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Name of Famous Experiment

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NakaNaka

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There's two tests I'm thinking of.

1) Where some students played the role of prison guard and some of inmates and the horrible things the guards did to the inmates.

2) Where there are three people. Person A commands a switch, hooked up to person B. It causes him pain. Person C tells person A to hit the switch. Person A doesn't know Person B isn't really being hurt, he thinks he is. And continues to administer the pain.

I want to relate this to some what I'm learning about extermination camps in Nazi German. Do you guys know the names of the experiments? Google no help because my search terms poor.

Thanks.

-Phil
 
Originally posted by: NakaNaka
I want to relate this to some what I'm learning about extermination camps in Nazi Germany.
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For the record, Milgram's experiment was conceived as an analogue to the Nazi camps. So you should be able to find reems of source material that already relates it to Nazi Germany. Unfortunately, Milgram's experiment pretty much just proves that the soldiers torturing people are no different from you or I and that if we were in the same situation, we'd be following orders too, no matter how much we like to think that we'd stand up to them. This made Milgram's study rather unpopular since people like to demonize the Nazi soldiers.

NOTE: What the Nazi's did was horrible and inexcuseable. I simply say what I say above to illustrate that we're all capable of doing the same things if an authority figure tells us to do them.

ZV
 
Are you talking about Zimbardo's Prision Experiment? You know, the experiment was stopped after only six days because the participants developed pathological reactions.
 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: NakaNaka
I want to relate this to some what I'm learning about extermination camps in Nazi Germany.
Click to expand...
For the record, Milgram's experiment was conceived as an analogue to the Nazi camps. So you should be able to find reems of source material that already relates it to Nazi Germany. Unfortunately, Milgram's experiment pretty much just proves that the soldiers torturing people are no different from you or I and that if we were in the same situation, we'd be following orders too, no matter how much we like to think that we'd stand up to them. This made Milgram's study rather unpopular since people like to demonize the Nazi soldiers.

NOTE: What the Nazi's did was horrible and inexcuseable. I simply say what I say above to illustrate that we're all capable of doing the same things if an authority figure tells us to do them.

ZV
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Yeah I know, that's what I wanted to prove. That these soldiers who carried out this torture were not pre-conditioned to do this. It was not that Germans were this completly evil race/country .. it was the conditions around.
 
Originally posted by: NakaNaka
There's two tests I'm thinking of.

1) Where some students played the role of prison guard and some of inmates and the horrible things the guards did to the inmates.

2) Where there are three people. Person A commands a switch, hooked up to person B. It causes him pain. Person C tells person A to hit the switch. Person A doesn't know Person B isn't really being hurt, he thinks he is. And continues to administer the pain.

I want to relate this to some what I'm learning about extermination camps in Nazi German. Do you guys know the names of the experiments? Google no help because my search terms poor.

Thanks.

-Phil
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Both these experiments were turned into movies:

1) Das Experiment

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0250258/


2) The Tenth Level starring William Shatner!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075320/
 
Originally posted by: NakaNaka
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: NakaNaka
I want to relate this to some what I'm learning about extermination camps in Nazi Germany.
Click to expand...
For the record, Milgram's experiment was conceived as an analogue to the Nazi camps. So you should be able to find reems of source material that already relates it to Nazi Germany. Unfortunately, Milgram's experiment pretty much just proves that the soldiers torturing people are no different from you or I and that if we were in the same situation, we'd be following orders too, no matter how much we like to think that we'd stand up to them. This made Milgram's study rather unpopular since people like to demonize the Nazi soldiers.

NOTE: What the Nazi's did was horrible and inexcuseable. I simply say what I say above to illustrate that we're all capable of doing the same things if an authority figure tells us to do them.

ZV
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Yeah I know, that's what I wanted to prove. That these soldiers who carried out this torture were not pre-conditioned to do this. It was not that Germans were this completly evil race/country .. it was the conditions around.
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I have heard an interesting theory. That the family structure of Germany at the time allowed for the rise of Naziism. The family structure was authoritarian with a commanding paternal figure.. Hitler simply assumed this cultural role and everybody fell in line....

 
Originally posted by: djheater
I have heard an interesting theory. That the family structure of Germany at the time allowed for the rise of Naziism. The family structure was authoritarian with a commanding paternal figure.. Hitler simply assumed this cultural role and everybody fell in line....
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I think the German people are just looking for an excuse why they believed they were the superior race yet fell for the biggest line of $hit ever.

 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: djheater
I have heard an interesting theory. That the family structure of Germany at the time allowed for the rise of Naziism. The family structure was authoritarian with a commanding paternal figure.. Hitler simply assumed this cultural role and everybody fell in line....
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I think the German people are just looking for an excuse why they believed they were the superior race yet fell for the biggest line of $hit ever.
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If you had studied Germany from 1918-1945 you would know that a) not a majority of the people believed this. Hitler's highest free election vote total was less than 40% of the vote and many who voted for him did not believe his anti-semetic rhetoric. There's been a thread on here discussing all this. b) People change when they live under a totalitarian regime. I'm not saying that family argument is correct mind you, but it's not as simple as people want to believe.
 
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