NBA All-Star MVP

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: DaShen
He definitely is top 3 in the NBA for centers today, but that isn't saying much because there are not many good centers in the league right now. You put Yao against Shaq, Motumbo, or Olajuwan when they were younger and you would have a total blowout. Shaq is leaps and bounds better than Yao, but the year before last year he couldn't start because all of the people from China voted for Yao in to start. :roll: No doubt he is in the top 3, I am just sick of people from China saying he is totally awesome. Clutchcity is filled with them now. He isn't a superstar, just a great 2nd option player, and he will get consistent numbers. I would pick Shaq or Stoudemire any day of the week over Yao if we are just talking about winning games and not making money.

Yao did deserve to go to the All Star game, but he didn't deserve to start the last two years. This year, he deserved to start, but before, come on.

i agree. he will NEVER be a shaq or an olajuwon...and those who expect that will be sorely disappointed. however, he is the best center in the west.

amare is a freaking unbelievable athlete, but he is a true power forward

 

[Rip the Jacker]

Originally posted by: GeneValgene

Originally posted by: DaShen
He definitely is top 3 in the NBA for centers today, but that isn't saying much because there are not many good centers in the league right now. You put Yao against Shaq, Motumbo, or Olajuwan when they were younger and you would have a total blowout. Shaq is leaps and bounds better than Yao, but the year before last year he couldn't start because all of the people from China voted for Yao in to start. :roll: No doubt he is in the top 3, I am just sick of people from China saying he is totally awesome. Clutchcity is filled with them now. He isn't a superstar, just a great 2nd option player, and he will get consistent numbers. I would pick Shaq or Stoudemire any day of the week over Yao if we are just talking about winning games and not making money.

Yao did deserve to go to the All Star game, but he didn't deserve to start the last two years. This year, he deserved to start, but before, come on.

i agree. he will NEVER be a shaq or an olajuwon...and those who expect that will be sorely disappointed. however, he is the best center in the west.

amare is a freaking unbelievable athlete, but he is a true power forward

Agreed. =)

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

point taken. duncan could very well play center - and you're right...he plays like one many times. but the fact is he still plays power forward...ever since he entered the league alongside david robinson.

for sure i'd take duncan over yao any day

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

Nobody has ever been able to guard Shaq. I don't hold that against anyone. Just like nobody could ever guard MJ or Wilt.

 

[Rip the Jacker]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

No one can guard Shaq. Except maybe Motumbo, and Olajuwon in their prime. But Shaq in his prime.... no one can touch him.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

Nobody has ever been able to guard Shaq. I don't hold that against anyone. Just like nobody could ever guard MJ or Wilt.

i think Wilt could have guarded shaq and probably russel too but i can't think of a center in the modern era that could have effectively guarded shaq of 4 or 5 yrs ago.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

No one can guard Shaq. Except maybe Motumbo, and Olajuwon in their prime. But Shaq in his prime.... no one can touch him.

i doubt either of those guys could have done it. MB sabonis in his prime (much older than shaq).

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

No one can guard Shaq. Except maybe Motumbo, and Olajuwon in their prime. But Shaq in his prime.... no one can touch him.

i doubt either of those guys could have done it. MB sabonis in his prime (much older than shaq).

Wasn't Sabonis more a finesse player? He didn't seem very strong and I don't remember how good he was defensively. All I remember was he had a nice shot, passed real well, had bum knees and cried alot.

 

[ShadoWing]

the all star game was kinda stinky tho....good players and some good plays, but overall, it was kinda disappointing imo

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

No one can guard Shaq. Except maybe Motumbo, and Olajuwon in their prime. But Shaq in his prime.... no one can touch him.

i doubt either of those guys could have done it. MB sabonis in his prime (much older than shaq).

I am a huge Spurs fan and hated it when the Rockets gave it to San Antonio during the mid-90's. I think Olajuwon could contain Shaq, but I don't think Shaq could have guarded Olajuwon at all.

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

No one can guard Shaq. Except maybe Motumbo, and Olajuwon in their prime. But Shaq in his prime.... no one can touch him.

i doubt either of those guys could have done it. MB sabonis in his prime (much older than shaq).

I am a huge Spurs fan and hated it when the Rockets gave it to San Antonio during the mid-90's. I think Olajuwon could contain Shaq, but I don't think Shaq could have guarded Olajuwon at all.

Rockets sweep Magic 4-0 in 95 finals, nuff said, Olajuwon pwned Shaq 🙂

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: EKKC
yea i dont think duncan, stoudamire are true centers. they are PF positioned at 5 because the team doesn't have that big man.

True centers are Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Yao, Eddy Curry, etc.

True centers play defense. True centers block shots.

Duncan averages 1 more block per game than Yao. In addition to averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists.
Funny how people like to say he "really isn't a true center" to make their case.

Well, I guess he isn't a "true center" like Yao, but he is a better big man. He does everything that a center does better than Yao.

oh ya, let's compare a early 20's shaq to an experience at the prime of his career Hakeem. that always works. i'm sure MJ as a rookie was already better than Magic Johnson and Larry Bird put together too.

1 on 1 vs shaq, I don't think he'll survive long. Thats why he never guards shaq.

No one can guard Shaq. Except maybe Motumbo, and Olajuwon in their prime. But Shaq in his prime.... no one can touch him.

i doubt either of those guys could have done it. MB sabonis in his prime (much older than shaq).

I am a huge Spurs fan and hated it when the Rockets gave it to San Antonio during the mid-90's. I think Olajuwon could contain Shaq, but I don't think Shaq could have guarded Olajuwon at all.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

I am a huge Spurs fan and hated it when the Rockets gave it to San Antonio during the mid-90's. I think Olajuwon could contain Shaq, but I don't think Shaq could have guarded Olajuwon at all.

Neither player could contain the other in the 1995 Finals. Shaq outplayed Olajuwan, but not by much.
Akeem won the MVP because his team won, but he had the better team.

Nobody in the history of the sport could guard Shaq when he was in his prime. Not Wilt, not Kareem, definitely not Russell.
Wilt admitted that he needed help to guard Kareem.
Mutumbo couldn't guard Shaq. Mourning couldn't. Robinson couldn't. Nobody could.

Shaq is just a big, big man, and he is pretty mobile for a big man. If he kept the exact same skills, and only grew to 6'9", he would have never even made the NBA.
But, he's 7'1", so that puts him as one of the best ever because of that massive size.


And Yao can't now, even though Shaq is older and past his prime.

 

[EKKC]

look at this ESPN sportsnation poll
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2030

where the hell is San Antonio😕

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: EKKC
look at this ESPN sportsnation poll
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2030

where the hell is San Antonio😕

LOL

 

[JASANITY]

Looks like I'm right about Yao being the best Center in the West too. Years of basketball paying off, haha. Move over Charles, Kenny and token!

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: EKKC
look at this ESPN sportsnation poll
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2030

where the hell is San Antonio😕

bahaha, apparantly they're not good

 

[Shlong]

Yao has been beastly for my fantasy team since the all-star break, Video from NBATV: http://nba-boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/fantasy/fantasy_yao_060226.asx