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Formulav8 approached me about putting together some benchmark numbers to see what effects NB overclocking would have on a Propus chip (he is testing an L3-less dual-core K10 . . . Rana I think?). Here are the results at four different NB speeds:
Here are some newer numbers to show the effects of NB clocks on applications that tax the video card (somewhat, more on this below):
I was going to create graphs and such, but found it somewhat tedious compared to just cutting and pasting the data in a post. I'm so lazy.
edit: formulav8 made some graphs using my data. Not 100% complete but I'm not complaining.
http://www.vbcodesource.info/graphs/drmrlordx/
(did not embed jpgs with img tags to avoid slow loads).
Thanks for the graphis, formulav8!
edit edit: I have added the above extra benchmark results to show what happens when you raise NB speed when running applications that tax the video card. Unfortunately, my monitor will not support resolutions higher than 1280x1024, so that's the best I can do; however, that was only really a factor in the Trackmania Nations Forever benching.
It seems that the benchmark showing the greatest benefit from NB speed is Cinebench R10 OpenGL. R11.5, not so much.
edit edit edit: Added 3DMark Vantage scores. Highly inconsistent. I couldn't generate enough trial keys to do enough runs to normalize data, but it seems like there's a lot of noise involved.
Anyway, as you can see, there are gains to be had, though it should be noted that they are not amazing; still, I did not expect NB speed to play much of a role in Propus' performance (and I certainly did not expect memory read and write numbers to be affected by it). Also, my Cinebench R10 single CPU results are a bit odd in that they seemed to go up as NB speed decreased after a certain point. How odd. The highest NB speed still gave me the best single CPU and multi CPU scores so that was as expected.
Blender scores were generated using an optimized 32-bit build of version 2.5 alpha 2 while rendering a test file known as test.blend: http://www.eofw.org/bench/test.blend?PHPSESSID=819e1c2b501ae28ff68c17f67b1a8a69
Another bizarre finding was that Cinebench R11.5 had to be run at a LOWER vcore than other benchmarks because the heat from high vcore settings made it unstable at speeds of 3.7 ghz or higher. I am planning to improve my cooling on this chip to see what positive results can be had from dropping a few more degrees @ load.
Also, this should demonstrate, without a doubt, that Propus just can't hang with Deneb at the same clock speed. With a better IMC, maybe it could, but as it stands, it is simply inferior. Propus MIGHT be competitive in benchmarks/applications with an enormous working set, but I haven't found anything to demonstrate that possibility (yet).
3705.3 mhz, 285 mhz HTT, 2850 HT Link
DDR3-1520 6-7-5-15 1T
NB: 2850.2 mhz
Everest Read: 10597 Write: 5325 Latency: 37.0 ns
superPi mod 1.5 XS 1M: 20.951s B43F7FA9 32M: 18m 25.449s 7BF80A1
Cinebench R10 1 CPU: 4014 x CPU: 14259 Multiprocessor Speedup: 3.55x
Fritz Chess Relative Speed: 18.70 Kilo nodes per second: 8976
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) CPU: 16,661
ScienceMark 2.0 Overall: 2416.89
Cinebench R11.5 CPU: 4.24
7-zip 32MB Dictionary size, Passes 10 Total CPU Usage: 369% Total Rating/Usage 3658 MIPS Total Rating: 13521 MIPS
TrackMania Nations Forever 228 fps (1024x768, all settings none/lowest/fastest except anisotropic 2x, 8800GTX)
Blender: 8.57
PiFast43 32m (standard settings, largest FFT): 84.40 seconds
NB: 2565.1 mhz
Everest Read: 10088 Write: 5029 Latency: 38.6 ns
SuperPi mod 1.5 XS 1M: 21.044s C823DABA 32M: 18m 34.232s 89C45805
Cinebench R10 1 CPU: 3948 x CPU: 14198 Multiprocessor Speedup: 3.60x
Fritz Chess Relative Speed: 18.46 Kilo nodes per second: 8859
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) CPU: 16,337
Sciencemark 2.0 Overall: 2380.94
Cinebench R11.5 CPU: 4.18
7-zip 32MB Dictionary Size, Passes 10 Total CPU Usage: 368% Total Rating/Usage: 3583 MIPS Rating: 13218 MIPS
TrackMania Nations Forever 225 fps (1024x768, all settings none/lowest/fastest except anisotropic 2x, 8800GTX)
Blender: 8.64
PiFast43 32m (standard settings, largest FFT): 85.02 seconds
NB: 2280.1 mhz
Everest Read: 9797 Write: 4791 Latency 39.1 ns
SuperPi mod 1. XS 1M: 21.216s 552086B3 32M: 18m 37.882s 62D890E1
Cinebench R10 1 CPU: 3959 x CPU: 14072 Multiprocessor Speedup: 3.55x
Fritz Chess Relative Speed: 18.40 Kilo nodes per second: 8833
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) CPU: 16,065
Sciencemark 2.0 Overall: 2350.44
Cinebench R11.5 CPU: 4.16
7-zip 32MB Dictionary Size, Passes 10 Total CPU Usage: 371% Total Rating/Usage: 3576 MIPS Total Rating: 13296 MIPS
TrackMania Nations Forever 223 fps (1024x768, all settings none/lowest/fastest except anisotropic 2x, 8800GTX)
Blender: 8.66
PiFast43 32m (standard settings, largest FFT): 85.77 seconds
NB: 1995.1 mhz
Everest Read: 9093 Write: 4617 Latency: 41.2 ns
SuperPi mod 1.5 XS 1M: 21.388s FEE1B54B 32M: 18m 52.921s F5A8B5E1
Cinebench R10 1 CPU: 3973 x CPU: 13993 Multiprocessor Speedup: 3.52x
Fritz Chess Relative Speed: 18:30 Kilo nodes per second: 8785
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) CPU: 15,688
Sciencemark 2.0 Overall: 2320.70
Cinebench R11.5 CPU: 4.12
7-zip 32MB Dictionary Size, Passes 10 Total CPU Usage: 373% Total Rating/Usage: 3502 MIPS Total Rating: 13123 MIPS
TrackMania Nations Forever 217 fps (1024x768, all settings none/lowest/fastest except anisotropic 2x, 8800GTX)
Blender: 8.68
PiFast43 32m (standard settings, largest FFT): 86.36 seconds
Here are some newer numbers to show the effects of NB clocks on applications that tax the video card (somewhat, more on this below):
NB: 2850
CineBench R10 OpenGL: 4486 CB-GFX
CineBench R11.5 OpenGL: 35.29 fps
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) GFX: 19,515 Overall: 123,030
Trackmania Nations Forever 60.5 fps (1280x1024, all settings high, 8x antialiasting, anisoptropic 16x, 8800GTX)
3DMark Vantage CPU Score: 33736 Graphics: 7274 Overall: P9049
NB: 2565
CineBench R10 OpenGL: 4182 CB-GFX
CineBench R11.5 OpenGL: 34.97 fps
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) GFX: 19,185 Overall: 120,761
Trackmania Nations Forever 60.1 fps (1280x1024, all settings high, 8x antialiasting, anisoptropic 16x, 8800GTX)
3DMark Vantage CPU Score: 34047 Graphics: 7270 Overall: P9050
NB: 2280
CineBench R10 OpenGL: 3975 CB-GFX
CineBench R11.5 OpenGL: 34.45 fps
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) GFX: 18,822 Overall: 117,997
Trackmania Nations Forever 59.8 fps (1280x1024, all settings high, 8x antialiasting, anisoptropic 16x, 8800GTX)
3DMark Vantage CPU Score: 33985 Graphics: 7267 Overall: P9044
NB: 1995
CineBench R10 OpenGL: 3951 CB-GFX
CineBench R11.5 OpenGL: 33.58 fps
Aquamark3 (64-bit patch) GFX: 18,672 Overall: 116,992
Trackmania Nations Forever 59.3 fps (1280x1024, all settings high, 8x antialiasting, anisoptropic 16x, 8800GTX)
3DMark Vantage CPU Score: 33537 Graphics: 7291 Overall: P9064
I was going to create graphs and such, but found it somewhat tedious compared to just cutting and pasting the data in a post. I'm so lazy.
edit: formulav8 made some graphs using my data. Not 100% complete but I'm not complaining.
http://www.vbcodesource.info/graphs/drmrlordx/
(did not embed jpgs with img tags to avoid slow loads).
Thanks for the graphis, formulav8!
edit edit: I have added the above extra benchmark results to show what happens when you raise NB speed when running applications that tax the video card. Unfortunately, my monitor will not support resolutions higher than 1280x1024, so that's the best I can do; however, that was only really a factor in the Trackmania Nations Forever benching.
It seems that the benchmark showing the greatest benefit from NB speed is Cinebench R10 OpenGL. R11.5, not so much.
edit edit edit: Added 3DMark Vantage scores. Highly inconsistent. I couldn't generate enough trial keys to do enough runs to normalize data, but it seems like there's a lot of noise involved.
Anyway, as you can see, there are gains to be had, though it should be noted that they are not amazing; still, I did not expect NB speed to play much of a role in Propus' performance (and I certainly did not expect memory read and write numbers to be affected by it). Also, my Cinebench R10 single CPU results are a bit odd in that they seemed to go up as NB speed decreased after a certain point. How odd. The highest NB speed still gave me the best single CPU and multi CPU scores so that was as expected.
Blender scores were generated using an optimized 32-bit build of version 2.5 alpha 2 while rendering a test file known as test.blend: http://www.eofw.org/bench/test.blend?PHPSESSID=819e1c2b501ae28ff68c17f67b1a8a69
Another bizarre finding was that Cinebench R11.5 had to be run at a LOWER vcore than other benchmarks because the heat from high vcore settings made it unstable at speeds of 3.7 ghz or higher. I am planning to improve my cooling on this chip to see what positive results can be had from dropping a few more degrees @ load.
Also, this should demonstrate, without a doubt, that Propus just can't hang with Deneb at the same clock speed. With a better IMC, maybe it could, but as it stands, it is simply inferior. Propus MIGHT be competitive in benchmarks/applications with an enormous working set, but I haven't found anything to demonstrate that possibility (yet).
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