NBA: Where Will Nets' Jason Kidd Play Next Year?

[First]

Just watched some SportsCenter and saw that Jim Gray had a nice long interview with Jason Kidd. It dealt with a few things, including the controversy about his wife and son and the comments made about them by Bob Ryan. One of the more intriguing comments Kidd made include how he would love to play for the Warriors because he would be back at home. He said he'd probably get in trouble for saying that, but he said it anyway. However, he followed up that comment with what I thought was the most interesting comment of the interview; he basically said "It's not about the money, I will consider playing for the team that tells me I'll win a championship with them." Those weren't his exact words, but very close. You can still catch SportsCenter now, the interview is played during the last 15-20 minutes of the SC broadcast.

So at this point it's clear that Kidd is:

1. Still considering leaving the Nets.
2. Will stay with the Nets if they win the championship this year.

It's interesting that Kidd specifically states that he doesn't care about money. This means that Kidd is willing to take a pay cut. With that in mind and knowing for a fact that Kidd wants to win a championship with or without the Nets, I think there's a good possibility that the championship contending teams (Spurs, Lakers, and Kings) could seriously pick up Kidd this summer. Of the three I'd say the Spurs or Lakers would be the most likely to pick up Kidd (besides the Nets of course).

What do you think will happen?

 

[arod]

I really hope the spurs dont take him, we already have parker which is getting valuable playoff experince and by next year will be as good as kidd if not better, plsu hes young and will give the spurs lots of great years, something kidd doesnt have too many of.

 

[murphy55d]

I'm not a basketball fan... so if this is a dumb question, excuse my ignorance... but how in the fsck could the lakers afford Shaq, Kobe AND Jason Kidd? I mean lets be real, Kidd may take a paycut but that doesn't mean he'll play for 2 million a year. Everyone always says "It's not about the money", too. I don't really believe him anymore than I believe anyone else who ever said that.

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

since he's a wife beater, he would fit in well with the blazers.

 

[LakAttack]

Maybe the T-wolves will make a run at him? He has to be thinking western conference if he wants a title, and the wolves are probably the best team in the west that has a need at point guard, and has a realistic shot at affording him.

I know it is the hip NBA rumor, but I really think LA is going to grab Malone (not Pippen), so they won't have the $$$.

 

[LeeTJ]

It's probably because i'm a nets fan, but i'd say the nets have the inside track.

whatever happens this year in the playoffs the nets will have to work to make the team better. IF they do make it better (what they need is a real half court scorer) than they have a better shot than anyone else to resign him.

he's got a great nucleus in NJ, Collins and A. Williams are MORE than adequate at center, KMart is a PRIME TIME defensive PF, Richard Jefferson is a GREAT slasher, what they need is a Great shooter at SG. Kittles just isn't it, he's too much the same as Jefferson, they can only keep one of those two in my mind to be good. I'd like to see them try and work out a trade with the knicks, Mutombo for Houston. Kidd, Houston, Jefferson, KMart and Collins. I think that team could do some SERIOUS damage.

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
It's probably because i'm a nets fan, but i'd say the nets have the inside track.

whatever happens this year in the playoffs the nets will have to work to make the team better. IF they do make it better (what they need is a real half court scorer) than they have a better shot than anyone else to resign him.

he's got a great nucleus in NJ, Collins and A. Williams are MORE than adequate at center, KMart is a PRIME TIME defensive PF, Richard Jefferson is a GREAT slasher, what they need is a Great shooter at SG. Kittles just isn't it, he's too much the same as Jefferson, they can only keep one of those two in my mind to be good. I'd like to see them try and work out a trade with the knicks, Mutombo for Houston. Kidd, Houston, Jefferson, KMart and Collins. I think that team could do some SERIOUS damage.

Houston's contract is too huge for the Nets to take on.
The Nets are better off with Kittles who is a slasher, unlike Houston who's a pure shooter with a mostly half court post-up game... won't be as good for an up-tempo fast break team like the Nets.

The Nets need a TRUE offensive minded player.
None of them can create offense by themselves and rely too much on Kidd to set them up for dunks.
This is a very bad thing if they're on one of their scoring droughts or if Kidd is on the bench.
Kittles/Harris (spot up shooters), Martin/Jefferson (alley's and dunks, no outside shot), (Williams/Collins) no post up moves.
If you ever watch the Nets with Kidd on the bench and Johnson at PG, you'll know what I'm talking about... it's plain ugly basketball.

If the Nets lose Kidd, they're easily a lottery team.

To answer the question, if the Nets win the championship, he'll most likely stay.
If they lose, he's probably gone.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: psteng19

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
It's probably because i'm a nets fan, but i'd say the nets have the inside track.

whatever happens this year in the playoffs the nets will have to work to make the team better. IF they do make it better (what they need is a real half court scorer) than they have a better shot than anyone else to resign him.

he's got a great nucleus in NJ, Collins and A. Williams are MORE than adequate at center, KMart is a PRIME TIME defensive PF, Richard Jefferson is a GREAT slasher, what they need is a Great shooter at SG. Kittles just isn't it, he's too much the same as Jefferson, they can only keep one of those two in my mind to be good. I'd like to see them try and work out a trade with the knicks, Mutombo for Houston. Kidd, Houston, Jefferson, KMart and Collins. I think that team could do some SERIOUS damage.

Houston's contract is too huge for the Nets to take on.
The Nets are better off with Kittles who is a slasher, unlike Houston who's a pure shooter with a mostly half court post-up game... won't be as good for an up-tempo fast break team like the Nets.

The Nets need a TRUE offensive minded player.
None of them can create offense by themselves and rely too much on Kidd to set them up for dunks.
This is a very bad thing if they're on one of their scoring droughts or if Kidd is on the bench.
Kittles/Harris (spot up shooters), Martin/Jefferson (alley's and dunks, no outside shot), (Williams/Collins) no post up moves.
If you ever watch the Nets with Kidd on the bench and Johnson at PG, you'll know what I'm talking about... it's plain ugly basketball.

If the Nets lose Kidd, they're easily a lottery team.

To answer the question, if the Nets win the championship, he'll most likely stay.
If they lose, he's probably gone.

IF the nets do Mutumbo for Houston, Knicks might even pay some of houstons salary for a couple of years. Knicks NEED this move more than the Nets to be honest. Knicks HAVE to start getting rid of some salary and they really need a center.

OK, if not Houston than Sprewell. Either way, it benefits the Knicks, hence the motivation to get it done. If nets get Spre, they will get someone who can create his own Offense AND a good shooter.

edit

If the nets got SPRE, i guarantee you Kidd would stay.

 

[astartz]

Nets sign him and trade him to Boston for Vin Baker.





I can hope cant I

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: astartz
Nets sign him and trade him to Boston for Vin Baker.





I can hope cant I

LoL Vin Baker.

I wish Mutumbo goes, and either Paytom, or Jermaine O'neal replace him. Maybe even Zo but i think it'll take more than just the 1year to get to where he use to be.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: astartz
Nets sign him and trade him to Boston for Vin Baker.





I can hope cant I

LoL Vin Baker.

I wish Mutumbo goes, and either Paytom, or Jermaine O'neal replace him. Maybe even Zo but i think it'll take more than just the 1year to get to where he use to be.

i like the play of collins and williams. having Zeke in there this year, even if it was only for a short time, showed me that a traditional center isn't going to work for the up tempo style of play they play.

 

[psteng19]

IF the nets do Mutumbo for Houston, Knicks might even pay some of houstons salary for a couple of years. Knicks NEED this move more than the Nets to be honest. Knicks HAVE to start getting rid of some salary and they really need a center.

Houston is the Knicks franchise player... very unlikely that they would move him.
Spree goes before Houston does, I'm pretty sure.
Houston came off one of his best, if not the best year of his career.
While Spree did the exact opposite, coming off one of his worst. He has proven to be very inconsistent.

The Knicks do not need a center to be contenders in the EAST.
If the Knicks do need a big man, Mutumbo is not the one.
They already have an injured one on the bench in McDyess; they do not need another one.
(I would be confident enough to say that if McDyess were healthy this past season, the Knicks are an easy 4th seed in the East).
Mutumbo is barely even being used in this playoffs, which goes to show what confidence they have in him.
I highly doubt anyone will trade for a 37 year old center on his decline, esp. for a budding all-star in his prime such as Houston.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: psteng19

IF the nets do Mutumbo for Houston, Knicks might even pay some of houstons salary for a couple of years. Knicks NEED this move more than the Nets to be honest. Knicks HAVE to start getting rid of some salary and they really need a center.

Houston is the Knicks franchise player... very unlikely that they would move him.
Spree goes before Houston does, I'm pretty sure.
Houston came off one of his best, if not the best year of his career.
While Spree did the exact opposite, coming off one of his worst. He has proven to be very inconsistent.

The Knicks do not need a center to be contenders in the EAST.
If the Knicks do need a big man, Mutumbo is not the one.
They already have an injured one on the bench in McDyess; they do not need another one.
(I would be confident enough to say that if McDyess were healthy this past season, the Knicks are an easy 4th seed in the East).
Mutumbo is barely even being used in this playoffs, which goes to show what confidence they have in him.
I highly doubt anyone will trade for a 37 year old center on his decline, esp. for a budding all-star in his prime such as Houston.

Nah, that's rampant speculation at best. You cannot say for certain the Houston and Thomas would have had such good years IF McDyess was getting his shots. You don't know what the chemistry of having McDyess in there would have done to or for the team. to say that they would have been 4th seed w/o a doubt is fan speculation.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: psteng19

IF the nets do Mutumbo for Houston, Knicks might even pay some of houstons salary for a couple of years. Knicks NEED this move more than the Nets to be honest. Knicks HAVE to start getting rid of some salary and they really need a center.

Houston is the Knicks franchise player... very unlikely that they would move him.
Spree goes before Houston does, I'm pretty sure.
Houston came off one of his best, if not the best year of his career.
While Spree did the exact opposite, coming off one of his worst. He has proven to be very inconsistent.

The Knicks do not need a center to be contenders in the EAST.
If the Knicks do need a big man, Mutumbo is not the one.
They already have an injured one on the bench in McDyess; they do not need another one.
(I would be confident enough to say that if McDyess were healthy this past season, the Knicks are an easy 4th seed in the East).
Mutumbo is barely even being used in this playoffs, which goes to show what confidence they have in him.
I highly doubt anyone will trade for a 37 year old center on his decline, esp. for a budding all-star in his prime such as Houston.

If Houston stays in the Knicks they really don't have much more money to spare for the guys they need in the other areas.
Plus it would be more beneficial for them to have a slasher rather than a shooter. Someone that will get to the basket rather than just take outside shots.

Mutumbo hasn't seen much of the playoffs because he wasn't really necessary. Why would you put in a cold turkey when Collins and Williams are getting it done night in an night out.
Kinda stupid don't you think ? Why take the chances.

And even if the knicks had a healthy center, I highly see them even making the 4th seed. They'll take I think more than a year to just get into the team chemistry.
Look at the Nets. They didn't just do it overnight. One player has made the difference for the Nets but with that one person other teammates actually all teammates have gotten better.

Anthony Johnson is one person that comes into my mind. He runs like a chicken with his head cut loose but he's actually pretty good. He makes most of his shots. Doesn't turn over the ball that much. He can actually take the ball into the paint. What more can you ask for ?

I'm glad they resigned him.

But as much as kidd is a factor for the Nets, I don't see Antonio Mcdycee being that person for the knicks.

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: psteng19

IF the nets do Mutumbo for Houston, Knicks might even pay some of houstons salary for a couple of years. Knicks NEED this move more than the Nets to be honest. Knicks HAVE to start getting rid of some salary and they really need a center.

Houston is the Knicks franchise player... very unlikely that they would move him.
Spree goes before Houston does, I'm pretty sure.
Houston came off one of his best, if not the best year of his career.
While Spree did the exact opposite, coming off one of his worst. He has proven to be very inconsistent.

The Knicks do not need a center to be contenders in the EAST.
If the Knicks do need a big man, Mutumbo is not the one.
They already have an injured one on the bench in McDyess; they do not need another one.
(I would be confident enough to say that if McDyess were healthy this past season, the Knicks are an easy 4th seed in the East).
Mutumbo is barely even being used in this playoffs, which goes to show what confidence they have in him.
I highly doubt anyone will trade for a 37 year old center on his decline, esp. for a budding all-star in his prime such as Houston.

Nah, that's rampant speculation at best. You cannot say for certain the Houston and Thomas would have had such good years IF McDyess was getting his shots. You don't know what the chemistry of having McDyess in there would have done to or for the team. to say that they would have been 4th seed w/o a doubt is fan speculation.

Everything is speculation.

The Knicks lost a lot of close games this season, as they always do (close meaning games decided by 1 possession).
McDyess brings to them a true post-up presence, which will give the rest of them even better 3 point looks... the Knicks are already one of the leagues best 3 shooting teams; they're #2 I think behing the Mavs (?).

He also brings athleticism to them, which neither Thomas, Harrington and Weatherspoon have.
That means more fast breaks, dunks, and offensive rebounds.

We can argue this for days, since it is speculation, but you can't argue that any GM in their right minds would trade for Mutumbo at this point.
I personally thought it was a huge mistake when the Nets traded for him. He's already showed in previous years that he's just as effective on Shaq as any other center. Plus he's slow and old and ruins the team chemistry.

If Houston stays in the Knicks they really don't have much more money to spare for the guys they need in the other areas.
Plus it would be more beneficial for them to have a slasher rather than a shooter. Someone that will get to the basket rather than just take outside shots.

Mutumbo hasn't seen much of the playoffs because he wasn't really necessary. Why would you put in a cold turkey when Collins and Williams are getting it done night in an night out.
Kinda stupid don't you think ? Why take the chances.

And even if the knicks had a healthy center, I highly see them even making the 4th seed. They'll take I think more than a year to just get into the team chemistry.
Look at the Nets. They didn't just do it overnight. One player has made the difference for the Nets but with that one person other teammates actually all teammates have gotten better.

Anthony Johnson is one person that comes into my mind. He runs like a chicken with his head cut loose but he's actually pretty good. He makes most of his shots. Doesn't turn over the ball that much. He can actually take the ball into the paint. What more can you ask for ?

I'm glad they resigned him.

But as much as kidd is a factor for the Nets, I don't see Antonio Mcdycee being that person for the knicks.

The Knicks were banking on McDyess being heathly and that didn't happen.
They're going to acquire other players by trades (Spreewell), not signing.

Johnson hits shots, I'm not arguing that, but have you watched the overall offensive possessions of the Nets when he's on the floor?
No leadership ability... they have no direction when he's playing PG.

I really hope the spurs dont take him, we already have parker which is getting valuable playoff experince and by next year will be as good as kidd if not better, plsu hes young and will give the spurs lots of great years, something kidd doesnt have too many of.

Forgot to comment on this earlier.
Parker is a long way away from Kidd caliber, if ever possible.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: psteng19

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: psteng19

IF the nets do Mutumbo for Houston, Knicks might even pay some of houstons salary for a couple of years. Knicks NEED this move more than the Nets to be honest. Knicks HAVE to start getting rid of some salary and they really need a center.

Houston is the Knicks franchise player... very unlikely that they would move him.
Spree goes before Houston does, I'm pretty sure.
Houston came off one of his best, if not the best year of his career.
While Spree did the exact opposite, coming off one of his worst. He has proven to be very inconsistent.

The Knicks do not need a center to be contenders in the EAST.
If the Knicks do need a big man, Mutumbo is not the one.
They already have an injured one on the bench in McDyess; they do not need another one.
(I would be confident enough to say that if McDyess were healthy this past season, the Knicks are an easy 4th seed in the East).
Mutumbo is barely even being used in this playoffs, which goes to show what confidence they have in him.
I highly doubt anyone will trade for a 37 year old center on his decline, esp. for a budding all-star in his prime such as Houston.

Nah, that's rampant speculation at best. You cannot say for certain the Houston and Thomas would have had such good years IF McDyess was getting his shots. You don't know what the chemistry of having McDyess in there would have done to or for the team. to say that they would have been 4th seed w/o a doubt is fan speculation.

Everything is speculation.

The Knicks lost a lot of close games this season, as they always do (close meaning games decided by 1 possession).
McDyess brings to them a true post-up presence, which will give the rest of them even better 3 point looks... the Knicks are already one of the leagues best 3 shooting teams; they're #2 I think behing the Mavs (?).

He also brings athleticism to them, which neither Thomas, Harrington and Weatherspoon have.
That means more fast breaks, dunks, and offensive rebounds.

We can argue this for days, since it is speculation, but you can't argue that any GM in their right minds would trade for Mutumbo at this point.
I personally thought it was a huge mistake when the Nets traded for him. He's already showed in previous years that he's just as effective on Shaq as any other center. Plus he's slow and old and ruins the team chemistry.

Boston acquired Vin Baker. need i say more?

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: FrontlineWarrior
since he's a wife beater, he would fit in well with the blazers.

LMAO.

Well most players always is "it's not about the money" but it doesn't mean much. He said the same thing pretty much last year, and he ended up going East Coast (the crappiest east coast area of them all), when he stated he wanted to stay West Coast w/ the weather. He took the money to say the least.

That being said, I don't think he would work with the Lakers. They do have about 5mil to spare or so, but then they would have absolutely no room for anybody else in another position. Furthermore, they would STILL suffer in the power forward position and they are far too much of a half-court team. And please, NO Karl Malone.

I still say he goes to the Spurs if he wants a shot at the ring. Frenchman Tony Parker still sucks IMO, and as I said before, will never even come close to Jason Kidd.

 

[LakAttack]

Jeez, the fanboys are out in force. "Hey Knicks - what do you say we give you our crappy, overpaid, slow, rapidly declining in skillz center for your best player? Deal?" If the Nets need a spot-up shooter, they can have Glen "dog" Robinson from the Hawks. How about "dog" for Richard Jefferson?

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: LakAttack
Jeez, the fanboys are out in force. "Hey Knicks - what do you say we give you our crappy, overpaid, slow, rapidly declining in skillz center for your best player? Deal?" If the Nets need a spot-up shooter, they can have Glen "dog" Robinson from the Hawks. How about "dog" for Richard Jefferson?

call it what you want, the knicks have been shopping spree around the league all season long.

it also addresses a specific need of the knicks. they lack a true center.

 

[Storm]

I dont think the Houston for Mutumbo wont happen. A trade Mutumbo+Kittles for Sprewell + cap filler would seem more plausible but I dont think that would happen.

Mutumbo has a huge contract but he's not playing so that lowers his value. Sprewell is still worth something besides the bad contract and bad attitude.

psteng19, have you not seen the improvement by Martin and Jefferson? They still have a ways to go but improvement is better than staying stagnant. I think how Martin and Jefferson develop will play an important role to Kidd's decision.

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: Storm
I dont think the Houston for Mutumbo wont happen. A trade Mutumbo+Kittles for Sprewell + cap filler would seem more plausible but I dont think that would happen.

Mutumbo has a huge contract but he's not playing so that lowers his value. Sprewell is still worth something besides the bad contract and bad attitude.

psteng19, have you not seen the improvement by Martin and Jefferson? They still have a ways to go but improvement is better than staying stagnant. I think how Martin and Jefferson develop will play an important role to Kidd's decision.

Mutumbo + Kittles for Spree + ? wouldn't happen. The Knicks don't need yet another shooting guard unless they plan to trade him afterwards, which wouldn't make sense since Spree is better trade bait.

Spree's attitude is not a problem at all. He is a fan favorite, always signing autographs, and has a great reputation with reporters and even the refs.

Martin and Jefferson have both definitely improved, by a lot, esp. Jefferson's jump shot which was poor, at best, last season.
Martin has always been an excellent defender, but other than his dunks, his offense is still non-existant.
Once in awhile he'll get his lucky lil hook shot in, but have you ever seen him try to drive to the basket? He'll dribble twice, jump into secondary defenders, then fling up this wild shot that caroms hard off the backboard with no chance of going in. He also has no jump shot from any range, further than 6 feet

They both have a lot of potential, esp. together on a team with Kidd.
But they have a lot of work to do this off-season if they ever want to be a premier duo (Jeff/Martin) in the league.

This years finals will decide where Kidd goes.
I think with the Lakers/Shaq out of the playoffs, any of the 4 remaining teams have a decent shot to win it, with a slight edge to the either of the 2 west teams.
But I wouldn't be too surprised if one from the East wins either.

I still say Spurs + Kidd > Lakers/Shaq/Kobe, and the best chance at a championship ring.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: psteng19

Originally posted by: Storm
I dont think the Houston for Mutumbo wont happen. A trade Mutumbo+Kittles for Sprewell + cap filler would seem more plausible but I dont think that would happen.

Mutumbo has a huge contract but he's not playing so that lowers his value. Sprewell is still worth something besides the bad contract and bad attitude.

psteng19, have you not seen the improvement by Martin and Jefferson? They still have a ways to go but improvement is better than staying stagnant. I think how Martin and Jefferson develop will play an important role to Kidd's decision.

Mutumbo + Kittles for Spree + ? wouldn't happen. The Knicks don't need yet another shooting guard unless they plan to trade him afterwards, which wouldn't make sense since Spree is better trade bait.

Spree's attitude is not a problem at all. He is a fan favorite, always signing autographs, and has a great reputation with reporters and even the refs.

Martin and Jefferson have both definitely improved, by a lot, esp. Jefferson's jump shot which was poor, at best, last season.
Martin has always been an excellent defender, but other than his dunks, his offense is still non-existant.
Once in awhile he'll get his lucky lil hook shot in, but have you ever seen him try to drive to the basket? He'll dribble twice, jump into secondary defenders, then fling up this wild shot that caroms hard off the backboard with no chance of going in. He also has no jump shot from any range.

They both have a lot of potential, esp. together on a team with Kidd.
But they have a lot of work to do on the off-season if they ever want to be a premier duo (Jeff/Martin) in the league.

This years finals will decide where Kidd goes.
I think with the Lakers/Shaq out of the playoffs, any of the 4 remaining teams have a decent shot to win it, with a slight edge to the either of the 2 west teams.
But I wouldn't be too surprised if the one from the East wins either.

I still say Spurs + Kidd > Lakers/Shaq/Kobe, and the best chance at a championship ring.

HEY, don't knock my boy KMart. actually i've seen him hit quite a few jump shots. plus he shoots free throws pretty well.

KMart is a potential superstar.

 

[Storm]

KMart's jump hook is getting better. I think the main problem with him is he really doesnt know what he wants to do so it really looks like he pulled something out of his @ss when he goes up like that. He has hit longer jumpers farther than 6ft otherwise the nbc reporters and espn wouldnt be saying he's improved.

 

[Elbryn]

I dont think kidd will go to the spurs this year. With parker improving and being very young, the spurs will probably go after jermaine oneal. Mutombo's career i'd venture to say is about done. The man is old, non mobile, and isnt rebounding/blocking anywhere near what he used to. Lakers have no money left over, they're already near the cap after kobe, shaq, fisher, and fox contracts. No way they'd be able to afford kidd.

edit- can you imagine what the spurs would be like if they waited a year to get a free agent and picked up KG?
lol a starting lineup of KG, Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, and Jackson or rose... wow heh

 

[Sid59]

As a Bay Area resident, i'd love to see Kidd come back to the warriors, though that isn't much of a Championship claiber team. Though they almost made the playoffs. But in the west, you've got to be pretty good to make the playoffs.