talk of a 50" .... I just want to point one thing out. The couch that is farthest away will easily support viewing 50. I'd actually recomend it myself. But people sitting i nteh clsoest spot in that love seat are going to hate watching TV in your home.

that is all.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Sorry for the delay but here are the dimensions....

First the floor plan again

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l36/skyynet/LivingRoom2.jpg

The room measures 13.5' feet (162"). That would be measuring from where the TV is to the longer couch.

The coffee table in the middle measures 50"w x 34"d x 17.75"h

The longer couch measures 82" x 36" x 36"h

The shorter couch measures 60" x 36" x 36"h

So from the wall to the front of the shorter couch would be approx 66" (5.5') and aprox 10.5' from the longer couch.

So taking that into consideration about 5.5' and 10.5' from the wall where the TV would be hung how large of a TV would you recommend?

Also just to rehash the requirements. I am looking for a 1080p LCD TV. No DLPs or plasmas (unless you can find a 1080p plasma around the same price as an LCD).

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I guess videophiles don't know what they are talking about.

And what calcualtors are you talkign about? The ratios are well known among the videophile community. Not to mention your 8' for a 65" is a ratio of about 1.5:1

I guess all my research into home theater was wasted ... but I'll still stick with what videophiles say.

Here's a nice calculator/graph....showing that 80" is too far for a 40 inch display.

hardcore video nut here. I just want to make the OP aware of what is possible if he moves to a larger display.

http://www.carltonbale.com/wp-content/uploads/distance_chart.png

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I guess videophiles don't know what they are talking about.

And what calcualtors are you talkign about? The ratios are well known among the videophile community. Not to mention your 8' for a 65" is a ratio of about 1.5:1

I guess all my research into home theater was wasted ... but I'll still stick with what videophiles say.

Here's a nice calculator/graph....showing that 80" is too far for a 40 inch display.

hardcore video nut here. I just want to make the OP aware of what is possible if he moves to a larger display.

http://www.carltonbale.com/wp-content/uploads/distance_chart.png

according to that chart....sitting 10' back would require me getting a screen that is 75"? is that correct?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I guess videophiles don't know what they are talking about.

And what calcualtors are you talkign about? The ratios are well known among the videophile community. Not to mention your 8' for a 65" is a ratio of about 1.5:1

I guess all my research into home theater was wasted ... but I'll still stick with what videophiles say.

Here's a nice calculator/graph....showing that 80" is too far for a 40 inch display.

hardcore video nut here. I just want to make the OP aware of what is possible if he moves to a larger display.

http://www.carltonbale.com/wp-content/uploads/distance_chart.png

according to that chart....sitting 10' back would require me getting a screen that is 75"? is that correct?

That sounds about right.

 

[ballmode]

The rest of your house set up is fruity. The candles and "memories" screams HGTV to me

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK


according to that chart....sitting 10' back would require me getting a screen that is 75"? is that correct?

That sounds about right.

:Q $$$$

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK


according to that chart....sitting 10' back would require me getting a screen that is 75"? is that correct?

That sounds about right.

:Q $$$$

Yeah, well since I can't afford such things in direct view displays, I go for front projection

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK


according to that chart....sitting 10' back would require me getting a screen that is 75"? is that correct?

That sounds about right.

:Q $$$$

Yeah, well since I can't afford such things in direct view displays, I go for front projection

I'm not buying a projector or a projection tv so if the people sitting on the far couch have a problem seeing a 46" tv then they can go home to their 27" sdtv.

Originally posted by: ballmode
The rest of your house set up is fruity. The candles and "memories" screams HGTV to me

How many times do I have to explain that is not my house. That is the previous owners and their crappy setup. I dont have anything in the living room yet - hence the reason for this goddamn thread :roll:

 

[mchammer]

How much is the TV you are considering in 40" and 46"??

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: mchammer
How much is the TV you are considering in 40" and 46"??

looking at spending about 2000-3000 on the tv