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need a laptop.. decent GPU for gaming around, AMD the only option?

Obsoleet

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I'm looking at the ~500 pricepoint (sales and so forth), I have seen AMD laptops around this price that could play games well, but the NV parts seem to bring a significant cost on (prob due to having to deal with AMD/Intel to get in). How superior are the Intel laptops for battery life? I'm looking at a 14" laptop with a decent GPU.. probably a Radeon 4xxx series. Does the Radeon 4xxx in laptops accelerate VLC? I dont want a huge laptop or a big screen to kill my battery, and render the GPU even more worthless.

Looking for opinions on this. I'm in need of a laptop, and wouldn't mind having one that could play games like League of Legends.
 
Well, that's a whole bunch of questions all at once.

(1)- For gaming, AMD vs. Intel CPU is not too much of an issue, as most games will be GPU limited with the relatively weak notebook GPUs. In addition, although I normally recommend quad cores for desktop gaming because they're so cheap and generally as high on clock speed as the dualies, for notebooks I recommend dual-core. Most of the quads are way down in clock speed, while the dual cores are a bit snappier for single-threaded or dual-core optimized stuff. Some of the newer core i series chips do have turbo though, which does pick up some slack. Battery life once dramatically favored Intel, but it's pretty much a wash right now.

(2)- Radeon 4xxx series will definitely support h.264 in VLC/etc, along with flash acceleration.

(3)- Radeon 4xxx series is a very wide range of options. New, you're probably stuck at 4200IGP, which is not very good for gaming. A 3870 mobile for example is much much faster for gaming, while being a bit older.

(4)- Being large/having a big screen doesn't neccesarily mean low battery life. It just means that more energy is being used typically. The newer LED screens are more efficient with power than the older lamp-backlit screens. Instead of looking at screen size to determine battery life, look for reviews on specific models. For example, the HP DV7 series that I am buying was tested at 3+ hours battery life while playing hd video, which is very good for a 17.3" large notebook. It had an 8-cell battery, and I guess the cells must be pretty decent.

(5)- When you're gaming, the GPU will ramp up in speed, which will eat the battery more quickly. Even under good conditions (dark room where you can turn the brightness down some), running at full speed 3d mode for a while will result in what might not be a very long running time. Will you often be unable to find an outlet to jack into while playing your game? If this is something crucial to you, it might be worth looking at the upcoming AMD fusion platform. It could be awhile before its out, but it looks to promise performance at least on the level of current midrange notebook 3d GPUs, while consuming a lot less power.

(6)- This is just my personal opinion, but 14" is a painfully small screen size for gaming, and at the $500ish price level not only will you most likely be looking at shared/integrated GPUs like Core i3 or HD4200/4250, but the resolution will be 1280x800 or 1280x768.

(7)- I see you have a 5870 in your desktop. A notebook with even 1/3 of that performance is going to cost at least a grand, and the majority of notebooks with that kind of horsepower are in the 17"+ range.
 
I am looking for a strange beast. Smaller (15" tops) screen, with a midrange mobile card. I want low weight, less bulk and not something I'd game on much at all, but I'd like it to if possible. I don't want a completely neutered laptop.

If AMD has caught up in power usage, then that's great news. That was my main problem, I dont care if the performance is a little lower, as long as I get a better GPU and preferably without the Geforce + Intel switching thing they have out. Seems too redundant for my taste.

I know Sandybridge will be here in a number of months and give Intel a GPU that would probably be good enough for my needs, and Fusion is a little further off. That means for a cheap midrange laptop with a 4650 or so performance level I'm looking at AMD only
 
I think the new Dell Inspiron M101z (in the 12" sub-notebook category) is a solid fit with huge bonus points for being small and light but game capable. I hate lugging around huge notebooks and got pretty excited to see something in this form factor with a respectable set of specs, decent battery life and a travel friendly form factor.

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/inspiron-1121/pd?~ck=anav

$429 gets you the single core Athlon II Neo K125 1.7 ghz processor (1 meg cache), 2 gigs of RAM, embedded Radeon HD 4225 graphics, LED backlit (11.6," 1366 x 768) screen and a 250 gig 5.4k hard drive... bluetooth, webcam, card reader, HDMI port are all standard features

$550 nets you an upgrade to the dual core K325 (1.3 ghz, 2 meg cache), 4 gigs of RAM and a faster/larger 320 gig 7.2k RPM hard drive...

I assume if you wait you could find a coupon to knock the price down further... lots of benchmarks/reviews available if you Google the model. It takes standard DDR3 notebook DIMMS and 2.5" SATA/SSD drives (some known issue with Intel M-series though) if you prefer to DIY upgrade the base model.
 
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I have a spare X25-V, which isn't much different from the M series so I'm guessing I'm out of luck there.

That laptop does look about what I'm interested in though. I really don't want a huge beast of a laptop, but it needs to play games like Kings Bounty and League of Legends (shouldnt require much).
 
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