'Near' Infinite Compression Possible

[Train]

It only works on special data that is all 0's.

beat me to it. But I was gonna say all 1's.

 

[bradley]

This would be a great story for The Onion to cover.

 

[TwiceOver]

Well, it's obviously a traffic generating scheme. The link should be scrubbed. It isn't even an accepted Slashdot story anyway. It's a submitted story, which anyone can do. The obvious BS will never be an accepted story. The OP is most definitely the person who submitted the BS story.

ATF is sadly really strong for SEO. I've accidentally had pictures I've posted end up on the first page of results for pretty generic terms in google image search before just by posting them in a popular thread.


Step 1: submit BS story and spam the internet with links to it.
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit

The missing step is "Sell to {insert company with assload of money here}"

 

[tommo123]

i could compress a 10TB video into something tiny right now. 1x1 pixel and extreme compression in x264. the file would be tiny.

that said, even if you could compress a video to that level, it's useless. when AVC video 1st came out we were screwed without coreavc at the time since our AMD x2s weren't capable of playing it without hitting 100% cpu usage from time to time. this level of compression would take ages and even longer to decode.

 

[Jeff7]

...
EDIT: Just followed the link in the slashdot page to the source. I'm actually starting to feel kinda bad so I'm not gonna give the full hack job, but suffice it to say that index score could go a lot higher. I'm guessing that this is a case of an amateur programmer having a cool idea about something along the lines of re-compressing compressed data, running it by a friend/colleague (the "student"), and then telling everyone how awesome it's gonna be before actually developing it.

There are also some people who think that they are programmers.
A guy where I work wanted to make a program that could effectively place, wire, and route simple circuits. He made a GUI, and then declared that he was mostly done with his project - all it needed was the stuff that would make the buttons do something.




(A piece of software for circuitboard work might cost $1k for a commercial license. Add at least another $500 for an adequate autorouter.)

 

[Drako]

Otherwise know as "Full Lossy Compression". :biggrin:

 

[Jeff7]

Otherwise know as "Full Lossy Compression". :biggrin:

Change your data to fit the compressor.

 

[Paratus]

Exactly. It's nice to see some technology from the Atlantis expedition making it into the civilian world finally.

I don't trust that guy. He blew up an entire solar system.

 

[Nintendesert]

I'm sure Adlep will be here soon to sell this crap to us too.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Revoking the way the universe works is not so easy.

 

[Ferzerp]

You store these compressed files on a WORN drive don't you? That's the only way it works?

 

[ImpulsE69]

You store these compressed files on a WORN drive don't you? That's the only way it works?

Write Once Read Never?

 

[Ferzerp]

Write Once Read Never?

Yup.

 

[Markbnj]

Otherwise know as "Full Lossy Compression". :biggrin:

Haha, excellent. I would just compress it to "lossfull." Has that geek zing to it.

"I've developed a new lossfull compression scheme!"

 

[Soundmanred]

Another related thread. (Note the username)
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2352664

 

[DaveSimmons]

in six months I should be able to link to it and push it to the public Internet.
The method should be public (patent expired) in around 2034,

Patents can be made "public" as soon as they are filed, so implying that the method must be kept secret until 2034 is another flare-lit tip off that this is a hoax, traffic troll or perhaps a prelude to a penny stock pump-and-dump.

 

[Tsavo]

Complete and utter bullshit.

A high school student is not going to break mathematics. There are theoretical limits to compression (unless you're not worried about uncompressing that data. Here's a compressed blu-ray of Pirates of the Caribbean, download it at your leisure: 0101001.

Actually, that's the DOTW (Day Of The Week) algorithm. On Monday, that file would be POTC. Tuesday, The Empire Strikes Back. Wednesday, my collection of BBQ recipes. Thursday, pictures of my Aunt Mildred naked. Et cetera.

 

[FAN13]

Its about damned time

 

[BladeVenom]

Will it match my perpetual motion machine?

 

[Daishiki]

Ohhhhh, lossy compression. Well, hell, let me compress my original compressed file of the Caribbean: 01
There. I compressed it a lot further. It's a bit lossy though.

I tried not to laugh out loud. My wife thought that I was having a seizure.

 

[Qacer]

This article certainly is more believable than this claim:
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/522831/a-breakthrough-for-speeding-satellite-feeds/

Satellite technology already includes some interesting methods to beef up service. But while the industry has deployed a number of technologies to improve “spectral efficiency,” companies have almost run out of tricks. “We’ve efficiently juiced a lot from all the other technologies we’ve used,” says Khan. “Network coding is a strong contender to boost further what we can do.”

Read another way, compression methods have been accounted as other technologies in satellite transmission, and this aspect has been optimized different ways already with no significant benefits. That's why they are looking at other ways of optimizing satellite transmission.

 

[ThinClient]

Complete and utter bullshit.

A high school student is not going to break mathematics. There are theoretical limits to compression (unless you're not worried about uncompressing that data. Here's a compressed blu-ray of Pirates of the Caribbean, download it at your leisure: 0101001 In fact, if it were possible to compress it to that data size, then if we compressed every movie ever made, There are only 128 possible compressed files.

(Edit: to the idiot sounding the alarm at the MPAA, not really - that was sarcasm)

Wtf does "near infinite" even mean? I don't even have to look at the OP's article to be fairly certain that the claims are bullshit. Invented by a high school student? Now I'm absolutely certain.

Here, this explains it in more detail at an easy to understand level:
http://matt.might.net/articles/why-infinite-or-guaranteed-file-compression-is-impossible/

I suppose I should probably be banning The OP simply on the grounds of spamming, but it seems that if anyone is going to tear his nonsense apart, it would be on a tech forum.

Since when is "0101001" equal to 1440KB?

 

[Drako]

Since when is "0101001" equal to 1440KB?

LOL wat? I see no floppy reference.

 

[ThinClient]

LOL wat? I see no floppy reference.

You didn't read the article that the thread starter linked, did you.

 

[Drako]

You didn't read the article that the thread starter linked, did you.

Why would I? :biggrin: