Name some moderates

User1001

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I just want to see what the general consensus on moderates are. Please don't post presidents names.

Congressman Mark Kirk
 

zendari

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Senator Arlen Specter

One of my state senators, a good guy.

There aren't too many moderates anymore.
 

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I always liked Jack Kemp. Too bad he did so poorly when he debated Al Gore. He had superior ideas but he just didn't communicate them well.
 

krcat1

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I scary to that all the moderates I can think of are either out of government or dead.

Kemp is a good one. So is Spector. Maybe Lincoln Chaffee?
 

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Zell Miller? Did you haopen to catch his speech at the Republican Convention? If he's a moderate, we are in BIG trouble.

Senator Susan Collins - R- Maine
Senator Olympia Snowe -R - Maine

They have helped reign in some of GWBs excess. However, there is a price to be paid for not blindly supporting the theocracy: Base Closures, pulled funding, etc.

Originally posted by: zendari
Senator Arlen Specter

One of my state senators, a good guy.

There aren't too many moderates anymore.

There are probably enough to derail the insane policies of this administration.
 

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Yes! I heard CTW's presentation on the (I think) Cambridge Forum (NPR). She just wrote a book on the rightward shift of the Republican party. It's heartening to know that there are Republicans who oppose Bush's crazed agenda.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: zendari
Senator Arlen Specter

One of my state senators, a good guy.

There aren't too many moderates anymore.

There are probably enough to derail the insane policies of this administration.[/quote]

No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

But I guess the courts are the last bastion of liberal power today, gotta protect it.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: zendari
Senator Arlen Specter

One of my state senators, a good guy.

There aren't too many moderates anymore.

There are probably enough to derail the insane policies of this administration.

No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

But I guess the courts are the last bastion of liberal power today, gotta protect it.[/quote]

The left uses sleezy tactics? Oh my God, that's priceless! :laugh:
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: zendari
No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

You do understand Republicans have used the filibuster in the past too right?
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: zendari
No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

You do understand Republicans have used the filibuster in the past too right?

Occasionally. That doesn't make it right. And if you have a majority in the senate its a different ballgame.

 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: zendari
No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

You do understand Republicans have used the filibuster in the past too right?

Occasionally. That doesn't make it right. And if you have a majority in the senate its a different ballgame.

Sounds like you should refer to it as everyone's sleezy tactics.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: zendari
No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

You do understand Republicans have used the filibuster in the past too right?

Occasionally. That doesn't make it right. And if you have a majority in the senate its a different ballgame.

How so? So if the Republicans have a majority, then the filibuster is evil? If they don't, then it's great?
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: zendari
No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

You do understand Republicans have used the filibuster in the past too right?

Occasionally. That doesn't make it right. And if you have a majority in the senate its a different ballgame.

How so? So if the Republicans have a majority, then the filibuster is evil? If they don't, then it's great?

If the majority party is doing the blocking, its different than the minority party doing the blocking.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: zendari
How so? So if the Republicans have a majority, then the filibuster is evil? If they don't, then it's great?

If the majority party is doing the blocking, its different than the minority party doing the blocking.

Why would the majority party block when they could just vote it down?

Do you realize Republicans used it when they were a minority?
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: zendari
No, there are enough underhanded radical leftists to temporarily c*ckblock the administration with their sleezy tactics.

You do understand Republicans have used the filibuster in the past too right?

Occasionally. That doesn't make it right. And if you have a majority in the senate its a different ballgame.

How so? So if the Republicans have a majority, then the filibuster is evil? If they don't, then it's great?

If the majority party is doing the blocking, its different than the minority party doing the blocking.

Majority parties don't need filibusters.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: zendari
How so? So if the Republicans have a majority, then the filibuster is evil? If they don't, then it's great?

If the majority party is doing the blocking, its different than the minority party doing the blocking.

Why would the majority party block when they could just vote it down?

Do you realize Republicans used it when they were a minority?

The dems complain about other blocking means that republicans used while they were in the majority under Clinton.

How many Clinton nominees did the republicans block while they were a minority? If I understand it properly, the Republicans held congress from 1994 until 2000
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: zendari
The dems complain about other blocking means that republicans used while they were in the majority under Clinton.

This is not what we're talking about. As Darkhawk mentioned, majorities don't need filibusters. You have a double standard. When Republicans used filibusters as the minority party in Congress, you don't seem to care; when Democrats use filibusters as the minority party, you call it dirty tactics.