Nationwide Protest against bush's illegal occupation!

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: DanKindaGuy

But hey, you keep marching, you rebelious free spirit!

All you need is a few emoticons now.

 

[OokiiNeko]

Steeplerotten, you are a dangerous extremist. It's not too late to change your dangerous behavior.

Having read this entire thread, I found the above to be the most disturbing statement in it. Protests of one sort or another are part of America. I did not read anywhere on this thread, SR advocating anything more than protesting in what can be considered a traditional fashion. Oh they blocked traffic. BFD.
Perhaps you should report him for being "unpatriotic"? Well, for now it is still legal to voice disagreement with our "elected" leaders. What disturbs me is that you might support changing that legality, and other pesky rights the Constitution guarantees.

P.S. I find it perfectly understandable that many American citizens are still pissed that we were lied to about WMDs to get us into Iraq.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Steeplerotten, you are a dangerous extremist. It's not too late to change your dangerous behavior.

Having read this entire thread, I found the above to be the most disturbing statement in it. Protests of one sort or another are part of America. I did not read anywhere on this thread, SR advocating anything more than protesting in what can be considered a traditional fashion. Oh they blocked traffic. BFD.
Perhaps you should report him for being "unpatriotic"? Well, for now it is still legal to voice disagreement with our "elected" leaders. What disturbs me is that you might support changing that legality, and other pesky rights the Constitution guarantees.

P.S. I find it perfectly understandable that many American citizens are still pissed that we were lied to about WMDs to get us into Iraq.

I agree with you Ookii... to further illustrate your point, look at the quote in my sig.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Steeplerotten, you are a dangerous extremist. It's not too late to change your dangerous behavior.

Having read this entire thread, I found the above to be the most disturbing statement in it. Protests of one sort or another are part of America. I did not read anywhere on this thread, SR advocating anything more than protesting in what can be considered a traditional fashion. Oh they blocked traffic. BFD.
Perhaps you should report him for being "unpatriotic"? Well, for now it is still legal to voice disagreement with our "elected" leaders. What disturbs me is that you might support changing that legality, and other pesky rights the Constitution guarantees.

P.S. I find it perfectly understandable that many American citizens are still pissed that we were lied to about WMDs to get us into Iraq.

Of course protests are a part of America. The Boston Tea Party was a protest, no?

Its not the protests I have a problem with, its the message they send. Especially to our enemies. When these protestors hold signs up that say the Iraqi resistence should win, it goes above the line. Who am I to draw the line? Noone.

No, this is not the era of McCarty and being reported for being a pinko or "unpatriotic" activities like you have suggested. All I'm asking for is a bit of responsibility from these wacko protestors. Show some respect towards this country. Simply saying that protesting is the ultimate form of showing one's respect towards this country is not enough.

These people blame the cops when they themselves destroy property, block traffic, cause chaos and encourage looting of all sorts. I hate cop haters and will defend the brave cops of this country.

Personally, the juvenile behavior of the protestors turns me off completely. Here you have 60 year olds acting like a bunch of kids. They somehow believe a protest gives them a excuse to not act according to their age.

Steeple is a extremist and reasoning with him is pointless, as shown in this thread.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Steeplerotten, you are a dangerous extremist. It's not too late to change your dangerous behavior.

Having read this entire thread, I found the above to be the most disturbing statement in it. Protests of one sort or another are part of America. I did not read anywhere on this thread, SR advocating anything more than protesting in what can be considered a traditional fashion. Oh they blocked traffic. BFD.
Perhaps you should report him for being "unpatriotic"? Well, for now it is still legal to voice disagreement with our "elected" leaders. What disturbs me is that you might support changing that legality, and other pesky rights the Constitution guarantees.

P.S. I find it perfectly understandable that many American citizens are still pissed that we were lied to about WMDs to get us into Iraq.

Of course protests are a part of America. The Boston Tea Party was a protest, no?

Its not the protests I have a problem with, its the message they send. Especially to our enemies. When these protestors hold signs up that say the Iraqi resistence should win, it goes above the line. Who am I to draw the line? Noone.

No, this is not the era of McCarty and being reported for being a pinko or "unpatriotic" activities like you have suggested. All I'm asking for is a bit of responsibility from these wacko protestors. Show some respect towards this country. Simply saying that protesting is the ultimate form of showing one's respect towards this country is not enough.

These people blame the cops when they themselves destroy property, block traffic, cause chaos and encourage looting of all sorts. I hate cop haters and will defend the brave cops of this country.

Personally, the juvenile behavior of the protestors turns me off completely. Here you have 60 year olds acting like a bunch of kids. They somehow believe a protest gives them a excuse to not act according to their age.

Steeple is a extremist and reasoning with him is pointless, as shown in this thread.

Hmm... I don't remember Steeplerot advocating violence of any kind. Protesting is juvenile behavior? Might I remind you that pro-lifers protest all the time. Are they juvenile? I guess in your eyes, they are.

Are those protestors causing chaos, encouraging looting and advocate the killing of cops? I guess to you, they do.

Oh wait, I get it, you don't mind people protesting as long as they agree with you.

You're so American. :roll:

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Steeplerotten, you are a dangerous extremist. It's not too late to change your dangerous behavior.

Having read this entire thread, I found the above to be the most disturbing statement in it. Protests of one sort or another are part of America. I did not read anywhere on this thread, SR advocating anything more than protesting in what can be considered a traditional fashion. Oh they blocked traffic. BFD.
Perhaps you should report him for being "unpatriotic"? Well, for now it is still legal to voice disagreement with our "elected" leaders. What disturbs me is that you might support changing that legality, and other pesky rights the Constitution guarantees.

P.S. I find it perfectly understandable that many American citizens are still pissed that we were lied to about WMDs to get us into Iraq.

Of course protests are a part of America. The Boston Tea Party was a protest, no?

Its not the protests I have a problem with, its the message they send. Especially to our enemies. When these protestors hold signs up that say the Iraqi resistence should win, it goes above the line. Who am I to draw the line? Noone.

No, this is not the era of McCarty and being reported for being a pinko or "unpatriotic" activities like you have suggested. All I'm asking for is a bit of responsibility from these wacko protestors. Show some respect towards this country. Simply saying that protesting is the ultimate form of showing one's respect towards this country is not enough.

These people blame the cops when they themselves destroy property, block traffic, cause chaos and encourage looting of all sorts. I hate cop haters and will defend the brave cops of this country.

Personally, the juvenile behavior of the protestors turns me off completely. Here you have 60 year olds acting like a bunch of kids. They somehow believe a protest gives them a excuse to not act according to their age.

Steeple is a extremist and reasoning with him is pointless, as shown in this thread.

Reasoning with Steeplerot is pointless, but you also are a clown of almost equal stature. You would, in fact, be a McCarthyist clown if the decade was right. Both of you are a hilariously stupid read and possible evidence that God exists, because the creation of both of you would take a directed effort at humour.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: raildogg


Steeple is a extremist and reasoning with him is pointless, as shown in this thread.

I just got out of the shower and I will take a moment even though I am rushed to tell the story of how the anarchists who blocked traffic turned out and how wrong your way of thinking is in reality.

9 people were trapped and they sat down to make a point that not everyone will fall into line and they were SICK of being not listened to about this damn war!
The SFPD gave them every fair chance to get up and walk away like thee rest of the anarchists did when they knew they were trapped.
They got arrested by their OWN choice to make a point. NO property was harmed.
Just some punk rock kids (all under 18) making their stand.

The rest of them headed up to buena vista park a block up from my house and started a "jail solidartity" party for their brothers, everyone was worried where they would get the money to bail them out.
You know what happened? The SFPD paddy wagons pulled up slid their doors open and let
the direct-action punks free and told them they are PROUD of them as good americans.

The cops told them they were proud they stood up to them BUT refrained from getting out of control in the name of standing up for what they believe in.
The cops went up and hung out friendly like with the punks and joined the party.
Everyone was ecstatic! SOLIDARITY with our local police force! (they didn't drink as far as I saw since they were on duty.)
THAT is how cops should be in America!
They made me proud that they let those kids free -THAT is American police force I am proud of.



If you had your way raildogg they would have shot those who dissent.
Life is not the black and white cops episode made for drama TV.

:beer: for the anarchists breakaway -a nonviolent success for getting the word out in the face of a unlistening media.
And a fine show from our local SFPD. :beer:

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Dedicated to all those protestors

Uh oh - now you've done it.
:thumbsup:

CsG

Hey I believe the reason for going there was BS but it would be incredibly foolish to withdraw all our forces now. We have to fix our fsck up and leaving those W*** to fend for themselves would be a disaster. If all those terrorists that were created by our invasion were left alone they'd just attack us on our own soil. We created the Monster, now it's up to us to kill it.

So you sidle up with people who believe the complete opposite. The people like CAD who believed this war was right and still is right.

Man you are getting old. Retire. Before you get to be the annoying ass old-liberal-with-no-agenda.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Steeplerotten, you are a dangerous extremist. It's not too late to change your dangerous behavior.

Having read this entire thread, I found the above to be the most disturbing statement in it. Protests of one sort or another are part of America. I did not read anywhere on this thread, SR advocating anything more than protesting in what can be considered a traditional fashion. Oh they blocked traffic. BFD.
Perhaps you should report him for being "unpatriotic"? Well, for now it is still legal to voice disagreement with our "elected" leaders. What disturbs me is that you might support changing that legality, and other pesky rights the Constitution guarantees.

P.S. I find it perfectly understandable that many American citizens are still pissed that we were lied to about WMDs to get us into Iraq.

Of course protests are a part of America. The Boston Tea Party was a protest, no?

Its not the protests I have a problem with, its the message they send. Especially to our enemies. When these protestors hold signs up that say the Iraqi resistence should win, it goes above the line. Who am I to draw the line? Noone.

No, this is not the era of McCarty and being reported for being a pinko or "unpatriotic" activities like you have suggested. All I'm asking for is a bit of responsibility from these wacko protestors. Show some respect towards this country. Simply saying that protesting is the ultimate form of showing one's respect towards this country is not enough.

These people blame the cops when they themselves destroy property, block traffic, cause chaos and encourage looting of all sorts. I hate cop haters and will defend the brave cops of this country.

Personally, the juvenile behavior of the protestors turns me off completely. Here you have 60 year olds acting like a bunch of kids. They somehow believe a protest gives them a excuse to not act according to their age.

Steeple is a extremist and reasoning with him is pointless, as shown in this thread.

Reasoning with Steeplerot is pointless, but you also are a clown of almost equal stature. You would, in fact, be a McCarthyist clown if the decade was right. Both of you are a hilariously stupid read and possible evidence that God exists, because the creation of both of you would take a directed effort at humour.

So the modern you-are-not-a-patriot-if-you-don't-believe-in-the-war Republican is not a Mcarthyist? God, shutup dude.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Steeplerotten, you are a dangerous extremist. It's not too late to change your dangerous behavior.

Having read this entire thread, I found the above to be the most disturbing statement in it. Protests of one sort or another are part of America. I did not read anywhere on this thread, SR advocating anything more than protesting in what can be considered a traditional fashion. Oh they blocked traffic. BFD.
Perhaps you should report him for being "unpatriotic"? Well, for now it is still legal to voice disagreement with our "elected" leaders. What disturbs me is that you might support changing that legality, and other pesky rights the Constitution guarantees.

P.S. I find it perfectly understandable that many American citizens are still pissed that we were lied to about WMDs to get us into Iraq.

Of course protests are a part of America. The Boston Tea Party was a protest, no?

Its not the protests I have a problem with, its the message they send. Especially to our enemies. When these protestors hold signs up that say the Iraqi resistence should win, it goes above the line. Who am I to draw the line? Noone.

No, this is not the era of McCarty and being reported for being a pinko or "unpatriotic" activities like you have suggested. All I'm asking for is a bit of responsibility from these wacko protestors. Show some respect towards this country. Simply saying that protesting is the ultimate form of showing one's respect towards this country is not enough.

These people blame the cops when they themselves destroy property, block traffic, cause chaos and encourage looting of all sorts. I hate cop haters and will defend the brave cops of this country.

Personally, the juvenile behavior of the protestors turns me off completely. Here you have 60 year olds acting like a bunch of kids. They somehow believe a protest gives them a excuse to not act according to their age.

Steeple is a extremist and reasoning with him is pointless, as shown in this thread.

Hmm... I don't remember Steeplerot advocating violence of any kind. Protesting is juvenile behavior? Might I remind you that pro-lifers protest all the time. Are they juvenile? I guess in your eyes, they are.

Are those protestors causing chaos, encouraging looting and advocate the killing of cops? I guess to you, they do.

Oh wait, I get it, you don't mind people protesting as long as they agree with you.

You're so American. :roll:

Read through this thread. He was saying the anarchists have blocked off the streets and are saying f-you to the cops and 9 were arrested by those slimey cops. I have no problem with protests.

Have a million man march up the White House and chant death to Bush. Could care less. Does that enhance your cause in any way? Not in my eye.

Protests are not juvenile, its the people that take part in them that are juvenile. Again, I don't take part in protests and I'm certainly not a pro-lifer. Have a message that makes some sense and act like humans and I might sympathize with your cause a bit more.

What is the point of these anti-war protestors? Do we even know if they have one other than that they hate Bush?

Do they want us to pull out of Iraq completely and let the country be run over by militants?

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Proletariat
So the modern you-are-not-a-patriot-if-you-don't-believe-in-the-war Republican is not a Mcarthyist? God, shutup dude.

You're a moron too, actually. Hell, your name on these forums is proof enough of that. I don't even need to go into how stupid your post is.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Do they want us to pull out of Iraq completely and let the country be run over by militants?

Reality check, iraq IS overrun by militants, and we are just making it WORSE.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: yllus
Reasoning with Steeplerot is pointless, but you also are a clown of almost equal stature. You would, in fact, be a McCarthyist clown if the decade was right. Both of you are a hilariously stupid read and possible evidence that God exists, because the creation of both of you would take a directed effort at humour.

So I'm a clown because I'm suggesting these people who protest and cause havoc in the cities are dangerous? I have no problem with protests. Keep in mind, equality of blacks was accomplished through protesting.

What is the message of these protestors? Pull out of Iraq and leave a half finished job behind? What is their message other than that they hate Bush?

McCarthy resented dissent and lined up people who disagreed with him.

I view dissent as one of the key reasons why this country is as successful as it is today. But be reasonable, be respectful of this country and respect the rule of law and I will listen.

Thats something these protestors are not doing.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Proletariat
So the modern you-are-not-a-patriot-if-you-don't-believe-in-the-war Republican is not a Mcarthyist? God, shutup dude.

You're a moron too, actually. Hell, your name on these forums is proof enough of that. I don't even need to go into how stupid your post is.

Just back out of the thread you are getting worked up and are sounding like a spoiled 12 year old who is frustrated becasue your point of view is flawed.
Please save the personal attacks for PM.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: yllus
Reasoning with Steeplerot is pointless, but you also are a clown of almost equal stature. You would, in fact, be a McCarthyist clown if the decade was right. Both of you are a hilariously stupid read and possible evidence that God exists, because the creation of both of you would take a directed effort at humour.

So I'm a clown because I'm suggesting these people who protest and cause havoc in the cities are dangerous? I have no problem with protests. Keep in mind, equality of blacks was accomplished through protesting.

What is the message of these protestors? Pull out of Iraq and leave a half finished job behind? What is their message other than that they hate Bush?

McCarthy resented dissent and lined up people who disagreed with him.

I view dissent as one of the key reasons why this country is as successful as it is today. But be reasonable, be respectful of this country and respect the rule of law and I will listen.

Thats something these protestors are not doing.

You can't have it both ways RD, sorry that's not how life works.
Freedom is not free right? thats what you neocons always say.
Please read my post above SF is not a burning heap just a lot of people having a good time getting out a message that is ignored by the media,
chill out NO PROPERTY WAS DAMAGED.
The cops let them go and told them they were proud of them.
THEY HATE BUSH'S WAR TOO! and said so!
Your point of view is not only wrong but destructive to democracy.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There is noone on my "side" here. and NEVER have been since I have posted here.

Maybe because you're fvcking insane?

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Proletariat
So the modern you-are-not-a-patriot-if-you-don't-believe-in-the-war Republican is not a Mcarthyist? God, shutup dude.

You're a moron too, actually. Hell, your name on these forums is proof enough of that. I don't even need to go into how stupid your post is.

Just back out of the thread you are getting worked up and are sounding like a spoiled 12 year old who is frustrated becasue your point of view is flawed.
Please save the personal attacks for PM.

LOL why would I be upset? The only point of view I've expressed in this thread has been such as to belittle people taking part in it, and which I'm going cease participating in immediately before the one mod that comes around this forum every month or so thinks I've said too much.

See you guys in the next thread. Dorks.

 

[smc13]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: raildogg

Do they want us to pull out of Iraq completely and let the country be run over by militants?

Reality check, iraq IS overrun by militants, and we are just making it WORSE.

How are we making it worse? Before the US came into Iraq, the country was controlled by a dictator. Now they are having elections. We have built up their schools and their infrastructure. The Iraqi government used to arrest and murder people for nothing. Now, the Iraqi people are the good guys and only the people who are murdering Iraqis are the insurgants. In what way are things worse?

 

[slyedog]

as usual, this BS from steep is not worth reading. America will never be defeated as he wishes.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: smc13

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: raildogg

Do they want us to pull out of Iraq completely and let the country be run over by militants?

Reality check, iraq IS overrun by militants, and we are just making it WORSE.

How are we making it worse? Before the US came into Iraq, the country was controlled by a dictator. Now they are having elections. We have built up their schools and their infrastructure. The Iraqi government used to arrest and murder people for nothing. Now, the Iraqi people are the good guys and only the people who are murdering Iraqis are the insurgants. In what way are things worse?

We took a country over that wasn't uprising against there horrible evil dictator that so bad! He's a bad man, but he REALLY hasn't done anything wrong in the past 10 years that gives us any real reason to invade.

Our current methods we are using to run the country are POOR. Our militarys leader's have purposely tried to hide things like abu garbi(sp?) and prisoner abuse. I don't see a good ole' Iraq becoming with our current adminstration. Thats my problem.

Leaving would be a massive blow to the united states and it would look even worse that our current situation. We removed the only leader they had we destroyed vast amounts of infastructure, it's our responsiblity to the world to show that we can fix our own mistakes.

 

[OokiiNeko]

raildogg,
While I disagree with you, you at least sounded reasonable in your last post. I understand why you want the country to appear united to the outside world, but it is a slippery slope (don't protest the war, you make the US look weak will lead to what?) that I do not trust anyone to put us on.
Read "Animal Farm". If you get the Signet Classics paperback version, the intro written by some Brit in 1954(?) is just chilling, as it could in large part apply today.

P.S. Take a good look at the some of the drop-in posters in this thread. They are contributing little but inflammatory comments (yllus) then sitting back to watch you two (SR and RD) go at it.
I think you guys could have a good discussion if you dropped the name calling and ignored the dipsh!ts who post "oh this thread is so useless, you guys are stupid".
And yet, they post

 

[smc13]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: smc13

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: raildogg

Do they want us to pull out of Iraq completely and let the country be run over by militants?

Reality check, iraq IS overrun by militants, and we are just making it WORSE.

How are we making it worse? Before the US came into Iraq, the country was controlled by a dictator. Now they are having elections. We have built up their schools and their infrastructure. The Iraqi government used to arrest and murder people for nothing. Now, the Iraqi people are the good guys and only the people who are murdering Iraqis are the insurgants. In what way are things worse?

We took a country over that wasn't uprising against there horrible evil dictator that so bad! He's a bad man, but he REALLY hasn't done anything wrong in the past 10 years that gives us any real reason to invade.

Our current methods we are using to run the country are POOR. Our militarys leader's have purposely tried to hide things like abu garbi(sp?) and prisoner abuse. I don't see a good ole' Iraq becoming with our current adminstration. Thats my problem.

Leaving would be a massive blow to the united states and it would look even worse that our current situation. We removed the only leader they had we destroyed vast amounts of infastructure, it's our responsiblity to the world to show that we can fix our own mistakes.

When you say hasn't done things in the past 10 years you mean he hasn't done much to the US, right? I agree we didn't have a real reason to invade. However, the Saddam has done plenty to the iraqi people and they are much better off without him.

I don't see evidence to indicate that the military tried to hide anything in that prison. Sure, some military personel tried to hide things but that isn't indicative of the whole military.

 

[nergee]

"When you say hasn't done things in the past 10 years you mean he hasn't done much to the US, right? I agree we didn't have a real reason to invade. However, the Saddam has done plenty to the iraqi people and they are much better off without him."

Of course we had a real reason to invade....we just were not told what it was....however, a quick glance at a map of the
middle east and the reason becomes clearer.............

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: nergee
"When you say hasn't done things in the past 10 years you mean he hasn't done much to the US, right? I agree we didn't have a real reason to invade. However, the Saddam has done plenty to the iraqi people and they are much better off without him."

Of course we had a real reason to invade....we just were not told what it was....however, a quick glance at a map of the
middle east and the reason becomes clearer.............

Please don't say OIL or I am gonna have to BARF on you!

see the $57 per barrel of oil price? I cannot believe how much gas went up Friday...

btw OP the red states don't give a rip what those loons making up something to protest just to get out of work or have a party. </unspoken majority>

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There is noone on my "side" here. and NEVER have been since I have posted here.

Maybe because you're fvcking insane?

"Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music."
~ Angela Monet