[NEC] Select refurb monitors 25-30% off, LCD2490WUXI2 ~$300 shipped and more

[darkewaffle]

http://www.necdisplay.com/communications/0212_Leap_Promo.html

Flyer for the promotion, I haven't checked out the other displays but the 2490 is a well regarded 24 inch, 1920x1200 monitor using an 6-bit e-IPS panel for only $300 shipped.

Personally I've only ever bought one monitor from them, a refurb 20WMGX2, but it's going strong two years later and when it got here you could have passed it off as NIB, it looked pristine and was very well packaged, it did have one easily ignorable dead pixel along the far left edge though.

 

[cytoSiN]

Nice! I've been waiting for something like this. Gotta read the fine print re: dead pixels though. Either way, thanks OP! :thumbsup:

 

[hotel77]

I mainly use my desktop monitor for PC and 360 gaming, so I did some research cause this is a really good price...this monitor has about 33ms of input lag, which is about 2 frames.

Not a "bad" monitor for gaming, but there are definitely better options if that's your main purpose.

 

[Sunny129]

Nice! I've been waiting for something like this. Gotta read the fine print re: dead pixels though. Either way, thanks OP! :thumbsup:

i'm having trouble finding the "fine print" on NEC's website that talks about dead pixels...

 

[alkemyst]

What is NEC’s pixel policy?

All of our display products meet ISO 13406-2 Class 2 specifications, which allow for a certain number of "pixel faults" based on the total pixels in the monitor. (Pixel faults include whole pixels or sub-pixels going dark, staying permanently lit or flashing.)

NEC is very good on replacing screens in their 90 series. I am not sure if the refurbs fall. I had 2 dead pixels and they overnighted me another monitor.

I have a WUXi, not the 2 version so I have the original polarizer.

 

[Sunny129]

thanks ^

i suppose i can always call and confirm whether or not that same policy applies to the refurbs as well...

 

[cytoSiN]

Sorry Sunny, I should have linked the dead-pixel policy in my first post. Let us know if you get an answer from NEC re: refurbs!

 

[Sunny129]

did some more digging...

taken from a [H]ardforum member who got through to NEC tech support:

The ISO 13406-2 standard allows for a certain number of pixel faults based on the number of total pixels in the monitor (determined by the native resolution). NEC/Mitsubishi will replace an LCD monitor under warranty if meets the following criteria:

For monitors with a native resolution of 1024x768 (typically 15" monitors):
- More than 2 dead pixel
- More than 4 stuck pixel
- More than 1 whole pixel or 2 sub-pixel fault in a 5x5 pixel square area

For monitors with a native resolution of 1280x1024 (typically 17, 19 or 20" monitors):
- More than 4 dead pixel
- More than 6 stuck pixel
- More than 1 whole pixel or 3 sub-pixel fault in a 5x5 pixel square area

For monitors with a native resolution of 1600x1200 (typically 21" or larger monitors):
- More than 6 dead pixel
- More than 9 stuck pixel
- More than 1 whole pixel or 4 sub-pixel fault in a 5x5 pixel square area

i haven't called NEC yet to see of the same policy applies to refurbs, but now i don't think i'm even going to bother...if a minimum of 7 dead pixels is required to warrant the repair or replacement of a 1920 x 1200 monitor, refurb or not, i'm not sure i'm really interested in the first place. however unlikely the worst case scenario may be, 6 dead pixels is alot to get stuck with...heck, even 2 is.

now i've never bought a refurbished LCD monitor before, and i've never had a problem w/ dead pixels. are dead pixels any more likely to show up on a refurbished monitor than a brand new one?

 

[cytoSiN]

SNIP
...are dead pixels any more likely to show up on a refurbished monitor than a brand new one?

Good question. I'd like to think they'd be less likely, since the refurbs have been fully vetted by NEC, and it would be pretty shady to intentionally sell a refurb that you KNOW has a bunch of dead pixels...but I also tend to assume the worst of big corporations, so I'm pretty skeptical in light of the rest of your last post.

 

[alkemyst]

did some more digging...

taken from a [H]ardforum member who got through to NEC tech support:



i haven't called NEC yet to see of the same policy applies to refurbs, but now i don't think i'm even going to bother...if a minimum of 7 dead pixels is required to warrant the repair or replacement of a 1920 x 1200 monitor, refurb or not, i'm not sure i'm really interested in the first place. however unlikely the worst case scenario may be, 6 dead pixels is alot to get stuck with...heck, even 2 is.

now i've never bought a refurbished LCD monitor before, and i've never had a problem w/ dead pixels. are dead pixels any more likely to show up on a refurbished monitor than a brand new one?

That is just the Wikipedia page regurgitated.

The Series 90 monitors have a special pixel clause.

I am not sure if it applies to refurbs, I was able to get my 0 hour refurb replaced a couple years ago when it had 2 dead pixels next to each other.

from that same HF page

http://www2.necdisplay.com/protectyourimage/quality.htm


Quote:
All NEC Display Solutions monitors have a zero whole pixel defect policy and adhere to the ISO 13406-2 standard. Any module that has three adjacent sub-pixels (whole pixel) in any order is considered non-ISO 13406-2 and defective and will not be used in our products.

The link is not resolving...but that was the policy in effect for my 2490WUXi

 

[darkewaffle]

Personally if I had a place/use for the 2490 I'd definitely get one. I'd love one for work but it would incur an ungodly amount of bitching lol, and I've already got a monitor I'm real happy with at home.

 

[paperfist]

Wow that panel is like $900 at newegg and one sold on ebay for $460 so $261 is a steal depending on shipping.

 

[isekii]

After Tax and shipping to NJ ends up being

639.71 USD

So about $320 a pop. I wish I could upgrade to these

 

[cytoSiN]

After Tax and shipping to NJ ends up being

639.71 USD

So about $320 a pop. I wish I could upgrade to these

The shipping costs are REALLY high. For that price, $320 each, you can get a new Dell 2412U (also a 16:10 IPS panel) with a full warranty. Is the NEC so much better that it warrants paying more for a refrub?

 

[Sunny129]

The shipping costs are REALLY high. For that price, $320 each, you can get a new Dell 2412U (also a 16:10 IPS panel) with a full warranty. Is the NEC so much better that it warrants paying more for a refrub?

well i just did some more digging and found that the NEC LCD2490WUXi2-BK does not have true 8-bit color, nor is it an H-IPS panel. rather it uses an 6-bit E-IPS panel made by LG (info courtesy of TFT Central). even though the NEC product page doesn't specify the panel type, it does specify the max displayable colors as 16.7 million, which kinda gives away the fact that it is not a wide gamut display utilizing an H-IPS panel...

this NEC model is not to be confused with the LCD2490WUXi or the LCD2490WUXi-BK (notice the 2nd "2" is missing from the p/n), both of which in fact use a true 8-bit H-IPS panel. but neither of these are the same as the model in the OP.

so in response to your question, i would say that you're probably better off going w/ the Dell U2412M.

 

[cytoSiN]

I'm pretty sure the Dell is an E-IPS too, or at least not an H.

 

[Sunny129]

I'm pretty sure the Dell is an E-IPS too, or at least not an H.

that is correct - the U2412M also utilizes a 6-bit e-IPS panel. sorry if it seemed like i was implying otherwise. my point is that i'd rather have the brand new U2412M w/ full warranty than the refurbished LCD2490WUXI2-BK w/ only 1-year warranty if they're going to be within $20 of each other when all is said and done.

 

[cytoSiN]

...i'd rather have the brand new U2412M w/ full warranty than the refurbished LCD2490WUXI2-BK w/ only 1-year warranty if they're going to be within $20 of each other when all is said and done.

Agreed. Thanks for all the info

 

[darkewaffle]

My mistake on the panels, I didn't realize there had been that differentiation made between the 2490WUXi and the 2490WUXi2. Updated OP to be more accurate.