Nazi whack job goes on shooting spree in Kansas

[cyclohexane]

Not everyone is cut out for lecture style learning.

Who is going to fix your car? Who is going to build your refineries? Who is going to mount new tires on your car?

We (society) needs to take people who are not cut out for lecture style learning and make sure they have jobs. The way it works right now, if you do not learn by lecture you are out of luck.

The societies that tries to find "a place for everyone" were colossal communist fuck ups.
The only proven way to run an efficient (and somewhat happy society) is through competition and a market based economy. To make that work, everyone has to be self motivated to work hard and not rely on the government.

 

[silverpig]

Goes to Jewish Community Center to kill Jews, ends up killing two Christians? Not a winner in life, this one.

Well they could have been Jewish by ancestry and Christian by religion.

 

[Texashiker]

To make that work, everyone has to be self motivated to work hard and not rely on the government.

Then you end up with people who are not motivated enough to make it.

They start blaming others for holding them back, such as the jews.

 

[Zaap]

LOL. I love some people's 'hostage theory' version of economics for its sheer absurdity.

IE: those of us who are productive and understand that we need to work and provide for ourselves and family, should be happy giving up huge gobs of what we work hard for, in order to feed a corrupt system that supposedly pays RANSOM for those that don't want to do for self, or else scum will do things like blame the Jews for their poverty, become criminals, etc.

So let's all work hard to pay our neo-nazi and psychopath RANSOM.

LOL!

 

[Texashiker]

LOL. I love some people's 'hostage theory' version of economics for its sheer absurdity.

There are people out there who believe crap like that.

Can not find a job, its because of the jews.

Drug and crime problems in a community, its the blacks.

Anything not to take responsibility for their actions.

 

[HOSED]

I read this maniac was ex military - Could there be any link?

 

[Zaap]

d/p

 

[Zaap]

No duh there are people out there like that.

Where you take it into the realm of absurdity (like virtually all of your 'arguments') is that the rest of us should willingly fund such people's existence.

 

[Texashiker]

Where you take it into the realm of absurdity (like virtually all of your 'arguments') is that the rest of us should willingly fund such people's existence.

My opinion, as stated several times, racism and hatred are like a disease.

How can we justify treating someone with HIV, cancer, Hep C,,,, and other chronic diseases, but we can not provide a treatment for racism, bigotry and anger?

If we can save the life of a gay, black, muslim or in this case jews, why not?

 

[OCGuy]

I read this maniac was ex military - Could there be any link?

Would that shock you in any fashion? This isn't even the half of it:



Timothy McVeigh - U.S. Army Combat Engineer School

John Allen Muhammad - Expert Rifleman's Badge - US Army

Eric Robert Rudolph - Specialist, Explosives Expert - US Army

Nidal Malik Hasan - Major, US Army

Charles Joseph Whitman - US Marine

Lee Harvey Oswald - US Marine

Wade Michael Page - US Army

Christopher Dorner - US Navy/LAPD

 

[Jaskalas]

I read this maniac was ex military - Could there be any link?

At his age he was likely drafted for Vietnam.

 

[dawp]

Well they could have been Jewish by ancestry and Christian by religion.

the kid was there for a singing audition:

Reat, who spent long hours hunting and camping with Corporon, a retired doctor, was also active in debate and theater. The grandson and grandfather were at the Jewish center Sunday for Reat to attend an audition for a regional singing competition.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/je...-him-tributes-youngest-shooting-victim-n79731

 

[bshole]

Surprised Spatially/Spidey have not come in to say "good shoot".

 

[Zaap]

My opinion, as stated several times, racism and hatred are like a disease.

How can we justify treating someone with HIV, cancer, Hep C,,,, and other chronic diseases, but we can not provide a treatment for racism, bigotry and anger?

If we can save the life of a gay, black, muslim or in this case jews, why not?

This is utterly simplistic thinking.

Racism isn't really a disease. It's just another facet of human envy, greed and shame, the most base of human traits.

We have posters right here on this forum that *literally* blame all of their problems on others (the 'rich' is usually a good target, Jews happen to be for others) and actually advocate for jailing and abusing them. One posted the usual tripe just a few posts ago.

So?

Such people just love to blame their problems on others, and will do so no matter what.

I for one, am not giving over the fruits of my labor to such people just so they can continue to not only fester in their warped views, but then sponge off of the very people they want to victimize too? You're just asking people to be economic victims of deranged jealous dumbasses as well as eventually their targets.

Fuck that.

 

[Texashiker]

This is utterly simplistic thinking.

Racism isn't really a disease. It's just another facet of human envy, greed and shame, the most base of human traits.

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I for one, am not giving over the fruits of my labor to such people just so they can continue to not only fester in their warped views, but then sponge off of the very people they want to victimize too? You're just asking people to be economic victims of deranged jealous dumasses as well as eventually their targets.

Then what is the answer?

The Americas were founded on racism.

While looking for gold the Spanish slaughtered native Americans by the tens of thousands.

Slaves were imported from Africa.

During outbreaks of the plague in the middle ages jews were slaughtered by the droves. Jews were hung, sealed in a barn and the barn caught on fire, thrown down a well,,,,, all because there was an outbreak of disease.

Society needs something to change. Racism is not going to just go away.

 

[cyclohexane]

Then what is the answer?

The Americas were founded on racism.

While looking for gold the Spanish slaughtered native Americans by the tens of thousands.

Slaves were imported from Africa.

During outbreaks of the plague in the middle ages jews were slaughtered by the droves. Jews were hung, sealed in a barn and the barn caught on fire, thrown down a well,,,,, all because there was an outbreak of disease.

Society needs something to change. Racism is not going to just go away.

What the fuck are you trying to say? That we need to pay for job training programs to unmotivated individuals so they won't shoot up people? Communism? Many posters have pointed out why this is illogical and won't work and yet you keep arguing.

 

[OverVolt]

The societies that tries to find "a place for everyone" were colossal communist fuck ups.
The only proven way to run an efficient (and somewhat happy society) is through competition and a market based economy. To make that work, everyone has to be self motivated to work hard and not rely on the government.

IMO you are completely misunderstanding him. Right now 28% of millennials have a college degree and 72% do not, despite 70% of millennial having attended some college.

All because college worked for you doesn't mean it can work for everyone. There is in fact a problem with skills in the current workforce. College doesn't come close to preparing you for the workforce. There is a massive problem with trying to match the right person to the right job with the right skills.

Are you Gen X? You are really missing the point.

There is a super "it worked for me it can work for everyone" bias with you. Not all the state universities have connections to private sector industry, internships, and such. Some universities are just not that good. Thats not even considering all the suckers who fall for the for-profit online schools.

Not everyone has a privileged upbringing. The problem that you don't understand is the barriers that are in place now that didn't used to be there. With regard to people who grow up without much privilege or opportunity. For example I was talking with people who got their job a decade ago without a GED. In fact everyone working then in this particular job didn't graduate highschool. Some wised up and got a GED and are now more flexible in the workforce. Others did not because they were comfortable there and thought they could stay forever. But times changed and got more competitive. But that is not entirely their fault.

You don't have the ability to truly put yourself in other peoples shoes. Nor do you truly understand anything about how you became what you are today, if you are missing the point this badly.

It has nothing to do with communism, wow. Its about the institutions we use to train people for the laborforce. Some history would be useful here. Were blacksmith apprenticeships communism? When I put it like that is seems dumb huh?

College is just one way of training people for the laborforce and no it does not work for everyone, nor is it even a good way honestly to train people for the work force. Other countries have in some cases vastly different and IMO more effective ways to pass on skills to the new generations. AFAIK They still have a sort of institutional apprenticeship program in Germany and much of Europe instead of just kicking you to the curb after highschool.

 

[Texashiker]

Many posters have pointed out why this is illogical and won't work and yet you keep arguing.

Then you give me an answer.

What the hell? I make a suggestion and it is shot down. While the whole time everyone is saying anything but bad stuff.

You tell me, how do we end racism?

 

[cyclohexane]

Then you give me an answer.

What the hell? I make a suggestion and it is shot down. While the whole time everyone is saying anything but bad stuff.

You tell me, how do we end racism?

Simple answer is to wait. When old guys like this 70 year old die off, the situation would be much better. Now every metro area in the US has become a multicultural hub, in 20 years most kids born will probably have multiracial backgrounds.

 

[OverVolt]

What the fuck are you trying to say? That we need to pay for job training programs to unmotivated individuals so they won't shoot up people? Communism? Many posters have pointed out why this is illogical and won't work and yet you keep arguing.

We already pay for their highschool, the point of which is to prepare at a minumum the younger generations for the real world. Its expanding other sectors of education other than just college.

Did your dumbass know that for the public state universities, they get a good portion of their funding from the state before even quoting you a tuition price? You are quoted about half what it really costs to go there. Thats why the state universities are cheaper.

Between how hostile you are, and what a dumbass you are, I don't know what to think. State universities are probably communism in your mind if you were to look at where the funding comes from. But since you likely went to one, you'll probably change your mind. You are a dumbass.

You are just raging at TexasHiker because of his post history without actually reading into any of his ideas with an open mind. Again, you are truly a dumbass.

I was trying not to ad hominem you and keep to the topic but you are currently pretty deserving of it so it is what it is.

 

[Texashiker]

Simple answer is to wait. When old guys like this 70 year old die off, the situation would be much better. Now every metro area in the US has become a multicultural hub, in 20 years most kids born will probably have multiracial backgrounds.

Same thing was probably said after the civil war.

 

[QuantumPion]

If only the community center had been a gun free zone this could have been prevented.

 

[Newell Steamer]

In before the Jewish orchastrated false flag waving,..

I think,.. I didn't bother reading the previous posts.

 

[Matt1970]

You know what, I'm gonna do something I normally wouldn't do here. I'm going to defend the right. Even the worst offenders on here that would identify as conservative would never consider this man to share any of their views. So perhaps we should leave the left/right name calling out of this one and just agree this man is a piece of shit human being.

Thank you thraashman

 

[brycejones]

You know what, I'm gonna do something I normally wouldn't do here. I'm going to defend the right. Even the worst offenders on here that would identify as conservative would never consider this man to share any of their views. So perhaps we should leave the left/right name calling out of this one and just agree this man is a piece of shit human being.

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