I know this should be an easy thing to just look up on google but for some reason none of them are working. My main problem has been that I can add music but can not delete music. Ive already installed 4 different programs including winamp which looks to be the exact same thing as what itunes was to begin with. So without installing every program out there Im curious what others have used that they like. I just need a stand alone program that i can use to manage my music...I dont need a player or anything else. This is still the main reason i really hate apple. if this was any other mp3 I could just use my computer to do the job, but with apple it must be a stand alone program. In any case im using win xp and have prob a first gen ipod along with a recent version (maybe the 2 years old for the newer one.) Outside of this problem theyt work great and the battery life really is quite good, and being gifts to me I cant complain too much.