Need a new cpu

Bman123

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2008
3,221
1
81
Looking to build a pc slowly but surely and I am lost on the cpu section. All I do is websurf. no gaming, no editing, just forums, some flash games that my daughter plays.
My current rig is in my sig and honestly it is getting pretty slow. I know a quad will be overkill, what cpu do you think will be a good choice for me
 

SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
14,377
19
81
A low-end Sandy Bridge i3 will probably serve you well. Wait until they come out in the new year.
 

happy medium

Lifer
Jun 8, 2003
14,387
480
126
My current rig is in my sig and honestly it is getting pretty slow.

Your current rig is overkill for what you do. If I googled corectly it should have ....
•Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Dual Core Desktop Processor
•2GB PC2-5300 DDR2 Memory
•320GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
•16x DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Burner
•NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT Graphics with 256MB Memory
•Dell SE198WFP 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor

If this is correct, I suggest a fresh install of windows.
 

gevorg

Diamond Member
Nov 3, 2004
5,070
1
0
If you use IE8, then try a faster browser like Chrome, at least until IE9 comes out.
 

veri745

Golden Member
Oct 11, 2007
1,163
4
81
If you really want a new system, an Athlon II + mobo w/ onboard 42xx graphics makes a good budget general purpose system.

You could get either the dual core w/ 2x1mb L2 or a propus quad.

Or wait and see what Ontario/Zacate brings to the low-end.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,522
751
126
The current hardware is more than enough for websurfing. Just do a new install and get a SSD if anything will be the best performance increase you could do.
 

Bman123

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2008
3,221
1
81
The specs are
Pent D 3ghz dual core cpu
2gb 667mhz ram
320gb HD
Onboard video

You think s SSD and win 7 would be the best bang for the buck? Say a 64gb ssd and a 320gb new HDD?
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,522
751
126
The specs are
Pent D 3ghz dual core cpu
2gb 667mhz ram
320gb HD
Onboard video

You think s SSD and win 7 would be the best bang for the buck? Say a 64gb ssd and a 320gb new HDD?

i was going by happys specs with a core 2, the p4 is alot weaker. If i was you i would consider a i3 as mentioned above. I would not wait for SB though i would go 1156. There is absolutly no point in paying a premuim for a brand new cpu and mobo with sandy bridge just for web surfing. Grab a cheap H55 board and a i3 540 and 4GB of ddr3 and call it a day. The SSD is still a good idea.
 

airdata

Diamond Member
Jul 11, 2010
4,987
0
0
If you're wanting to do the system on a budget, I'd go w\ a mid-range AMD setup. You can get an Athlon II X2 for $40-50 or get an X4 for $75-110.
 

Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
21,503
9
0

TekDemon

Platinum Member
Mar 12, 2001
2,296
1
81
A fresh installation, Chrome, proper defragmentation with something like PerfectDisk or O&O, or buying an SSD as the boot drive would probably help make things feel snappier for you. If you can get a 60/64GB SandForce SSD on the cheap (under $100) I'd do it. Either look in the hot deals forum and wait for a sale or just go to Microcenter if you have one near you.
Don't defragment the SSD though, it's an either/or thing-defragment your hard drive but don't do it to a solid state disk since it produces insane amounts of wear.

If you have a Microcenter near you they're running pretty cheap AMD combos. I wouldn't bother with the cache-cut Athlons since they'll already feel pretty long in the tooth for a lot of things even if you overclock them sky high. The Phenom II X2 combo for $109.99 is a pretty awesome deal because you stand a pretty good shot of unlocking the other cores, and even if you don't, for what you're using it for the extra L3 Cache (and extra 6MB! versus the cacheless Athlons) is going to be a lot more useful. I'd say the odds of an unlock are pretty high anyway and it takes 2 seconds in the BIOS now.

http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundlePROMO.html
Personally I'd pay the extra $10 to get the 785GT-E63 if you have DDR2 lying around since it has 4 DIMM slots and takes higher powered CPUs (all the way up to the 1090T) which is great for overclocking headroom and of course it supports ACC and unlocking the extra cores. If you want DDR3 I'd probably get the A785G3, since it has nicer graphics than the other Biostar and supports ACC and core unlocking-the only thing is that there's only 2 DIMM slots but if you're buying DDR3 for the first time you can just buy 2x2GB sticks.
There's very little performance difference between DDR2 and DDR3 so if you already have 4GB of DDR2 lying around (or in the P4 system) I'd just use that. I got the 785GT-E63 bundle myself, unlocked the cores, and clocked it up to 4Ghz and you really can't beat that for $109.99. Well, I also had to buy a $20 heatsink from Microcenter-the ThermalTake Contac30 (basically a Hyper212+ from Thermaltake).
 
Last edited:

Bman123

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2008
3,221
1
81
I have a microcenter about 45 minutes away that I can go to. I am really thinking about getting a SSD. the MC brand one uses the sandfrce controller, it's 64gb and only $100 I believe. Plus maybe getting windows 7 for $100 while I am there.

Do you think a 64gb ssd would be enough as my only drive or would I need a new drive like a 320gb? I don't have squat for music maybe 3-5gb at the max, no movies at all either
 

Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
21,503
9
0
I would have a backup drive. SSDs are fast but to many issues for me to make it my ONLY drive.

I have 2 drives and copy from one to the other just in case. Upgrade main boot drive and old boot drive becomes backup and last drive goes to other computer or family.

Also pickup a new video card if keeping your current system. Get the cheapest thing that will fit your board (PCIe or AGP). That way you will free up some system memory since you have only 2gig.
 

TekDemon

Platinum Member
Mar 12, 2001
2,296
1
81
I have a microcenter about 45 minutes away that I can go to. I am really thinking about getting a SSD. the MC brand one uses the sandfrce controller, it's 64gb and only $100 I believe. Plus maybe getting windows 7 for $100 while I am there.

Do you think a 64gb ssd would be enough as my only drive or would I need a new drive like a 320gb? I don't have squat for music maybe 3-5gb at the max, no movies at all either
I'd use the SSD as your boot drive then just put the old HDD from the Dell into the new system as your storage drive for movies and music and that kinda stuff. Whatever it is it sounds like it's big enough for your uses already.
But HDDs are so cheap now if you wanna buy some 1TB drive it's only gonna be like an extra $70 anyway so it's really up to you. Doesn't sound like you need much more though, so you can likely just get away with using whatever's in the Dell to bump the storage up.

A nice trick I've learned (since I have many SSD systems) is to symlink certain folders over to your hard drive for apps that are basically using your primary drive to keep large files. For example, iTunes likes to store backup copies of your entire iPod or iPhone, and that can eat up 30GB of space on your boot drive, so if you go into the hidden folder where it's storing all that junk you can copy/move it to the hard drive then put a symbolic link there so that iTunes still sees the files as being on the SSD even though it's really on the HDD. Makes it a lot easier to keep apps on the main SSD without hitting the limit.

On a side note about random accessories, if you wanna upgrade your burner they have a $17.99 LG DVD burner (22x SATA) as well as a $21.99 Lite-ON. I think the LG is only on sale until today for that price though I'm not sure if it's as good as the Lite-ON. Either way it's just a cheap thing to consider if you need a DVD burner drive (dunno if you already have one in the Dell or not). And for heatsinks the Thermaltake Contac30 is on sale for $19.99 after rebate. I've gone to Microcenter the last 2 days just buying stuff. Sitting here on a Phenom II X2 that I unlocked to 4 cores and overclocked to 4Ghz with the thermaltake (which is a pretty big heatsink, though it does fit in my antec sonata)...pretty great deal since I recycled my old DDR2 so it was a hella cheap upgrade.

On the off chance that you don't just wanna play flash games they also have the Palit Sonic 1GB GTX 460 for $129.99 after rebate (i think it's $30 rebate).

Oh and if you have any kids in college I'd try to see if they can buy Windows 7 for cheap. Bought ultimate for $12.95 from my school (I'm not in college but medical students can buy them too).

Anyways, $109.99 for the Phenom II X2 combo with a good mobo, plus $50 if you don't have DDR2 lying around (they have 4GB DDR3 for $50 there I think, though you can buy online for $45 or so if you wanna save another few bucks), $19.99-$29.99 for a heatsink, and $99 for an SSD and you should be up and running with a blazing fast system. Even if the cores don't unlock you can hit 4Ghz pretty easy with a good heatsink, and if they do unlock even better.
 
Last edited:

Bman123

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2008
3,221
1
81
I think I will slap a new ssd in there and see what happens, if it is still slow as all hell then I will have to get windows 7 as my PC is a store bought and I don't think there is any way I can reinstall the vista unless you guys know how I can do that and want to help me
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
17,484
33
86
1. Get Windows 7 (consider getting 64-bit). If you do a major upgrade, you can kiss your Dell copy of Windows goodbye. You should be able to re-install Vista, but 7 is nice, and I would not want to go changing to a non-Dell mobo, without spare non-Dell OS options.

2. Given past experience, I wouldn't put much faith in a plain CPU upgrade, as the most available CPUs are likely newer than your PC's mobo.

3. TekDemon's last paragraph, since you have a Microcenter nearby. Going from a Pentium D to a Phenom II will be a serious upgrade, which you will feel even when web browsing.
 
Last edited:

BD231

Lifer
Feb 26, 2001
10,568
138
106
An extra 2 gigs of ram and a decent overclock would make that computer feel like new.
 

DominionSeraph

Diamond Member
Jul 22, 2009
8,386
32
91
An extra 2 gigs of ram and a decent overclock would make that computer feel like new.

Don't need 4GB with XP. My X2 5200+ with 2GB feels like new because I keep my startup free of anything but Microsoft Security Essentials and it's been defragged/Bootvis'ed.

OP probably just needs to format, then reinstall XP/SP3/drivers/Microsoft Security Essentials, then disable pagefile, then defrag and run Bootvis boot optimization, then reenable pagefile.
Standard install, IOW.
 

OBLAMA2009

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2008
6,574
3
0
A low-end Sandy Bridge i3 will probably serve you well. Wait until they come out in the new year.

this is probably the best advice. for really good web surfing today you need more than 3 ghz dual core in my experience (there is a noticeable difference between 3 and 2.5 ghz so i would avoid most core 2 at this point). you can get combo deals really cheap (like $50 for the chip and mb together after rebate). its so worthwhile, i couldnt even imagine how tortuous it would be to be using a p4 these days
 
Last edited: