Nada's ever gonna to happen. Teflon Trump.

sportage

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It should be quite obvious that Trump could indeed get away with standing in the middle of 5th avenue shooting someone and walk away scot free.
Where's the smoking gun?
Where's the missing 18 minutes of tape?
Where's the John Dean's?
Where's the Sam Evrin's?
And where's the outrage?

All of those Trump supporters still support him. That hasn't changed one iota.
And therein lies their dilemma.....
If Trump were proven to be an all out commie lovin red Russian rooskie in bed with Putin, what would his supporters do?
Join the rooskie bandwagon?
Turn red?
Pledge alliance to Vladimir Vladimirovich Trump?

Before a single one of them would ever consider turning against their proclaimed savior of the American mass, the little guy, the "takers" as Mitt once put it, those Obamacare gay marriage Hillary Clinton haters would most likely raise a vodka in song and dance to their new founded orange haired rooskie.

Aside from the press and maybe one or two congressional republicans, which we all know you can never trust a republican in congress, not one of his supporters nor his republican congressional henchmen have any intention of holding president Donald Vladimirovich Putin accountable in any way.
Oh sure..... they play up a pretty good game of political theatrics to the people, waste our money like some surreal extension of Trump's reality TV show, but does anyone seriously believe all of this will amount to anything?
Just more opportunity for Trump to piss down the neck of the American people while telling us it's raining.
All while the real raping of America will take place behind the closed doors in the darkened rooms adjacent the corridors of this republican controlled government.

More far right henchmen appointed to the Supreme court.
More right wing extremist religious fanatics placed onto lower courts.
More freebies handed to the banks, the wealthy, the ruling class.
And people remain huddled up to their TV and smart phones waiting for that gotcha moment.
That moment where all hell breaks out for the big fat orange rooskie parading around in American flag.
That reality TV gotcha moment which will never come.

So, what will it be?
I pledge allegiance to the to flag?
Or....
I pledge allegiance to the ole hammer and sickle?
 
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cytg111

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Plain and simple, republicans need a Macron, another fu vote vs the establishment to run against the Trumpism and give the hysterical perplexed voterbase a sane alternative.
 
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BoomerD

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Even if Trump was caught on video, covered in the piss of 100 Russian hookers while buggering a small boy, while getting ass-fucked by Vladimir Putin, on a pile of dead Russian hookers and stacks of cash, the Republicans don't have enough ethics to put country before party and actually do anything.

Teflon Don indeed.
 

J.Wilkins

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Plain and simple, republicans need a Macron, another fu vote vs the establishment to run against the Trumpism and give the hysterical perplexed voterbase a sane alternative.

Without changing anything else the establishment will forever persist. It's not just the politicians that are the problem, it's the entire system. As long as the politicians can be bought with anonymous campaign money or promises of being paid in some way it's never going to change.

Regardless of their campaign promises they'll still do what the highest bidder wants them to do when they have been elected.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The Prophet of Doom has spoken. He really needs to relocate to some island nation and grow coconuts or something.

We are months into the Trump administration. This isn't find the world at your fingertips internet stuff. This isn't a fast food place. This is reality and that means that instant gratification isn't going to happen. It isn't going to happen today, it's not happening tomorrow, nor the day after but that hardly means it won't. Might as well take a long walk off a short pier if that's what one expects.

Yesterday Comey gave as good a testimony as I've seen in many years, maybe the best. If people expected a kill it was never going to happen but what it did do is explain precisely what happened and the President was bluntly called a liar in a verifiable sense. Comey did not discuss some things and not because he's reluctant to cause the removal of a President but because he understand the process of the law. He has Mueller's back and Mueller has his in this matter. Each by themselves should cause one to be concerned if wrongdoing is suspected but both? How many hours has Trump been silent? He's frightened with good cause.

I can't tell anyone what the result of this will be since I haven't the authority, knowledge or expertise of either man, but these guys are among the best there are and if there is an ugly truth hidden it will be dragged screaming and scratching into the light and even Republicans will be forced to see it.

But it takes time and that is not the fault of the system or those investigating, it is the nature of reality.
 

retrospooty

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I wouldnt be sure of that. The Trump supporters will still support him, but this thing will come to a head. There are alot of investigations going on to a lot of ties and it takes time. I think this will end in impeachment or him stepping down like Nixon... But not in 2017. If we are lucky 2018.
 

shortylickens

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He's not Teflon.

He just denies he's covered in shit. And amazingly no one wants to touch him.
 
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Even if Trump was caught on video, covered in the piss of 100 Russian hookers while buggering a small boy, while getting ass-fucked by Vladimir Putin, on a pile of dead Russian hookers and stacks of cash, the Republicans don't have enough ethics to put country before party and actually do anything.

Teflon Don indeed.

You are projecting.
 

feralkid

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I wouldnt be sure of that. The Trump supporters will still support him, but this thing will come to a head. There are alot of investigations going on to a lot of ties and it takes time. I think this will end in impeachment or him stepping down like Nixon... But not in 2017. If we are lucky 2018.


I do wonder if Trump can actually last that long sitting "under a cloud". I can imagine him going through a psychotic breakdown in front of everyone sometime before Halloween.

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Moonbeam

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He's not Teflon.

He just denies he's covered in shit. And amazingly no one wants to touch him.
The Teflon is actually the conservative brain defect, the application of shaming in childhood, the application of abuse to force conformist so that one won't later do something shameful. The result is a deep emotional need to experience being shamed while deflecting it by acting shamefully as adults. Conservatives are impelled to act in morally disgusting ways to vicariously relive their childhood traumas. This also causes liberals to experience a similar feeling. They missed our on the Stockholm syndrome part of the deal and hate the folk who tried and succeeded to break them by creating that hate.
 

Sea Ray

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The villain in all of this is the media. For months they've been telling us that Trump was colluding with the Russians. Now we find out that this was false. In fact it was BS. Now the Trump haters are waking up to see that there's no Santa Claus. They'd gotten their hopes up believing in a myth. The American people are getting it:

57 percent say the media has "prematurely declared President Trump and his allies guilty of collusion with Russia" despite a lack of evidence.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/poll-trump-russia-probe/2017/06/08/id/794944/

What's sad is that the media is so corrupt. That they can day after day report unnamed sources and pass it off as news.

Trump's an idiot who doesn't have a clue but he's also the victim of a media campaign to bring him down. If he were guilty of colluding with the Russians, we'd have seen the evidence by now. Someone would have leaked it and the NY Times would have reported it.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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The villain in all of this is the media.
A, not The.

For months they've been telling us that Trump was colluding with the Russians.
Doesn't mean its wrong.

Now we find out that this was false.
No we didn't, in fact, Comey very strongly hinted that there is evidence, but related to ongoing investigations and as such he couldn't talk about it in a public forum. More came out in the classified meeting, I'm sure.

Now the Trump haters are waking up to see that there's no Santa Claus. They'd gotten their hopes up believing in a myth. The American people are getting it:
Don't be ridiculous. Newsmax is so right wing it's not even funny. See your point about media being a villain.

That they can day after day report unnamed sources and pass it off as news.
Unnamed sources can be news, if they're trusted by the news organization. If those sources turn out to be garbage, the news organization suffers. There's nothing wrong with this model.

Trump's an idiot who doesn't have a clue but he's also the victim of a media campaign to bring him down. If he were guilty of colluding with the Russians, we'd have seen the evidence by now. Someone would have leaked it and the NY Times would have reported it.
Trump is not a victim of anything but his own stupidity, and lack of evidence 'by now' doesn't mean lack of guilt, or lack of the existence of evidence.

Give the Comey stuff time to simmer, and see what the Senate turns over.
 

Grooveriding

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The villain in all of this is the media. For months they've been telling us that Trump was colluding with the Russians. Now we find out that this was false. In fact it was BS. Now the Trump haters are waking up to see that there's no Santa Claus. They'd gotten their hopes up believing in a myth. The American people are getting it:



http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/poll-trump-russia-probe/2017/06/08/id/794944/

What's sad is that the media is so corrupt. That they can day after day report unnamed sources and pass it off as news.

Trump's an idiot who doesn't have a clue but he's also the victim of a media campaign to bring him down. If he were guilty of colluding with the Russians, we'd have seen the evidence by now. Someone would have leaked it and the NY Times would have reported it.

Your post is a complete train wreck. You've just shown how terribly uninformed and propagandized you are. The media has not been saying Trump colluded with Russia. They've been saying members of Trumps' campaign, past and present, are under investigation. They still are now, with the special prosecutor leading it.

People who are informed have been aware of this. Russia hacked targets to leak information and spread fake news in order to help Trump's campaign. There is an investigation into if there was coordination with his campaign and who may have been involved.

Another low information post from a propagandized republican.
 
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Stokely

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538 had a pretty big list of items that Comey said he couldn't talk about yesterday--not that he wouldn't talk about, but that he couldn't talk about in public yesterday. That implies that these are items under investigation. This has just begun. Who knows where it will lead, hopefully the truth wins out even if that means no criminal charges are ever filed and impeachment doesn't happen.

That said, this has already affected Trump and the GOP. Having lingering doubts and "a cloud" without any kind of quick resolution (good or bad) is probably the thing the GOP wants the least.
 

HomerJS

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The villain in all of this is the media. For months they've been telling us that Trump was colluding with the Russians. Now we find out that this was false. In fact it was BS. Now the Trump haters are waking up to see that there's no Santa Claus. They'd gotten their hopes up believing in a myth. The American people are getting it:



http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/poll-trump-russia-probe/2017/06/08/id/794944/

What's sad is that the media is so corrupt. That they can day after day report unnamed sources and pass it off as news.

Trump's an idiot who doesn't have a clue but he's also the victim of a media campaign to bring him down. If he were guilty of colluding with the Russians, we'd have seen the evidence by now. Someone would have leaked it and the NY Times would have reported it.
Classic example of misrepresenting fact. Media has been telling us there are "investigations" of collusion. You obviously parrot what you want to hear.
 

Moonbeam

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Your post is a complete train wreck. You've just shown how terribly uninformed and propagandized you are. The media has not been saying Trump colluded with Russia. They've been saying members of Trumps' campaign, past and present, are under investigation. They still are now, with the special prosecutor leading it.

People who are informed have been aware of this. Russia hacked targets to leak information and spread fake news in order to help Trump's campaign. There is an investigation into if there was coordination with his campaign and who may have been involved.

Another low information post from a propagandized republican.
The strength of group think lies in being as identically propagandized as possible. The cunning sycophants that feed off and profit from group power invent the clever rationalizations and the feed them to the group saving them the onus of having to think for themselves. A characteristic of the conservative brain defect is low level thinking. It's very economical and convenient and gives one a deep sense of safety in belonging. Conservatives are generally happier than liberals. I mean, look at the billions of calories and aneurisms you risk ranting and raving about the religious while they go to church, pray that Mom and Dad give them their money rather than brother Bob and go home feeling forgiven.
 

shortylickens

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NOBODY called Trump guilty.
People were asking for an investigation because of the all suspicious circumstances. And no one has yet actually investigated Trump himself.

Republicans cry more than the people they accuse of being cry-babies.
 

Sea Ray

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A, not The.


Doesn't mean its wrong.


No we didn't, in fact, Comey very strongly hinted that there is evidence, but related to ongoing investigations and as such he couldn't talk about it in a public forum. More came out in the classified meeting, I'm sure.


Don't be ridiculous. Newsmax is so right wing it's not even funny. See your point about media being a villain.


Unnamed sources can be news, if they're trusted by the news organization. If those sources turn out to be garbage, the news organization suffers. There's nothing wrong with this model.


Trump is not a victim of anything but his own stupidity, and lack of evidence 'by now' doesn't mean lack of guilt, or lack of the existence of evidence.

Give the Comey stuff time to simmer, and see what the Senate turns over.

You still think Santa Claus is coming down your chimney. It ain't happenin'. If there was evidence it'd have been leaked by now.

You're stuck with 4 yrs of Trump. That's how elections work.

Unnamed sources don't work because they can't be cross examined. The leaker has an agenda and we don't know what that is. In the case of Trump campaign officials colluding with the Russians story in the NY Times, that story was false. Comey testified to that under oath yesterday.
 

Sea Ray

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NOBODY called Trump guilty.
People were asking for an investigation because of the all suspicious circumstances. And no one has yet actually investigated Trump himself.

Republicans cry more than the people they accuse of being cry-babies.

Nobody's investigated Trump 'cause there's no evidence to show that an investigation is warranted.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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You still think Santa Claus is coming down your chimney. It ain't happenin'. If there was evidence it'd have been leaked by now.

You're stuck with 4 yrs of Trump. That's how elections work.

Unnamed sources don't work because they can't be cross examined. The leaker has an agenda and we don't know what that is. In the case of Trump campaign officials colluding with the Russians story in the NY Times, that story was false. Comey testified to that under oath yesterday.
The 'santa claus' garbage just makes you look stupider. You have no notion of what, or why, people have leaked things. You are not omnipotent, you cannot read minds, you aren't aware of everything happening behind every closed door, so don't assume that you do.

Elections do not grant a person godhood for four years. If Trump was found to do something damaging enough to the United States, the senate can call for his impeachment. That's how checks and balances work (among other things). This will be determined by those who have the authority to determine such things. Not you, and not me.

Unnamed sources work perfectly fine for uncovering rocks for later investigations. Any who decry sources of any kind do so because there's something to hide worth uncovering, from my experience. One false story does not a narrative make.
 

Sea Ray

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Your post is a complete train wreck. You've just shown how terribly uninformed and propagandized you are. The media has not been saying Trump colluded with Russia. They've been saying members of Trumps' campaign, past and present, are under investigation. They still are now, with the special prosecutor leading it.

People who are informed have been aware of this. Russia hacked targets to leak information and spread fake news in order to help Trump's campaign. There is an investigation into if there was coordination with his campaign and who may have been involved.

Another low information post from a propagandized republican.

You obviously aren't following very closely. The media (NY Times) did report that Trump's campaign colluded with Russia and Comey commented on that in particular:

The New York Times published a story about alleged contacts between Team Trump and Russian officials that turned out to be a sham, ex-FBI Director James Comey testified Thursday.

“In the main, it was not true,” Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Brush up on the facts before you pop off next time
 

Sea Ray

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The 'santa claus' garbage just makes you look stupider. You have no notion of what, or why, people have leaked things. You are not omnipotent, you cannot read minds, you aren't aware of everything happening behind every closed door, so don't assume that you do.

Elections do not grant a person godhood for four years. If Trump was found to do something damaging enough to the United States, the senate can call for his impeachment. That's how checks and balances work (among other things). This will be determined by those who have the authority to determine such things. Not you, and not me.

Unnamed sources work perfectly fine for uncovering rocks for later investigations. Any who decry sources of any kind do so because there's something to hide worth uncovering, from my experience. One false story does not a narrative make.

There's no evidence that shows Trump did anything to call for his impeachment so that's a non starter. If there is evidence...If there is a Santa Claus...
 

Grooveriding

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You obviously aren't following very closely. The media (NY Times) did report that Trump's campaign colluded with Russia and Comey commented on that in particular:



Brush up on the facts before you pop off next time

You just did it again. LOL, unbelievable, doubled down on the talking point you were fed about one story. If you were actually informing yourself, you'd have been aware of everything else that has been reported. And still ignoring there is an active acknowledged investigation still ongoing into this.

No wonder a creep like Trump can be elected with people this badly informed and hunkered down in their CDB bunkers. Jesus H. Christ.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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There's no evidence that shows Trump did anything to call for his impeachment so that's a non starter. If there is evidence...If there is a Santa Claus...
That we've been made aware of. This isn't pie-in-the-sky fantasy bullshit anymore, there's a very real possibility that our president, or at minimum his staff, was directly involved in the shit. We'll find out one way or another, but your callous dismissal of fire in the face of an overwhelming amount of smoke is frankly, depressing.