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Ndamukong Suh Thanksgiving II: The Nutcracker

Phoenix86

Phoenix86

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/11/22/ndamukong-suh-matt-schaub-thanksgiving-kick/1721035/

The Detroit Lions defensive lineman, voted the NFL's dirtiest player two years running, appeared to intentionally kick his left foot at the groin of Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub during the annual Thanksgiving game in the Motor City.

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Can't find a video yet, but it was obviously intentional.

Can we just ban this guy from football already?

edit: Found a video.
http://www.freep.com/article/20121122/SPORTS01/121122011/detroit-lions-houston-texans
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Aside from Suh should be banned the Lions should just walk off the field and forfeit the game.

The Texan player was clearly down.

That is not football, that is an officiating joke.
 
I just don't get why someone who has the ability, talent, and physical prowess like Suh resorts to such obviously dirty play.
 
dmcowen674 said:
Aside from Suh should be banned the Lions should just walk off the field and forfeit the game.

The Texan player was clearly down.

That is not football, that is an officiating joke.
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Well the Lions coach threw a challenge flag on a play that was clearly not a touchdown, making an official review (which would have happened automatically) impossible. I hope they lose by 7.

Also, an official was looking right at the play (as seen in the video). He had a bad angle but damn...
 
davmat787 said:
I just don't get why someone who has the ability, talent, and physical prowess like Suh resorts to such obviously dirty play.
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It's also weird because he comes across so well in interviews. Seems like a good guy off the field, but for some reason he sometimes loses control when out there.

KT
 
Suh obviously watches a lot of South Park. He was doing an Cartman impression, "I'll kick you in the nuts!"
 
dmcowen674 said:
Aside from Suh should be banned the Lions should just walk off the field and forfeit the game.

The Texan player was clearly down.

That is not football, that is an officiating joke.
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Horrible job, I was under the impression that all scoring plays are reviewable, what a joke that they can't rectify the obvious huge mistake..
 
BUTCH1 said:
Horrible job, I was under the impression that all scoring plays are reviewable, what a joke that they can't rectify the obvious huge mistake..
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It was a bad call for sure, but it would have been reviewed and turned over. The elbow was clearly down but the knee not so much (at live speed, replay showed it clearly down as well) so I can kind of forgive the refs a touch. That's why plays are reviewed.

However, you can't throw challenge flags on plays that are automatically reviewed. The penalty is 15 yards on the next play AND the play can no longer be reviewed. I think the "play can no longer be reviewed" is bullshit, but it's in the rules.

Schwartz scored 7 points on his own team for being a hot head. Maybe he should direct that passion towards Suh instead?
 
Phoenix86 said:
It was a bad call for sure, but it would have been reviewed and turned over. The elbow was clearly down but the knee not so much (at live speed, replay showed it clearly down as well) so I can kind of forgive the refs a touch. That's why plays are reviewed.

However, you can't throw challenge flags on plays that are automatically reviewed. The penalty is 15 yards on the next play AND the play can no longer be reviewed. I think the "play can no longer be reviewed" is bullshit, but it's in the rules.

Schwartz scored 7 points on his own team for being a hot head. Maybe he should direct that passion towards Suh instead?
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Yea, wow, I just found that out, a head coach should know the rules though, even the dumb one's. I was scratching my head thinking "WTF, all you see is automatic reviews nowadays", now I know why. Un-fuck-ing believable that Suh would do that, Goodell HAS to suspend him for this kind of cheap crap, I really think if the Lions had a different coach at this point they would be a much better team..
 
techs said:
I gotta tell you.
It was a helluva game to watch.
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Yea, not bad at all, if they want to tag 15 yrd penalty for the "illegal" flag toss, fine, in no way whatsoever should it stop the play from being reviewed, that's beyond dumb...
 
BUTCH1 said:
Yea, not bad at all, if they want to tag 15 yrd penalty for the "illegal" flag toss, fine, in no way whatsoever should it stop the play from being reviewed, that's beyond dumb...
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I'm not getting into that. What made the game exciting is both teams had chances to win it and both teams took away the other teams chances to win it.
 
The head coach should know better. He has the ultimate responsibility for his team and the assistant coach drop kicking the notebook after Schwarz's blunder basically tells it all.
 
waggy said:
lol they still should know the rules.


but it was a great game. Suh needs to be banned. teh guy sa damn dirty player.
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I honestly didn't think it was that big of an deal and wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt... BUT after going back and watching his bullshit of the past, I believe a suspension is in order.

The sad thing is, like someone mentioned (or was it an article?)... he seems like a genuine person in interviews and in person, but on the field he loses his cool too often and needs to be held accountable
 
Hit the dirty players where it hurts the most. Their pockets.

Suspense without pay a few games will bring back common sense. Whole season if need be.
 
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Elganja said:
I honestly didn't think it was that big of an deal and wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt... BUT after going back and watching his bullshit of the past, I believe a suspension is in order.

The sad thing is, like someone mentioned (or was it an article?)... he seems like a genuine person in interviews and in person, but on the field he loses his cool too often and needs to be held accountable
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going off his past and what he did last thanksgiving (stomping on someone) i believe he meant to do it. a few plays latter he also yanked down the QB too.
 
That throwing the red flag when it was already being reviewed stops any review is the stupidest penalty out there. I've seen coaches throw red flags when the play can't be reviewed and they just pick up the flag and explain it to the coach, but somehow doing it when it is already being reviewed is some sort of actionable offense? Why? How would doing so give someone an advantage or cause any harm to the game? It wouldn't even delay things because it's already being reviewed. Usually rules have some basis in reason. I don't see this.
 
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