National Weather Service says it will be cooler than normal this fall

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Tom

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Or it might be warmer than average.

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"We're in an area that it could go either way, slightly above or slightly below," he said. "I would say just expect near normal precipitation."
 

Jaskalas

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There's nothing strange about them not knowing. It depends entirely on how certain, essentially chaotic, atmospheric circulations play out. There are long term trends based on ENSO you can follow, but that does not account for NAO, AO, or others.

Even longer term is the PDO and AMO, which take ~60 years to cycle back and forth and also clearly dominate weather patterns but happen so infrequently that we don't fully understand their effects. Would take a life time of data for a single sample.

Fall, clearly October is cold but November should bounce back warmer. It's a good bet this winter will not be a torch in the US like last winter, and some computer models agree, but nothing is for certain. They do their best with what they have.
 

Nemesis 1

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Ya the wobble has come to us. Look for a winter like EU had last year . can't wait myself.,
 

Franz316

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It's still summer down here in Florida with highs near 90 and very high humidity. It gets old after 7 months.
 
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I want to be a meteoroligist. I can be wrong 50% of the time with my guesses and still have a job. In the engineering field with that kind of fail rate youd probably be in prison lol
 
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