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Nebraska played 6 bowl teams, 5 lost

dullard

dullard

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If the final BCS results came out today Nebraska would not be in the Rose bowl. Nebraska played TCU (big loss in bowl), Colorado (big loss in bowl), Kansas State (big loss in bowl) Iowa State (lost in bowl), Texas Tech (lost in bowl), and Oklahoma (won their bowl).

My computer ranking program as well as the offical BCS computers have dropped Nebraska's ranking due to these bowl games. Thus the strength of schedule, computer rankings, and quality wins would have all pushed Nebraska out of the Rose bowl. So if the BCS came out today, Nebraska wouldn't be number 2.

What is your opinion on this?
 


<< You'd rather have Oregon in the Rose? >>

Hell yes. They obviously are better than those Corn Fed Rubes from Nebraska.
 
perhaps but the BCS rating has numerous other factors just not strength of schedule alone. and i think both oregon and nebraska both deserve to be in the rose bowl. as far as the pac 10, i think the bowl representatives from the pac 10 lost the majority of there bowl games too.
 
Oregon showed that they deserved the spot by destroying CU yesterday. thereds obviously missed that game. If Nebraska wins, it's going to be a big mess for the title.
 


<< You'd rather have Oregon in the Rose? >>


I never stated any opinion. I'm just stating that IF the final BCS came out now, Oregon would be ahead of Nebraska.

To let you know, I go to school at Nebaska and I work within a 10 second walk from their stadium.

Now I will state my opinion: I truly think Nebraska is better than Oregon. However, I also think Florida and Texas are better than Nebraska. I'd put Florida in the Rose bowl over any other team. However the unwritten rule is that only 1 loss teams can go to the championship game. Thus Florida and Texas are disqualified. That leaves the 1 loss teams: Nebraska and Oregon (I think Florida will easily win tonight leaving Maryland out of the picture). Since I think Nebraska is better than Oregon, I must reluctantly say that Nebraska is where they deserve to be.



<< i think the bowl representatives from the pac 10 lost the majority of there bowl games too >>



Conference wins/losses so far
ACC: 4 /1
Big 10: 2 /4
Big 12: 3 /4
Big East: 3 /1
Conference USA: 1 /3
Mid-American: 2 /0
Mountain West: 2 /1
Pac-10: 2 /3
SEC: 4 /3
Sun Belt: 0 /1
WAC: 0 /2
 


<< Hell yes. They obviously are better than those Corn Fed Rubes from Nebraska. >>



And you know this how?

Because CU beat NU and CU lost to UO?
 
and Colorado lost to fresno state university...so shouldn't fresno state be playing for the championship...i thought not

the bcs will do what it does every year between seasons...tweak it's precious formula...and like every year they will come up wanting. The only fair way would be a mini playoff..conference champions only...sooo err..Buy bye nebraska...err Buy bye florida...err same to you Texas and Tennessee...

ok maybe we need a bit more than conference champions...maybe #1-8 in the espn/upi polls...sudden death elimination...that would be a max of 3 extra games for 2 schools and 2 extra for 4 schools...everyone else can go to minor bowl games
 


<< Oregon should be in the rose. Nebraska is gonna get blown out. >>



And how come you are so sure UO won't get blown out?

I'm not saying that they will or won't but you seem a little too confident.
 
Well CU Blew out the Huskers and the Ducks humiliated the CU Football program so yes, I think that's a pretty goods indication that the Ducks are a better team than the Huskers.
 


<< I think that's a pretty goods indication that the Ducks are a better team than the Huskers. >>



yes, I agree with you, but the transitive property doesn't always apply to football.
 


<< yes, I agree with you, but the transitive property doesn't always apply to football. >>

At least not in College football. OK, I think the Pro Style Offence of the Ducks would prove to be way to much for the Huskers to handle, especially as well as the Ducks run it.
 
If all goes as planned and Miami blows out NU thursday there will still be controversy. Oregon deserves to be in the Rose Bowl. Especially the way Oregon stomped on CU yesterday.

On another note, isn't it sad that there is not a Big-10 or PAC-10 team in the Rose bowl? 100 years of tradition thrown away, all for this BCS crap...not that any Big ten team deserved to be there this year, UM and Illinois looked pathetic yesterday.
 


<< the transitive property doesn't always apply to football. >>



Correct. Stanford beat Oregon, Washington beat Stanford, Texas beat Washington, Colorado beat Texas, Oregon beat Colorado, Stanford beat Oregon... The circles can go on forever. Thus you cannot use them.

Each team has strengths and weaknesses. Colorado obviously has strengths that match Nebraska's weaknesses. However, Oregon might not. Thus you cannot know if Oregon will beat Nebraska unless they play.

The best you can do is to look at their whole schedule and come up with an average rating. It isn't perfect, computers have been predicting only 60% of the bowl winners correctly. The coaches poll is doing even worse I think.
 
Just because Oregon beat CU badly doesnt mean they are better then Neb.. Heck, i care for neither team and ill tell you flat out I still think if CU and Oregon played 10 times in a row CU would win minimal of 6, maybe 7.

Heres an brain-scratcher for you.......

Florida State beat Georgia Tech badly, which in turn beat North Carolina badly, which in turn beat Florida State badly, which in turn beat Georgia T...............hmmm, which is the best team of the 3?

Team A beating team B which beat Team C doesnt mean Team A is better than C. It means Team A ( oregon) played their best game possible and Team B ( colorado) played absolutely awful. It happens, thats why they play the game.

Now go out and win games like that every year for 5-6 years and prove me wrong it was a fluke.
 
Well then Nebraska wouldnt be there . Their uniforms are both overly bland, and simplistically cool at the same time.
 
the thing that bothers me is that Nebraska wasn't number 1 going into the CU game, and they got clobbered, 62-36, yet they still don't move down a spot? How can you lose and give up 62 points and not slide down in the rankings? Oregon didn't lose their last game, how could they not have passed Nebraska?

 
Actually Nebraska was #1 in the BCS when they lost. They were number 2 in both AP and Coaches poll, but remember those only make up 12.5% each in the BCS.

I dont remember where Oregon was at that time , but id be willing to bet Neb was real far ahead of them in the BCS. Also remember, score doesnt mean everything when the computers figure out teams strengths. Neb got killed on the scoreboard but also put up 500 yards of offense themselves ( a guess). Secondly, Oregon didnt help themselves by barely beating half the teams they played.

So yes, they didnt lose their last game to Oregon State (4-7 team?), but they didnt help themselves by barely winning either ( 17-13 ??)
 
Ducks against Hurricanes. The image forecasts the results, but it would be a much more interestingly played game. They can actually throw. The ducks throwing against the hurricanes. Ah, at least Nebraska has better imagery. Quack, quack vs Hunh?, duh.
 
Why does everyone think that if you have one loss to a team that they are automatically far superior than the other. Nebraska's defense had ONE really bad game. The offense (or at least Eric Crouch) still did the job, scoring 36 points on CU. If there was a rematch Nebraska would probably hand Colorado their collective asses in a bag as long as the defense could stay awake. Oregon beating CU doesn't mean that they are as good as Nebraska either. In fact it doesn't mean they aren't as good as Nebraska. They didn't play. We don't know. We'll just wait and see how Nebraska's defense can hold up to Miami's offense. I think it's going to be a pretty high scoring game. If Miami can't stop the run then Nebraska will win. I think Miami is probably going to win although I'm a Nebraska fan, but Nebraska has a very good shot, as Oregon would have, but I personally think Nebraska is better than Oregon as well. The teams are where they should be skill wise, although game wise and fairness wise it sucks for Oregon.
 
James Ski

look at Oregons record the last three years. Sure they still have more to prove, but you can't talk about them as if they've never won before.

what was it, only 2 teams had better records than Oregon over that last 3 season.
 
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