NBC/WallSt Poll: Hillary now only leading Bern by 2 points in Cali!

[ivwshane]

I am, and I have to wear a helmet when I type on the internet.

You have an unhealthy obsession with Benghazi. That was a witch hunt. I've said as much repeatedly. I am willing to discuss how Obama and Clinton misread the situation in Libya as it evolved, but I never subscribed to the semantics or relevance of the videos that may or may not have triggered the embassy attacks

However the Benghazi witch hunt did expose an uncomfortable truth and that is the existence of a private server. The IG audit and FBI investigation are not republican witch hunts or politically motivated. So now:

Did Clinton violate policy in setting up the server. We now know the answer to that question is yes, although that in an of itself is not criminal, although we do know she inially lied about her rationale and approval to do so.

Did Clinton or her staff mishandle classified information? Doubtful, but I trust the FBI to handle that impartially.

Did Clinton setup her server to avoids FOIA accountability? Probably but intent is difficult to prove, although I am sure Judicial Watch will be conducting interviews and lines of attack for the next 10 years on this topic.

Of course what you fail to address is that of this was easily avoidable. Republicans did not setup up the server.

Had that been the point you originally made I would have had no problems with your post.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Clinton honorably conceded in 2008 after a hard-fought primary battle between her and then-senator Obama. Does anyone give her a credit for such showing of grace?

I shall wait until the primaries are over before commenting on Sanders.

It was the politically smart thing to do, grace had nothing to do with it, and I would love to know what back room negotiations and conditions happened between the two campaigns.

There is no next election for Sanders and he is a Democrat out of convenience. It seems his intent is to bring his message to the convention floor and is probably holding out solely to see what the FBI comes back with.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Well, the OP was correct again! Oh wait....

 

[nageov3t]

I'm taking this particular poll with a grain of salt either way, given that it's the first poll throughout the entire primary cycle that shows Clinton winning whites but losing minorities.

hey, I was actually right... Clinton ended up winning Hispanics in CA by 15 points and it's suspected that none of these polls showing a tight race were taking into account early voters.

Clinton and Sanders pretty much tied the same-day voters, but Clinton won early voters by like 30 points.

 

[buckshot24]

There is no next election for Sanders and he is a Democrat out of convenience. It seems his intent is to bring his message to the convention floor and is probably holding out solely to see what the FBI comes back with.

If she is indicted I doubt Bernie gets the nod.

 

[Painman]

It was a fine enough gambit by Sanders, but he now has no traction going into Philly.

But, what to do with this "Political Revolution?" It's real, it's not under Sanders' direct control, and it's coming to fuck up a local election near you.

 

[Jhhnn]

If she is indicted I doubt Bernie gets the nod.

Keep praying for a miracle. It's all you've got.

 

[Jhhnn]

It was a fine enough gambit by Sanders, but he now has no traction going into Philly.

But, what to do with this "Political Revolution?" It's real, it's not under Sanders' direct control, and it's coming to fuck up a local election near you.

Bernie represents the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. The only people being fucked up by his revolution are Republicans.

Democrats are all in favor of more progressive strength at the state & local level. It means we can field more winning progressive candidates.

 

[Subyman]

Looks like speedy's margin of error argument swung the other way.

 

[Painman]

Bernie represents the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. The only people being fucked up by his revolution are Republicans.

Democrats are all in favor of more progressive strength at the state & local level. It means we can field more winning progressive candidates.

>Democrats

>Republicans

An almost entirely artificial duopoly.

 

[theeedude]

There are a lot of people in California who like balanced Democratic policies, but don't like outright Socialism.

 

[Painman]

There are a lot of people in California who like balanced Democratic policies, but don't like outright Socialism.

Did you have a candidate on your ballot advocating for outright socialism?

 

[Lash444]

Did you have a candidate on your ballot advocating for outright socialism?

There is a reason that Fox News works so well.

 

[hal2kilo]

It was the politically smart thing to do, grace had nothing to do with it, and I would love to know what back room negotiations and conditions happened between the two campaigns.

There is no next election for Sanders and he is a Democrat out of convenience. It seems his intent is to bring his message to the convention floor and is probably holding out solely to see what the FBI comes back with.

Seems even his own people thinks he (Sander's) is delusional.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...der-the-bus-to-politico/ar-AAgMBik?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[woolfe9998]

Sanders is clearly having an emotional crisis which he is combating with denial. Because he did better than expected, he had convinced himself for a long while that he had a good chance of actually getting the nomination, but his expectations have not caught up with reality. Right now he is just being selfish and acting like a whiney child. He needs to grow up and do what is best for the party and the country because his behavior is tarnishing his own legacy.