Navy F-18 Crashes in VA

[The Boston Dangler]

You'd think the geniuses that run that base would have take the proper precautionary measures to ensure this never happens. /facepalm.PR.Nightmare

machines fail, people fail. we have no idea what failure or series of failures took place to come to this result. and, as was said earlier, there's nothing unusual for housing to be built right up to the fence. in my very town, there's a former naval air station with a chain link fence between the end of a runway and 100's of houses built right after the fence was. you could be on the throne and wave out the window to pilots taking off.

 

[slag]

looking at the map, fuselage is on its belly facing north right on top of where the north of those 2 trees are.

hard to tell what the plane hit and what just went up when fuel and flames got it.

You're going to have to be a lot more descriptive when you discuss the map you posted. Which was was the plane flying, from right to left, or vice versa. Which buildings did he hit? Which trees in this picture of about 100 trees did the plane fuselage land on? we need more details. All I see now is fleming drive with a block of two white roofed buildings and then another block further east with more white roofed buildings which are all on fleming circle.

 

[EagleKeeper]

You'd think the geniuses that run that base would have take the proper precautionary measures to ensure this never happens. /facepalm.PR.Nightmare

Like do not have any flights in/out of the base?

1) The planes have to leave the carrier before arriving in port
2) The crews have to get flight time to stay sharp
3) The planes have to fly back to the carrier when departing

OR should the government purchase all land 3-4 miles out at the end of each runway and also along the approach paths.😕

 

[zzuupp]

You build housing 1-2 miles from the end of an active military runway ...

The Navy has traded strong words with the city of VA Beach over their zoning.

 

[Kadarin]

You'd think the geniuses that run that base would have take the proper precautionary measures to ensure this never happens. /facepalm.PR.Nightmare

You'd think that the geniuses who plan zoning and housing construction take into account military airfields. With jets that can crash and explode due to mechanical failure.

 

[CVSiN]

You'd think the geniuses that run that base would have take the proper precautionary measures to ensure this never happens. /facepalm.PR.Nightmare

Youre an Idiot.. Oceania grew up around the airbase.
there are housing and apartments in all directions around the base mainly occupied by US Navy families.

We fly 1000s of sorties there a year and very very few incidents.

This happened right on take off not a whole hell of a lot an aircrew can do.

 

[CVSiN]

Like do not have any flights in/out of the base?

1) The planes have to leave the carrier before arriving in port
2) The crews have to get flight time to stay sharp
3) The planes have to fly back to the carrier when departing

OR should the government purchase all land 3-4 miles out at the end of each runway and also along the approach paths.😕

Eagle just to keep the record straight.. we spend more time on the beach than we do on the ship..

We behave just like the Air Force when not deployed or on Det.

we spend far more time flying out of home base than we do on and off the ships.

We actually log more hours while ashore than we do while deployed..
training is a full time job.

 

[SP33Demon]

Youre an Idiot.. Oceania grew up around the airbase.
there are housing and apartments in all directions around the base mainly occupied by US Navy families.

We fly 1000s of sorties there a year and very very few incidents.

This happened right on take off not a whole hell of a lot an aircrew can do.

Cry more. The government should have either bought out the land or flown the sorties over the water. Either way, the PR shitstorm that's about to ensue is going to make the government wish they used their brains a little more.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Cry more. The government should have either bought out the land or flown the sorties over the water. Either way, the PR shitstorm that's about to ensue is going to make the government wish they used their brains a little more.

dude, stop digging deeper.

 

[Lemon law]

Sad and tragic is most of what I have to say, but often a pilot can't control or predict mechanical failure. And its too early to know many of the facts, except the probable extent of the butcher's bill.

And we will have to ask, if there is no safe spot at the end of the run way to safely direct a disabled plane, should we have what amounts to an optional military base in that location. When military bases are best allocated to low population density areas.
At least when we talk about major air bases.

 

[Train]

Cry more. The government should have either bought out the land or flown the sorties over the water. Either way, the PR shitstorm that's about to ensue is going to make the government wish they used their brains a little more.

You can't be serious.

 

[lupi]

You're going to have to be a lot more descriptive when you discuss the map you posted. Which was was the plane flying, from right to left, or vice versa. Which buildings did he hit? Which trees in this picture of about 100 trees did the plane fuselage land on? we need more details. All I see now is fleming drive with a block of two white roofed buildings and then another block further east with more white roofed buildings which are all on fleming circle.

all those buildings in the center of flemming circle are the appt complex in question. The tree mentioned would be those trees in the center of those appartments. the two buildings forming the center of the west side of the complex are damaged as well as the northern of the two buildings positioned west-east lengthwise forming the eastern end. The long building forming the n-ne boundary just above that building also has substantial.

if I were to guess, the west end buildings took most direct contact damage while those on the other end took fire damage.

 

[lupi]

Cry more. The government should have either bought out the land or flown the sorties over the water. Either way, the PR shitstorm that's about to ensue is going to make the government wish they used their brains a little more.

not only are you a true dumbass, you have absolutely no knowledge of the area cause at worse this will give the navy more bullet points to use in them trying to get additional training areas.

 

[SP33Demon]

Sad and tragic is most of what I have to say, but often a pilot can't control or predict mechanical failure. And its too early to know many of the facts, except the probable extent of the butcher's bill.

And we will have to ask, if there is no safe spot at the end of the run way to safely direct a disabled plane, should we have what amounts to an optional military base in that location.

Exactly the point. Can't wait to see the fallout on this.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

well, lacking sufficient blood and gore, faux news has gone back to their usual propaganda. cnn's "experts" are grasping at straws.

 

[lupi]

Exactly the point. Can't wait to see the fallout on this.

lulz for the moron.

 

[SP33Demon]

not only are you a try dumbass, you have absolutely no knowledge of the area cause at worse this will give the navy more bullet points to use in them trying to get additional training areas.

I'm all for the military expanding in order to add additional training areas. Oh, and keep using terms like "you a try dumbass" and "moron", it helps your argument; especially when you know what my background is and where I work. /wink

 

[lupi]

youve shown your ignorance of the situation quite clearly.

 

[RavenSEAL]

POINT BEING. Someone is gonna have to handle this mess and there are gonna be a LOT of questions.

 

[Nebor]

Cry more. The government should have either bought out the land or flown the sorties over the water. Either way, the PR shitstorm that's about to ensue is going to make the government wish they used their brains a little more.

You're an idiot. The area was built up around the air station. When the buildings were constructed, the owners signed off acknowledging the annoyance and danger of being in the flight path. All subsequent residents signed similar documents. It's not the Navy's fault that people are idiots.

 

[rh71]

so about those commercial airplanes that fly over our residential neighborhood every few minutes...

 

[Baked]

Just glad I don't live under a fly route. Can you imagine watching TV one minute, and having a fighter jet crashing into your apartment the next? Shit!

Hopefully majority of the people in those apartments are out at work when the crash happened.

 

[SP33Demon]

You're an idiot. The area was built up around the air station. When the buildings were constructed, the owners signed off acknowledging the annoyance and danger of being in the flight path. All subsequent residents signed similar documents. It's not the Navy's fault that people are idiots.

The end result is that media pressure will prove that it's the government's duty to protect the people from themselves, as you're about to find out what happens once this situation is investigated. Nobody will remember why it happened, just that it happened and measures will be enacted to ensure it doesn't happen again. Name calling shows that you are emotional and disillusioned about big picture reality.

 

[lupi]

they've stopped spraying foam so you can see better, portion on the ground is just forward of the rear stabalizers and back, with exhaust ports pointed towards the north. Can't see the rest of the aircraft. navy hasn't said anything official yet, but local officials have mentioned that in their preliminary briefs said the pilots ejected after seeing flames coming from the wing.

 

[lupi]

The end result is that media pressure will prove that it's the government's duty to protect the people from themselves, as you're about to find out what happens once this situation is investigated. Nobody will remember why it happened, just that it happened and measures will be enacted to ensure it doesn't happen again. Name calling shows that you are emotional and not rational.

wrong, wrong, and surpise surprise, more wrong.