Im looking for a decent 19" monitor that can do 1600x1200 at 85hz and a low dotpitch...Anyone know of a good ones? Where can I buy one. Seems places like bestbuy and circuitity only have lower end monitors... Im not really sure which brand is good or not either? Thanks for your help.
Need 19" monitor that can do 1600x1200 at 85hz any suggestions?
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Dorkenstein
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The samsung 997DF does 1600x1200 at only 76hz max.
Im looking for something that can do 1600x1200 with at least an 85hz refresh rate.
Im looking for something that can do 1600x1200 with at least an 85hz refresh rate.
I believe you will have to look at a 21" monitor to get that kind of a refresh rate on that resolution.
As for brands to look at: Viewsonic, Mitsubishi, NEC, iyama (I would say Sony as a first choice but not sure if they're still making 21" CRT's).
As for brands to look at: Viewsonic, Mitsubishi, NEC, iyama (I would say Sony as a first choice but not sure if they're still making 21" CRT's).
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My Viewsonic P95f can do it. It can actually do 1600x1200@92Hz, but my card doesn't like that.
Edit: Here is a picture, just so you have proof.
Edit: Here is a picture, just so you have proof.
And have you in fact tried a nice CRT in 1600x1200 @ 76 Hz? Did it give you a headache?
I think it's pretty funny that 75 Hz was seen as ideal a few years ago, but now it's just not good enough.
The ViewSonic G90F does 1600x1200 @ 77Hz, and it's a very good CRT if you don't want aperture grille. Most people don't use 1600x1200 on a 19" CRT, and most 19" CRT's that can do it at 85 Hz are high-end aperture grille screens, like the ViewSonic P95F:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-116-232
I think I'd still rather have an NEC FE991, which only does 1600x1200 @ 76Hz. The Mitsubishi DP930 can do 1600x1200 @ 88Hz, but that's getting a little pricey:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-002-220
I think it's pretty funny that 75 Hz was seen as ideal a few years ago, but now it's just not good enough.
The ViewSonic G90F does 1600x1200 @ 77Hz, and it's a very good CRT if you don't want aperture grille. Most people don't use 1600x1200 on a 19" CRT, and most 19" CRT's that can do it at 85 Hz are high-end aperture grille screens, like the ViewSonic P95F:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-116-232
I think I'd still rather have an NEC FE991, which only does 1600x1200 @ 76Hz. The Mitsubishi DP930 can do 1600x1200 @ 88Hz, but that's getting a little pricey:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-002-220
I have the 997DF right here. I just bought it yesterday at Best Buy.
It does do 1600x1200 at 76Hz, yes, but it looks FANTASTIC. This screen doesn't flicker at all either. I have very sensitive eyes and it is just fine for me.
If you have a lot of money, go for the DP930. If you don't have much, then don't plan on buying a 19in that can do that.
Aperture Grille and Shadow Mask are both equally good as the other. People say aperture grille looks better...well, they do look nice. But I can't really tell the difference, personally.
It does do 1600x1200 at 76Hz, yes, but it looks FANTASTIC. This screen doesn't flicker at all either. I have very sensitive eyes and it is just fine for me.
If you have a lot of money, go for the DP930. If you don't have much, then don't plan on buying a 19in that can do that
.Aperture Grille and Shadow Mask are both equally good as the other. People say aperture grille looks better...well, they do look nice. But I can't really tell the difference, personally.
I never said money was a problem. Just wanted to get something good. Dont care if I have to spend $300.
Yes, I was in the same situation a few years ago. I recently got a used Sony G400 from EBay for ~$100 which from what have found is about the best 19" monitor around (well actually that was around as they no longer manufacture that monitor).
You can also check www.iiyama.com, they have some very good 19" CRTs with very high horizontal syncs. One of their models can do 104 Hz at 1600x1200 and 86 Hz at 1920x1440!!
You can also check www.iiyama.com, they have some very good 19" CRTs with very high horizontal syncs. One of their models can do 104 Hz at 1600x1200 and 86 Hz at 1920x1440!!
How is that Sony G400? I found a seller in my area that is selling a few of them for around $100. Are they good monitors?
I have owned two 19" rather high end monitors. I have had an iiyama i90a and a Sony G400. I would have to say that the Sony is far and away the better monitor mostly as it is much more sharp with a finer dot pitch. I run mine at 1290x960 at 85 Hz. You should be able to run it at 1600x1200 as the dot pitch is very sharp. The iiyama does have much richer color reproduction however though the monitor is noticably less sharp. This is my experience with the i90a, the newer iiyama models have in their specs a finer dot pitch.
If you have found a G400 for around 100 bucks in your area I would HIGHLY suggest you check it out and purchase one. As you have found it is getting harder to find high end CRTs and I would say the G400 is in the top 15-20% (quality-wise) of 19" monitors made.
I guess I also should add that I am still a bigger fan of CRTs than LCDs. I like not being confined to one resolution and to not have to make any compromises when having a monitor with a very fast "response time".
my samsung 900NF runs 1600x1200 @ 85hz no problem. In fact, that is my default desktop resolution at the moment. If you can find one for a reasonable price, i would highly recommend it. Its an apature grille model btw, and i realize i probably didnt spell that correctly.
good luck finding something
good luck finding something
Hey, read my post in its entirety, okay?
I said that if you want a fantastic 19" one with no regard for how much you spend, then get the DP930. If you had been on a budget, the 997DF would be good. You didn't specify that you didn't care how much it was, and I clearly didn't assume you were on a budget. Jeez
I've seen in my own thread, and others, that some people chip in with questions as well. I was just trying to be helpful to everyone.
Carrot, throw in a pair of glasses too. You're going to need them if you stare at 1600x1200 on a 19" monitor for too long.
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I think that may be in the VESA specs, but most of the European ergonomic guidelines/specs suggest 85Hz as a minimum, AFAIK.
72/75Hz progressive was quite a step up back in the day, from someone used to a 14" *interlaced* CRT display. (As I used for years, 1024x768 @ 43i... is it a wonder I wear glasses?)
Nowadays, everyone is used to 70+Hz, so even a step up to 85Hz feels more "solid". At least to me.
It can also depend on the persistence of the phosphors used on the display. If they are longer-persistence, then you may have less of a "flicker" problem even at lower refresh rates. Conversely, a monitor with short-persistence phosphors needs a higher default refresh rate to avoid visible flickering. Also, larger display screens tend to flicker a little more than smaller ones, IMO. That's probably a subjective perception thing though.
That all said, I had a quite an upgrade from my 14", I got a 19" MAG, with default specs of 1600x1200 @ 66Hz max. I ran it (slightly overclocked) at 1600x1200 @ 70Hz, and adjusted the centering appropriately, since upping the refresh pushed the display over to the side a bit.
It had a very sharp picture though, no problem at all reading text at that resolution. At 1600x1200, it appeared to have a nearly 1:1 ration between pixels and phosphor groups. At the next step down, 1280x1024, it had nasty, horrid moire patterns, and 1024x768 is way too low-res for a 19" (IMO), so I kept it at 1600x1200. So even at 70Hz, 1600x1200, on the right monitor, can be quite bearable. However, I definately would have *much* preferred one running at 75-85Hz or higher instead.
Originally posted by: butch84
my samsung 900NF runs 1600x1200 @ 85hz no problem. In fact, that is my default desktop resolution at the moment. If you can find one for a reasonable price, i would highly recommend it. Its an apature grille model btw, and i realize i probably didnt spell that correctly.
good luck finding something
I have the same monitor on my other system. Does 1600x1200 @ 85hz and even comes with BNC capabilities!
-Jimbo
I have a Dell P991 that does 1600x1200 @ 85Hz.
I believed it's a Sony based Flatscreen Trinitron.
Also, being Dell, there will probably be lots of refurbs/second had monitors. If you want.
I have been using it for the last 3 or 4 years with no issues, the last 2 and a half have been at 1600x1200 @ 85Hz. (Before that it was used on a shared computer, so res wasn't so high for others)
I believed it's a Sony based Flatscreen Trinitron.
Also, being Dell, there will probably be lots of refurbs/second had monitors. If you want.
I have been using it for the last 3 or 4 years with no issues, the last 2 and a half have been at 1600x1200 @ 85Hz. (Before that it was used on a shared computer, so res wasn't so high for others)
Originally posted by: jimmygates
Originally posted by: butch84
my samsung 900NF runs 1600x1200 @ 85hz no problem. In fact, that is my default desktop resolution at the moment. If you can find one for a reasonable price, i would highly recommend it. Its an apature grille model btw, and i realize i probably didnt spell that correctly.
good luck finding something
I have the same monitor on my other system. Does 1600x1200 @ 85hz and even comes with BNC capabilities!
-Jimbo
I'm running the same rez setup right now as well. This monitor will soon be 4 yrs old, spent the majority of its years at 1152x864 @100Hz.
LG Flatron 915FT+ does 1600x1200 @ 89Hz, and it's $169.88, with dual inputs (VGA & 5-BNC) and USB hub.
Viewsonic P90f would probably be the next cheapest (new) with the same specs, usually around $270-$280.
There's also The Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454, a 19" which will do 1600x1200@106Hz, or 2048x1536@83Hz. For a much higher price of course.
Viewsonic P90f would probably be the next cheapest (new) with the same specs, usually around $270-$280.
There's also The Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454, a 19" which will do 1600x1200@106Hz, or 2048x1536@83Hz. For a much higher price of course.
Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Carrot, throw in a pair of glasses too. You're going to need them if you stare at 1600x1200 on a 19" monitor for too long.
I use 1920x1440 or sometimes 2048x1536 on a 19", both at home and at work.
Still have between 20/10 and 20/5 with my 22 year old prescription.
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