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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Guys, it's a cultural thing, not a race thing. Look at what sports are popular with what groups (speaking generally, of course), then look at the racial makeup at the pro level. Pretty similar eh? Of course, this could all be very different 20 years down the road according to the ebb and flow of the popularity of various sports. Golf is mostly a white sport right now, but there was a big surge in popularity amonst minority players thanks to Tiger. 10 years from now that could mean a lot of non-white kids are picking up golf at a young age. More people playing increases the likelyhood that some really talented players will emerge and change the profile of the pro golf ranks.

Problem with this argument is that GOLF IS NOT A SPORT!
Oooooo. Now you've stepped in it.

/knocks chip off CPA's shoulder

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What necisseraly makes the black race more athletic than any other race? I know many individuals from each race that are very athletic, more so than others. I think the whole black people are physically stronger and what not is myth. Ive seen some VERY fat and out of shape black people. Not that all are. Again, I really think its an individual thing, not a racial thing. Not much different from a black man to a white man or an asian man or any other kind of man other than color.

That being said, some have already answered why there are more black players. The base to draw them from. And in the recent 3-4 years? Owners and managers are drafting from a large base of white players overseas. Its all about the base. (EDIT) Should it be found that chihuahuas play better ball, thats what well see.

Of course, I could be entirely wrong.

Xcrown
 
Originally posted by: joe678
black ppl are generally more athletic than other groups...once they have access to a sport they generally excel and take it over (ie. basketball, football, baseball, track & field, etc).

golf and hockey are generally still white sports, but c'mon how many blacks have access to golf/hockey equipment and courses/rinks (very expensive sports) ...once they do watch out!

Must be the extra muscle in their calves, right?
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Originally posted by: Xcrown
What necisseraly makes the black race more athletic than any other race? I know many individuals from each race that are very athletic, more so than others. I think the whole black people are physically stronger and what not is myth. Ive seen some VERY fat and out of shape black people. Not that all are. Again, I really think its an individual thing, not a racial thing. Not much different from a black man to a white man or an asian man or any other kind of man other than color.

I would have to agree with the bolded.
 
I think some white people feel threatened by the success of black athletes in professional sports, so they will come up with thousands of excuses for why they have no crossover dribble.
 
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: Fausto1

Explain to me how black people are "more athletic" than other groups despite the fact that we're all the same species?

Aren't the muscle fibers of African Americans more tightly wound making them (in a sense) better natural athletes?

Thought i heard that somewhere, or something similar. I really don't know.
They tend to have a higher % of fast-twitch muscle fiber that white people do. More fast-twitch muscle fiber means greater potential for explosive (anaerobic) movement.

An example: a muscle sample from the leg of a power lifter would show a high % of fast-twitch fiber. A sample from a marathoner would show a high % of slow-twitch fiber.

 
Originally posted by: Fausto1

They tend to have a higher % of fast-twitch muscle fiber that white people do. More fast-twitch muscle fiber means greater potential for explosive (anaerobic) movement.

An example: a muscle sample from the leg of a power lifter would show a high % of fast-twitch fiber. A sample from a marathoner would show a high % of slow-twitch fiber.

That's exactly what I was thinking of, just couldn't remember it. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: joe678
black ppl are generally more athletic than other groups...once they have access to a sport they generally excel and take it over (ie. basketball, baseball, track & field, etc).

golf and hockey are generally still white sports, but c'mon how many blacks have access to golf/hockey equipment and courses/rinks...once they do watch out!
Explain to me how black people are "more athletic" than other groups despite the fact that we're all the same species?


they are more into sports in general then say, online gaming, computer modding, online arguing, etc..
 
Originally posted by: joe678
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: joe678
black ppl are generally more athletic than other groups...once they have access to a sport they generally excel and take it over (ie. basketball, baseball, track & field, etc).

golf and hockey are generally still white sports, but c'mon how many blacks have access to golf/hockey equipment and courses/rinks...once they do watch out!
Explain to me how black people are "more athletic" than other groups despite the fact that we're all the same species?


they are more into sports in general then say, online gaming, computer modding, online arguing, etc..
Being into a sport doesn't make you more likely to excel at a professional level. I'm really into cycling, but no way in hell will I ever be picked up by a pro team.

 
Originally posted by: Fausto1

Being into a sport doesn't make you more likely to excel at a professional level. I'm really into cycling, but no way in hell will I ever be picked up by a pro team.

NO kidding. Last i checked pro teams require uniforms...not thongs or assless chaps.

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: joe678
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: joe678
black ppl are generally more athletic than other groups...once they have access to a sport they generally excel and take it over (ie. basketball, baseball, track & field, etc).

golf and hockey are generally still white sports, but c'mon how many blacks have access to golf/hockey equipment and courses/rinks...once they do watch out!
Explain to me how black people are "more athletic" than other groups despite the fact that we're all the same species?


they are more into sports in general then say, online gaming, computer modding, online arguing, etc..
Being into a sport doesn't make you more likely to excel at a professional level. I'm really into cycling, but no way in hell will I ever be picked up by a pro team.

no, but a larger group of individuals into a certain sport would more likely produce a few at professional level as opposed to a small group
 
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
Originally posted by: mpitts
Black people are generally better at basketball.

More like there are MORE black players that are better than the white ones.

Simple answer.

Any sport is like is that.

Why are there more white hockey players? Because not too many black people are good at hockey.
How do you know they're not? They really don't play hockey so you can't say they're not any good at it.

Damn you guys are dense sometimes.

That's my point. Look at MORE.

There are MORE blacks that are better than whites in basketball, therefore, there are more blacks playing in the NBA.

In hockey, there are more WHITES that are better than blacks are there not?

DID I say it's because they have some have genetic problem that inhibits them from playing hockey at a high level? NO

Thanks for reading :brokenheart:
 
Quoting from the immortal NAT X from SNL:

Top 5 reasons why black guys don't play hockey:
5). It's too cold out there
4). Don't wanna lose that gold tooth
3). Don't wanna be around a bunch of white guys with sticks
2). Don't wanna be around a bunch of white guys with masks
1). They don't want to dominate, yet another sport.
 
I think if you side towards the opinion that a certain race could be in general more athletic, that coincides with the idea that a certain race could be more intelligent.

If you have one, you have the other.
 
My thought is that basketball is very popular in the inner city because you only need a few people to play, it requires very little equipment, and you can put a court almost anywhere.

The inner city population has been predominantly black for a long time, so I think more black kids have spent their youth playing basketball and honing their skills. I think this has more to do with their dominance of the NBA than any genetic reason. Look at soccer, that is a physically demanding sport that requires many bursts of speed, yet the best players come from all kinds of different races.
 
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: Fausto1

Explain to me how black people are "more athletic" than other groups despite the fact that we're all the same species?

Aren't the muscle fibers of African Americans more tightly wound making them (in a sense) better natural athletes?

Thought i heard that somewhere, or something similar. I really don't know.
They tend to have a higher % of fast-twitch muscle fiber that white people do. More fast-twitch muscle fiber means greater potential for explosive (anaerobic) movement.

An example: a muscle sample from the leg of a power lifter would show a high % of fast-twitch fiber. A sample from a marathoner would show a high % of slow-twitch fiber.

I think the main word would be TEND, although Im not even sure about that. There are plenty of people of all races that enjoy a higher fast-twitch ratio than others. My own brother is a "sprinter" while Im a "long distance runner". I still think its much more a cultural thing than an actual physical thing. Of course...those black NBA players are awesome althetes (at least most of them)....as are most of the white ones.....oh, and asian ones too. What else? There is one hispanic no? and Slavic? Although I think thats considered white....

anyways...splurge off.

Xcrown

Just to addon, thats why Kenyans and other Africans are good marathon runners, its all in the culture and upbringing, while a majority of black american youth grows up playing basketball.
 
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
Originally posted by: mpitts
Black people are generally better at basketball.

More like there are MORE black players that are better than the white ones.

Simple answer.

Any sport is like is that.

Why are there more white hockey players? Because not too many black people are good at hockey.
How do you know they're not? They really don't play hockey so you can't say they're not any good at it.

Damn you guys are dense sometimes.

That's my point. Look at MORE.

There are MORE blacks that are better than whites in basketball, therefore, there are more blacks playing in the NBA.

In hockey, there are more WHITES that are better than blacks are there not?

DID I say it's because they have some have genetic problem that inhibits them from playing hockey at a high level? NO

Thanks for reading :brokenheart:
I see what you're saying, but you worded it badly.
Why are there more white hockey players? Because not too many black people are good at hockey.

Saying not too many black people are good at hockey implies they're not good at it because they're black.....not because there just aren't a lot who play the sport. See? There might be a ton potentially great black hockey players out there, they just haven't ever picked up a stick.


 
Originally posted by: BigSmooth
My thought is that basketball is very popular in the inner city because you only need a few people to play, it requires very little equipment, and you can put a court almost anywhere.

The inner city population has been predominantly black for a long time, so I think more black kids have spent their youth playing basketball and honing their skills. I think this has more to do with their dominance of the NBA than any genetic reason. Look at soccer, that is a physically demanding sport that requires many bursts of speed, yet the best players come from all kinds of different races.

I agree. Sure you could say that perhaps there is enough evidence throughout most of the major sports that black athletes seem to be faster or stronger overall compared to their white counterparts, but it's impossible to calculate how social conditions affect this.

After all, I don't think any of us are arguing that since most upper management positions are filled by white males and have done so for a long time, it must mean that white males are "better made" for this kind of position. It's obvious that there have been a lot of social elements contributing to this.
 
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
Originally posted by: BigSmooth
My thought is that basketball is very popular in the inner city because you only need a few people to play, it requires very little equipment, and you can put a court almost anywhere.

The inner city population has been predominantly black for a long time, so I think more black kids have spent their youth playing basketball and honing their skills. I think this has more to do with their dominance of the NBA than any genetic reason. Look at soccer, that is a physically demanding sport that requires many bursts of speed, yet the best players come from all kinds of different races.

I agree. Sure you could say that perhaps there is enough evidence throughout most of the major sports that black athletes seem to be faster or stronger overall compared to their white counterparts, but it's impossible to calculate how social conditions affect this.

After all, I don't think any of us are arguing that since most upper management positions are filled by white males and have done so for a long time, it must mean that white males are "better made" for this kind of position. It's obvious that there have been a lot of social elements contributing to this.


Yes, I agree completely. Ive still to see what one "race" can do better than the other. I sure havent find anything.

Xcrown
 
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
I think if you side towards the opinion that a certain race could be in general more athletic, that coincides with the idea that a certain race could be more intelligent.

If you have one, you have the other.


Interesting indeed.... anyone care to comment on this?

 
Saying not too many black people are good at hockey implies they're not good at it because they're black.....not because there just aren't a lot who play the sport. See? There might be a ton potentially great black hockey players out there, they just haven't ever picke up a stick.

Ah, but just because there are a lot of potentially black hockey players out there, doesn't mean there are.

I'm addressing the question, "why is the nba predominately african american?"

And my answer is simply that at this current stage, there are more blacks that play basketball better than whites. Yeah, worded a bit strangely perhaps, but I just mean if you have 350 player slots available, there are more of the better black players that take away slots from the white ones. Hey, that's the tough thing about reading- you interpret how you want to interpret, not necessarily the actual meaning of the author.
 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
I think if you side towards the opinion that a certain race could be in general more athletic, that coincides with the idea that a certain race could be more intelligent.

If you have one, you have the other.


Interesting indeed.... anyone care to comment on this?

Something like this can obviously cause debate.

But say you believe that a race could be more athletic, but that a race could NOT be more intelligent.

That would mean that one race would be better than another.

Hey if all races are equal, except one race is stronger, faster, etc., then people would start arguing that that race is a superior race. It's happened before.....and we all know how that worked out :disgust:

I personally am scared at these kind of arguments, because I'm scared at what it could mean for society if these kind of ideas were promoted in the world.
 
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
Originally posted by: mpitts
Black people are generally better at basketball.

More like there are MORE black players that are better than the white ones.

Simple answer.

Any sport is like is that.

Why are there more white hockey players? Because not too many black people are good at hockey.
How do you know they're not? They really don't play hockey so you can't say they're not any good at it.

Damn you guys are dense sometimes.

Reality check here... if they don't play a sport then the odds are pretty good that they aren't going to be good at that sport.
 
Originally posted by: RudeBoie
Saying not too many black people are good at hockey implies they're not good at it because they're black.....not because there just aren't a lot who play the sport. See? There might be a ton potentially great black hockey players out there, they just haven't ever picke up a stick.

Ah, but just because there are a lot of potentially black hockey players out there, doesn't mean there are.

I'm addressing the question, "why is the nba predominately african american?"

And my answer is simply that at this current stage, there are more blacks that play basketball better than whites. Yeah, worded a bit strangely perhaps, but I just mean if you have 350 player slots available, there are more of the better black players that take away slots from the white ones. Hey, that's the tough thing about reading- you interpret how you want to interpret, not necessarily the actual meaning of the author.
Right, but I'm just pointing out why there are more black players that are talented than white; because there are more black people playing in the first place. If we assume 2% of all people who get into a sport have the potential to play it at the highest level, 2% of a lot of black people playing bball is a bigger number than the 2% of white people playing right now. As I said before, this could change depending on what sport captures the public imagination in the coming years. Professional cycling was the dominant sport at the turn of the century....there used to be thousands of velodromes around the US.

 
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