Narcotics basically legal in Canada

[Nebor]

The War On Drugs isn't perfect, but it's the best we've got so far, and it's better than nothing. I'm all for the most ruthless and effecient way of getting rid of all drugs.

Hopefully someday, the DEA will just unleash a series of plant viruses\bacteria that only attack the principle drug bearing plants.
Oh, and they definitely need to just ban the sale of the easily obtained ingredients in meth. That would be an easy step.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: VTboy
It seems to work good for Asia. I doubt Tiawan has much drug users with its hard stance on drugs. Hell Opium seeds are illegal in Tiawan.

Is Tiawan a country like ours? No. Does Tiawan believe in Civil Liberties? No. Again, how will doing what Taiwan does help America? You don't stop addicts by arresting or jailing them. People are successful at maintaing their addictions in prison at all times. You don't think prisons have drugs?

That is just a ridiculous notion. There are no drugs in prison. That's the point of prison. Otherwise there would be guns and hookers in prison too.

 

[fumbduck]

I love it. Mill > *

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
There are two million people imprisoned in the United States for drug charges... Not nearly enough. I'm a firm believer that every single one of them should be locked up for a while, to show them where drugs get them. Dealers should just be executed as the murderers they are though...

It's funny that you say that coming from the guy that admits to speeding around like an ass in his Lightning. How are drug dealers murderers(minus the ones that actually kill someone with violence)?. They sell something that people CHOSE to partake in. Sure dealers are scum when it comes to hard drugs, but you honestly think execution would do anything? It would create widespread revolt and the vast majority of the US would disagree with you. Maybe Alaska would be good for you, no? It is always funny to hear the Puritans scream loudest about what they would do to person X, but they knowingly break the law(speeding) yet think they behavior is not hypocritical. Is that you Rush?

I really don't speed much at all, the only time I'm way over the limit is if I'm racing.... So it should really be "racing around like an ass."

Drugs aren't a choice, they're an addiction. Do you really think people WANT to die who take those drugs? They want to look pale and sallow and thin?

Many countries execute drug dealers. Maybe execution is extreme, but they should hand out a lot more life sentences.

Yeah, sure, I break the law, but I would feel really bad if someone got hurt as a result of my actions. A drug dealer doesn't have that kind of remorse, they're out their to make money off of sucking the life out of people.

You contradiction is baffling. So now we should punish people for being addicted? Simple idea is that people do in fact CHOOSE to do drugs. You don't become addicted from smoking one rock. That's a myth. Anyway... drugs are not a problem that is solved by throwing out extreme sentences. We have a Constitution to follow here and it says citizens have a right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment. Execution for selling drugs is cruel and unusual. Somehow people have gotten the idea that drugs just came about in the past 50 years. HELLO THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE. People just looked the other way or maintained their life with their addiction in private. Now we castigate someone for speaking marijuana. Anyway, you minimize the idea that you are breaking the law. Racing and speeding are breaking the law. You are acting as if drug usage is any more harmful than you plowing into a Church Van full of toddlers. It isn't. Illegal is illegal, so if your issue is morality or legality you lose. Try again.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: VTboy
It seems to work good for Asia. I doubt Tiawan has much drug users with its hard stance on drugs. Hell Opium seeds are illegal in Tiawan.

Is Tiawan a country like ours? No. Does Tiawan believe in Civil Liberties? No. Again, how will doing what Taiwan does help America? You don't stop addicts by arresting or jailing them. People are successful at maintaing their addictions in prison at all times. You don't think prisons have drugs?

That is just a ridiculous notion. There are no drugs in prison. That's the point of prison. Otherwise there would be guns and hookers in prison too.

What are you mentally retarded? Since when are you going to stick the frame of a gun up your ass or a whole hooker? There are plenty of drugs in prison. In fact any drug you want.

 

[Nebor]

See, I've never hit anyone, or caused a wreck, or anything (due to racing or driving wrecklessly.)

Acting as if speeding is a moral issue is ridiculous. Selling drugs, knowing that you ARE hurting or killing someone is totally different.

Users SHOULD be locked up. If you lock up enough of them, you will eventually damage the drug market a lot, as well as stop all those people from using drugs. It's debatable whether or not prison is better for them than drugs, but it's certainly a helluva a lot better for ME, so that Johny Pothead isn't stealing my stereo for a fix.

 

[Mill]

There
Are
No
Drugs
In
Prison
According
To
Nebor

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: VTboy
It seems to work good for Asia. I doubt Tiawan has much drug users with its hard stance on drugs. Hell Opium seeds are illegal in Tiawan.

Is Tiawan a country like ours? No. Does Tiawan believe in Civil Liberties? No. Again, how will doing what Taiwan does help America? You don't stop addicts by arresting or jailing them. People are successful at maintaing their addictions in prison at all times. You don't think prisons have drugs?

That is just a ridiculous notion. There are no drugs in prison. That's the point of prison. Otherwise there would be guns and hookers in prison too.

What are you mentally retarded? Since when are you going to stick the frame of a gun up your ass or a whole hooker? There are plenty of drugs in prison. In fact any drug you want.

I don't believe you. Simple as that. If I'm wrong, then it's a bit of naivete that I'm going to cling to, so don't bother with any evidence about it.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor
See, I've never hit anyone, or caused a wreck, or anything (due to racing or driving wrecklessly.)

Acting as if speeding is a moral issue is ridiculous. Selling drugs, knowing that you ARE hurting or killing someone is totally different.

Users SHOULD be locked up. If you lock up enough of them, you will eventually damage the drug market a lot, as well as stop all those people from using drugs. It's debatable whether or not prison is better for them than drugs, but it's certainly a helluva a lot better for ME, so that Johny Pothead isn't stealing my stereo for a fix.

Yet drugs are in prison. Try again. The problem is the lack of education concerning drugs and locking people up for petty possession. Locking someone up still allows them to have access to drugs, and prison programs are SEVERELY lacking in their success rates for addicts. And I'm comparing some usage to speeding as a legal issue. Secondly, there is no doubt that addicts steal, but marijuana users are no more likely to steal than an alcoholic, but are coddled into even more legal issues because their substance abuse is illegal whereas an alcoholic won't be locked up for having a six pack in his house.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
See, I've never hit anyone, or caused a wreck, or anything (due to racing or driving wrecklessly.)

Acting as if speeding is a moral issue is ridiculous. Selling drugs, knowing that you ARE hurting or killing someone is totally different.

Users SHOULD be locked up. If you lock up enough of them, you will eventually damage the drug market a lot, as well as stop all those people from using drugs. It's debatable whether or not prison is better for them than drugs, but it's certainly a helluva a lot better for ME, so that Johny Pothead isn't stealing my stereo for a fix.

Yet drugs are in prison. Try again.

No, they're not.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
See, I've never hit anyone, or caused a wreck, or anything (due to racing or driving wrecklessly.)

Acting as if speeding is a moral issue is ridiculous. Selling drugs, knowing that you ARE hurting or killing someone is totally different.

Users SHOULD be locked up. If you lock up enough of them, you will eventually damage the drug market a lot, as well as stop all those people from using drugs. It's debatable whether or not prison is better for them than drugs, but it's certainly a helluva a lot better for ME, so that Johny Pothead isn't stealing my stereo for a fix.

Yet drugs are in prison. Try again.

No, they're not.

Originally posted by: Mill
There
Are
No
Drugs
In
Prison
According
To
Nebor

 

[Mill]

Double post. Fusetalk must be on drugs.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: VTboy
It seems to work good for Asia. I doubt Tiawan has much drug users with its hard stance on drugs. Hell Opium seeds are illegal in Tiawan.

Is Tiawan a country like ours? No. Does Tiawan believe in Civil Liberties? No. Again, how will doing what Taiwan does help America? You don't stop addicts by arresting or jailing them. People are successful at maintaing their addictions in prison at all times. You don't think prisons have drugs?

That is just a ridiculous notion. There are no drugs in prison. That's the point of prison. Otherwise there would be guns and hookers in prison too.

What are you mentally retarded? Since when are you going to stick the frame of a gun up your ass or a whole hooker? There are plenty of drugs in prison. In fact any drug you want.

I don't believe you. Simple as that. If I'm wrong, then it's a bit of naivete that I'm going to cling to, so don't bother with any evidence about it.

Being naive has nothing to do with being a complete moron. Sure there is a correlation, but most morons ARE naive, but they are morons in all facets of life.

 

[Nebor]

That old Rabbi should be thrown in prison too. He's a drug runner, it's pretty obvious.

And as we can see from that article, drugs don't make it into prisons, they catch them, like they did here.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Milldo with being a complete moron. Sure there is a correlation, but most morons ARE naive, but they are morons in all facets of life.

Wow, you really get worked up over this stuff. And here I am just talking in circles.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor
That old Rabbi should be thrown in prison too. He's a drug runner, it's pretty obvious.

And as we can see from that article, drugs don't make it into prisons, they catch them, like they did here.

Read the other links. Several are case studies on the availability of drugs in prison. Are you trolling as usual or just a complete and utter moron with a complete lack of analytical skills who can't read past a first grade level? I don't mind debating someone with valid points, but you proving the old adage about never arguing with an idiot.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Milldo with being a complete moron. Sure there is a correlation, but most morons ARE naive, but they are morons in all facets of life.

Wow, you really get worked up over this stuff. And here I am just talking in circles.

So you admit you are just trolling the thread like a jackass? Worked up? Hell no. I love exposing idiots and showing how their views are based on mind numbing stupidity, ignorance, and illiteracy. If that makes me "worked up" then so be it.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
That old Rabbi should be thrown in prison too. He's a drug runner, it's pretty obvious.

And as we can see from that article, drugs don't make it into prisons, they catch them, like they did here.

Read the other links. Several are case studies on the availability of drugs in prison. Are you trolling as usual or just a complete and utter moron with a complete lack of analytical skills who can't read past a first grade level? I don't mind debating someone with valid points, but you proving the old adage about never arguing with an idiot.

If I were really trying to argue, I wouldn't have devolved things into straight up denial of facts.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
That old Rabbi should be thrown in prison too. He's a drug runner, it's pretty obvious.

And as we can see from that article, drugs don't make it into prisons, they catch them, like they did here.

Read the other links. Several are case studies on the availability of drugs in prison. Are you trolling as usual or just a complete and utter moron with a complete lack of analytical skills who can't read past a first grade level? I don't mind debating someone with valid points, but you proving the old adage about never arguing with an idiot.

If I were really trying to argue, I wouldn't have devolved things into straight up denial of facts.

Good you found an out. Now you can leave the thread. Bye.

 

[imported_Phil]

I'm going to hop in late here.
While there is relatively little "soft" (cannabis etc) drug use in prisons that have weekly drugs testing, the fact remains that there are drugs in prison. The reason for this being that cannabis takes up to thirty days to disappear from the bloodstream, where as heroin takes a far, far shorter time.

Speak to any ex-con, they'll tell you that drugs are in prison. Hell, read Mr Nice (Howard Marks' autobiography). Sure, it's a little dated now, but even in those days, drug use in prison was rampant, especially in places like Thailand.

Drugs don't necessarily come in by being stuffed up someone's backside; bent screws bring drugs in for paying prisoners, and make quite a healthy profit from it.

I'm not saying that drug use is widespread and rampant throughout the jails of the US or the UK, but it's certainly there, and a fact that cannot be denied.

[Edit] According to the last link, it appears that there's more cannabis use in prison than I had heard. Go figure.

 

[joinT]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
See, I've never hit anyone, or caused a wreck, or anything (due to racing or driving wrecklessly.)

Acting as if speeding is a moral issue is ridiculous. Selling drugs, knowing that you ARE hurting or killing someone is totally different.

Users SHOULD be locked up. If you lock up enough of them, you will eventually damage the drug market a lot, as well as stop all those people from using drugs. It's debatable whether or not prison is better for them than drugs, but it's certainly a helluva a lot better for ME, so that Johny Pothead isn't stealing my stereo for a fix.

Yet drugs are in prison. Try again.

No, they're not.

you're wasting your time Mill... why argue with someone who doesn't treat you with enough respect to at least hear out your side.

agreed w/ fumbduck!

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: VTboy
It seems to work good for Asia. I doubt Tiawan has much drug users with its hard stance on drugs. Hell Opium seeds are illegal in Tiawan.

Is Tiawan a country like ours? No. Does Tiawan believe in Civil Liberties? No. Again, how will doing what Taiwan does help America? You don't stop addicts by arresting or jailing them. People are successful at maintaing their addictions in prison at all times. You don't think prisons have drugs?

Woah woah! "Taiwan" doesn't execute people for drug. Yes, poppy seeds are illegal, but last time I checked, Singapore is one of the countries that execute drug smugglers. Taiwan currently is battling problems with X. That's the drug of choice for teens there.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Nebor
There are two million people imprisoned in the United States for drug charges... Not nearly enough. I'm a firm believer that every single one of them should be locked up for a while, to show them where drugs get them. Dealers should just be executed as the murderers they are though...

What the hell are you smoking because it must be something good. The only reason why drug use can lead to prision is because of our assbackwards hypocritical laws that say that some drugs are ok to consume and some drugs are illegal. In regards to your asinine comment about executing dealers I hope next for the firing squad is going to be tobacco, alcohol and fast food executives because they all push a product that is far more dangerous than marijuana and around as harmful as some other harder drugs.

 

[LAUST]

Well they unlike the US still have most of their "Freedom"

<--- runs away

 

[yllus]

As a Canadian living in the country's largest city (Toronto), let me assure you that you can still get arrested for drug possession in Canada.