Need 70TB of Storage Space?

[GTaudiophile]

I know who has it!

 

[aircooled]

Yikes! 😱

 

[Yossarian]

a terabyte is just a thousand GB, right? that really doesn't sound like that much space these days for a business or school to use.

 

[Armitage]

Very cool ... saw it on Slashdot.
Wish they had more detail on the software end of things though.

On another note, that system is an excellent case study in hard drive reliability! Hopefully they'll publish something on their long-term failure rates.

 

[psy44]

Originally posted by: PipBoy
a terabyte is just a thousand GB, right? that really doesn't sound like that much space these days for a business or school to use.

I can't believe our middle/high school only uses a 200 gb hard drive for everyone on the school to share!

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: psy44

Originally posted by: PipBoy
a terabyte is just a thousand GB, right? that really doesn't sound like that much space these days for a business or school to use.

I can't believe our middle/high school only uses a 200 gb hard drive for everyone on the school to share!

Whats wrong with that? Do you have any idea how hard it is to use harddrive space as a storage mechanism? Unless you're doing some serious A/V or gathering large amounts of raw data (and I do mean a huge amount), harddrive space is virtually useless. Help me out, cause I cannot think of any reason why you would need a huge amount of harddrive space for legal means.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: PipBoy
a terabyte is just a thousand GB, right? that really doesn't sound like that much space these days for a business or school to use.

70,000 Gigabytes? I'd say that's a lot of space

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: PipBoy
a terabyte is just a thousand GB, right? that really doesn't sound like that much space these days for a business or school to use.

Are you serious? Do you know how much space 70,000 gigs is?

 

[GTaudiophile]

BTW, it's just 576 Maxtor 160GB harddrives in a massive RAID array.

From newegg.com: HD 160GB MAXTOR 6Y160L0 7200RPM 2MB OEM costs $169 (x 576 = $97,344).

Think ze Germans got a deal from Maxtor on those?

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BTW, it's just 576 Maxtor 160GB harddrives in a massive RAID array.

From newegg.com: HD 160GB MAXTOR 6Y160L0 7200RPM 2MB OEM costs $169 (x 576 = $97,344).

Think ze Germans got a deal from Maxtor on those?

They probably did - but keep in mind, the article says the system is a year old at this point. So even if they got a deal, the cost for an individual drive may not have been far off from what they're selling for now. They're using 5400RPM models as well. Lastly, the cost for the system as a whole was in the $450k range - so even at your stated price, all the drives made up less than 25% of the cost.

Nate

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Whats wrong with that? Do you have any idea how hard it is to use harddrive space as a storage mechanism? Unless you're doing some serious A/V or gathering large amounts of raw data (and I do mean a huge amount), harddrive space is virtually useless. Help me out, cause I cannot think of any reason why you would need a huge amount of harddrive space for legal means.

True for a school, but I have 250 GB of lossless FLAC files so far from ripping my CD collection, and will have used at least another 100 GB by the time I'm done. Plus another 350 GB for backup.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: dexvx

Whats wrong with that? Do you have any idea how hard it is to use harddrive space as a storage mechanism? Unless you're doing some serious A/V or gathering large amounts of raw data (and I do mean a huge amount), harddrive space is virtually useless. Help me out, cause I cannot think of any reason why you would need a huge amount of harddrive space for legal means.

True for a school, but I have 250 GB of lossless FLAC files so far from ripping my CD collection, and will have used at least another 100 GB by the time I'm done. Plus another 350 GB for backup.

Pardon me, but Holy Cr@p! What do you do with all the drives? a dedicated computer?

Nate

 

[BoberFett]

70 TB is a lot of space, but not unheard of. Large finanical institutions probably have huge amounts of storage. I'd imagine some of the larger databases on the web use many terabytes:

Google
Mapquest
TerraServer

Pretty soon at work, we'll be putting in an IBM FastT600 SAN with several terabytes of space, and we're not even a very big company.

Edit: Here's the FastT900 which scales to 32 TB and EMC makes systems that hit 70 TB.

 

[Sid59]

i dont need 70 TB but it would be nice.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: dexvx
you're doing some serious A/V or gathering large amounts of raw data (and I do mean a huge amount), harddrive space is virtually useless.

True for a school, but I have 250 GB of lossless FLAC files so far from ripping my CD collection, and will have used at least another 100 GB by the time I'm done. Plus another 350 GB for backup.

Pardon me, but Holy Cr@p! What do you do with all the drives? a dedicated computer?

Nate

I have a server box for development work that's also my music jukebox and player, I just moved it to an Antec SLK3700 case (5 HD bays, nice design). I currently have 2 x 250 GB (maxtor), 1 x 120 GB (IBM), 1 x 30 GB for OS partitions (since Partition Magic 4 -- which doesn't block server OSs -- doesn't support over 30 GB).

Right now I'm using the second 250 GB to mirror the first (copying not RAID) but I'll be either buying another couple of 120 GB's or a DVD burner to free up that drive for primary storage so I can finish ripping my collection (about another 300 CDs to go, plus new ones as they come out).

It's pretty sweet to be able to play any of about 750 CDs instantly, with true CD quality, just by scrolling down to the right folder.

 

[ChefJoe]

What moron is going to keep 70 TB of everyone's important data at one location ? Server/Building fire pwns j00!

[edit] I've heard of this stuff, but this university has talked about raid arrays of storage drives and boot drives, but nothing about off-site backups. Wouldn't they be better off putting half their hardware in a building across the street and linking the two with gigabit or fiber ?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: ChefJoe
What moron is going to keep 70 TB of everyone's important data at one location ? Server/Building fire pwns j00!

That's what redundancy and offsite backups are for, moron. Perhaps you don't realize how much information a large corporation has.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: ChefJoe
What moron is going to keep 70 TB of everyone's important data at one location ? Server/Building fire pwns j00!

That's what redundancy and offsite backups are for, moron. Perhaps you don't realize how much information a large corporation has.

LMFAO.
ChefJoe never heard of a tape drive.

I work at a plant with 500 employees and about 400 networked PC's.
Our file server only has 90GB. And that's on an IBM Raid array that probably cost about $20,000. Of course it's about 10 years old.

Kinda funny that my home PC has almost as much space as the file server for 400 PC's.
I guess Word and Excel documents take up a lot less space than an MP3 collection.

 

[zephyrprime]

The reason Dr. Koch preferred AMD to Intel, the darling of the server segment, was the fact that the Athlon processor has much shorter pipelines than the Pentium 4. That makes Athlons more efficient at handling the packet switching of the 3Ware controllers and TCP packaging for transmitting data over the network.

What the heck? This sounds like BS to me.

And I wonder if this guy is using any sort of raid 5 or 1.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: ChefJoe
What moron is going to keep 70 TB of everyone's important data at one location ? Server/Building fire pwns j00!

[edit] I've heard of this stuff, but this university has talked about raid arrays of storage drives and boot drives, but nothing about off-site backups. Wouldn't they be better off putting half their hardware in a building across the street and linking the two with gigabit or fiber ?

Who's to say they don't have offsite backup?

 

[ChefJoe]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: ChefJoe
What moron is going to keep 70 TB of everyone's important data at one location ? Server/Building fire pwns j00!

[edit] I've heard of this stuff, but this university has talked about raid arrays of storage drives and boot drives, but nothing about off-site backups. Wouldn't they be better off putting half their hardware in a building across the street and linking the two with gigabit or fiber ?

Who's to say they don't have offsite backup?

And who says they do ? My opinion : if the article talks about raid storage and raid 1 boot drives they'd be pretty messed up not to throw a line out about off-site backup, since that sort of thing would "ease" their only complaint in the tape storage section (from the tom's review).

I will not assume things that aren't in the articles, which prevents me from assuming they do have off-site storage and a duplicate array. It will also prevent me from assuming they got a corporate support from maxtor and amd for that lovely non-supported statement about pipeline lenght.

 

[Looney]

Well that's pretty ignorant of you to call somebody a moron when you have no clue.

 

[Jeff7181]

Are you guys actually arguing about what a company that you know nothing about has decided what's best for them? Geeze.

 

[FishTankX]

It said in the article that they used hot spares. If one drive fails then they just rebuild it from the rest of the network, onto the hotspare. Thus, alot of harddrives would have to fail, for them to loose any information.

Most probably RAID5, if they're using hotspares.

 

[gabegarwick]

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: dexvx

Whats wrong with that? Do you have any idea how hard it is to use harddrive space as a storage mechanism? Unless you're doing some serious A/V or gathering large amounts of raw data (and I do mean a huge amount), harddrive space is virtually useless. Help me out, cause I cannot think of any reason why you would need a huge amount of harddrive space for legal means.

True for a school, but I have 250 GB of lossless FLAC files so far from ripping my CD collection, and will have used at least another 100 GB by the time I'm done. Plus another 350 GB for backup.

Pardon me, but Holy Cr@p! What do you do with all the drives? a dedicated computer?

Nate

Hehe, that's actually my current home project. 🙂 I'm building a dedicated file server with RAID 5 for my MP3 collection.
5 x 160GB drives with RAID 5 = somewhere around 640GB usable. (building it that size to plan for growth --I don't want to have to rebuild it again in 9 months) 🙂

I'm not even doing video... that can/will eat up a lot of space. I could see filling up 2 TB with home video without too much difficulty. Most people I know doing the home video thing have a couple big drives, but then they edit the material and archive it to dvd-r.

cheers,
Gabe