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good youtube video about the cost overruns, lack of special ammo (due to it costing about the same as a Tomahawk missile but only 1/3rd as effective) and eventual cancelation of the Zumwalt destroyers:

the 3rd and last of the Zumwalts was delivered in 2018 and will reach initial operating capability (IOC) this year (2021).
 
given how much it cost to develop, they should really order more. Like open it up to allies.
lol.. due to cost overruns, it's now $6B per Zumwalt destroyer. 😱
that's 1/2 the cost of a non-nuclear aircraft carrier!

plus there's no ammo for it.
it's $1M each shot! That's $20mil every 10min! (Initial estimates were $35k each shot 😱 )
Tomahawk missiles costs $1M and are 3x better

if the US, whose military budget is greater than the next 10 countries combined, balked at those costs then what other country will buy it?

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lol.. due to cost overruns, it's now $6B per Zumwalt destroyer. 😱
that's 1/2 the cost of a non-nuclear aircraft carrier!
There has not been a diesel aircraft carrier built or commissioned in the US Navy in literally 60 years (1961). You have no estimation of the build-cost of a diesel carrier in over half a century, so...

🙄
 
lol.. due to cost overruns, it's now $6B per Zumwalt destroyer. 😱
that's 1/2 the cost of a non-nuclear aircraft carrier!

plus there's no ammo for it.
it's $1M each shot! That's $20mil every 10min! (Initial estimates were $35k each shot 😱 )
Tomahawk missiles costs $1M and are 3x better

if the US, whose military budget is greater than the next 10 countries combined, balked at those costs then what other country will buy it?

defense-spending-blog-chart-1.jpg
And that is why we can't have essential things, like health care.
 
good youtube video about the cost overruns, lack of special ammo (due to it costing about the same as a Tomahawk missile but only 1/3rd as effective) and eventual cancelation of the Zumwalt destroyers:

the 3rd and last of the Zumwalts was delivered in 2018 and will reach initial operating capability (IOC) this year (2021).

Silly peons...younsay "cost over-runs" like they're a problem...programs like this are much more about making money for the weapons manufacturers than they are about actually providing working weapons for our armed forces.
Everyone knows this.
 
There has not been a diesel aircraft carrier built or commissioned in the US Navy in literally 60 years (1961). You have no estimation of the build-cost of a diesel carrier in over half a century, so...

🙄
psst.. i was responding to the person who said sell the Zumwalts to allies.
so i was talking aircraft carrier cost our allies paid.
ie: England built one recently @ 9B pounds which is $12.7B USD (also because cost overruns)

🙄 indeed
 
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psst.. i was responding to the person who said sell the Zumwalts to allies.
so i was talking aircraft carrier cost our allies paid.
ie: England built one recently @ 9B pounds which is $12.7B USD (also because cost overruns)

🙄 indeed
Yep, just a hop and an unexplained skip, and...you got me.

🙄
 
lol.. due to cost overruns, it's now $6B per Zumwalt destroyer. 😱
that's 1/2 the cost of a non-nuclear aircraft carrier!

plus there's no ammo for it.
it's $1M each shot! That's $20mil every 10min! (Initial estimates were $35k each shot 😱 )
Tomahawk missiles costs $1M and are 3x better

if the US, whose military budget is greater than the next 10 countries combined, balked at those costs then what other country will buy it?

defense-spending-blog-chart-1.jpg
Taiwan would be interested in a few of all Tomahawk variant.
 
There has not been a diesel aircraft carrier built or commissioned in the US Navy in literally 60 years (1961). You have no estimation of the build-cost of a diesel carrier in over half a century, so...

🙄
Not a fleet carrier...no. And strictly speaking, there's never been a "diesel" powered US carrier..... BUT, all the assault carriers are either steam or turbines, and they are conventionally powered and they are still enormous. And they run on probably JP-5, which isn't diesel, but probably not far from it.
 
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It's also why there hasn't been a World War 3. So there's that.
WOW, you really need to pay attention to WHY we spend so much on war toys. Like forcing the $80,000,000,000.00 (That's 80 BILLION, EACH in case numbers are a challenge for you) each F35 on the military when they didn't want it or need it... but the politicians contributors war toy makers own these corrupt bastards.

The 283 F35s in the US have cost 22.5 TRILLION. That and only that would provide healthcare for everyone.

The F35 is a failure.

Stupid thinking and believing the war hawk bullshit coming from the military industrial complex and their whore politicians are another reason we can't have nice things.
 
WOW, you really need to pay attention to WHY we spend so much on war toys. Like forcing the $80,000,000,000.00 (That's 80 BILLION, EACH in case numbers are a challenge for you) each F35 on the military when they didn't want it or need it... but the politicians contributors war toy makers own these corrupt bastards.

The 283 F35s in the US have cost 22.5 TRILLION. That and only that would provide healthcare for everyone.

The F35 is a failure.

Stupid thinking and believing the war hawk bullshit coming from the military industrial complex and their whore politicians are another reason we can't have nice things.

It is not 80 billion per plane, come on man. 22.5 trillion is like three years of all federal spending combined.

ETA: Lifetime cost to purchase and operate all planned F35 purchases for their entire lifespan is put at 1.6 trillion or so. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/air-force-admits-f-35-fighter-jet-costs-too-much-ncna1259781
 
good youtube video about the cost overruns, lack of special ammo (due to it costing about the same as a Tomahawk missile but only 1/3rd as effective) and eventual cancelation of the Zumwalt destroyers:

the 3rd and last of the Zumwalts was delivered in 2018 and will reach initial operating capability (IOC) this year (2021).

Also, the ammo is only theoretically expensive because the Navy was supposed to buy 32 or whatever of these, and order thousands of rounds per ship. The reason the rounds became absurdly expensive per round is the same reason the ship did, when you're dividing X development costs by Y units, it's really painful when Y is reduced by 90%. If they only had built one Zumwalt it would have been 16 billion or something.
 
lol.. due to cost overruns, it's now $6B per Zumwalt destroyer. 😱
that's 1/2 the cost of a non-nuclear aircraft carrier!

plus there's no ammo for it.
it's $1M each shot! That's $20mil every 10min! (Initial estimates were $35k each shot 😱 )
Tomahawk missiles costs $1M and are 3x better

if the US, whose military budget is greater than the next 10 countries combined, balked at those costs then what other country will buy it?

defense-spending-blog-chart-1.jpg
I've seen graphs like this before and I often wonder how much of that spending is due to wages. I often wonder if the DOD even knows just how many people they employ.

Before any one jumps on me and quotes some official number I get that but c'mon.....
 
WOW, you really need to pay attention to WHY we spend so much on war toys. Like forcing the $80,000,000,000.00 (That's 80 BILLION, EACH in case numbers are a challenge for you) each F35 on the military when they didn't want it or need it... but the politicians contributors war toy makers own these corrupt bastards.

The 283 F35s in the US have cost 22.5 TRILLION. That and only that would provide healthcare for everyone.

The F35 is a failure.

Stupid thinking and believing the war hawk bullshit coming from the military industrial complex and their whore politicians are another reason we can't have nice things.
You might want to look at your numbers again. They aren't remotely accurate. I doubt we've spent 22.5 trillion on all the military planes we've ever bought in the history of the country.
The estimated "life of program" cost for the F35 is 1.7 trillion. (I think it was just under 1.4 trillion in 2011 dollars) That's for the entire lifespan of the plane. It counts every possible cost to operate and modernize the F-35 during a 25-year production run, followed by a 30-year operational life. It represents a half-century’s worth of fuel, parts, upgrades, and even related construction costs.
 
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