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NAACP to target private business

ShadesOfGrey

Golden Member
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050712-120944-7745r.htm

The NAACP will target private companies as part of its economic agenda, seeking reparations from corporations with historical ties to slavery and boycotting companies that refuse to participate in its annual business diversity report card.
"Absolutely, we will be pursuing reparations from companies that have historical ties to slavery and engaging all parties to come to the table," Dennis C. Hayes, interim president and chief executive officer of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said yesterday at the group's 96th annual convention here.
"Many of the problems we have now including poverty, disparities in health care and incarcerations can be directly tied to slavery."
Read it all at the link.

Now my question is this:
Does this sort of action by the NAACP really address the "problems we have now"?

My opinion is that it doesn't address the problems and that it is just a ploy(extortion?) to shift the blame onto businesses. Slavery ended years ago so for the NAACP to claim that today's poverty is directly tied to slavery is preposterous.

Your thoughts on the article or actions of the NAACP?
 
Then I want reparations for all the Union soldiers killed during the Civil War. I figure it'd be fair if the South and African-Americans split the bill. I also demand reparations from the British for persecuting my Protestant ancestors and forcing them to come to America. I furthermore expect reparations from God for kicking my most ancient ancestors out of the Garden of Eden.

Howbout they actually focus on the "advancement of colored people" for a change?
 
Do you guys also have problems when Jews do this with WW2 firms?

This is not akin to asking all whites to make reparations. This specifically targets company that profited from slavery, it seems.
 
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Then I want reparations for all the Union soldiers killed during the Civil War. I figure it'd be fair if the South and African-Americans split the bill. I also demand reparations from the British for persecuting my Protestant ancestors and forcing them to come to America. I furthermore expect reparations from God for kicking my most ancient ancestors out of the Garden of Eden.

Howbout they actually focus on the "advancement of colored people" for a change?



those are completely unrelated arguments
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Do you guys also have problems when Jews do this with WW2 firms?

This is not akin to asking all whites to make reparations. This specifically targets company that profited from slavery, it seems.

It depends. When Jews went after the stolen money which was retained by Swiss banks after the war, I certainly had no problem with it. But would I find it ridiculous if they asked all modern-day Germans to pay up for something their grandfathers did? Yes.

So I guess I'd be interested to see the list of companies they're targeting and the evidence for each. Also, who would get the money if paid?
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Then I want reparations for all the Union soldiers killed during the Civil War. I figure it'd be fair if the South and African-Americans split the bill. I also demand reparations from the British for persecuting my Protestant ancestors and forcing them to come to America. I furthermore expect reparations from God for kicking my most ancient ancestors out of the Garden of Eden.

Howbout they actually focus on the "advancement of colored people" for a change?

those are completely unrelated arguments

Unrelated to what exactly? And "arguments"? I think its clear the above examples are jokes, but if you feel so strongly about it, then jump on the bandwagon and sue me.
 
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
It depends. When Jews went after the stolen money which was retained by Swiss banks after the war, I certainly had no problem with it.
How does this differ from African-Americans going after companies that profited from slavery?

But would I find it ridiculous if they asked all modern-day Germans to pay up for something their grandfathers did? Yes.
Okay... but that seems to be more akin to the general reparations idea. This is distinct from that in that they are not asking ALL modern-day whites to pay here. Just specific wrongdoers.

So I guess I'd be interested to see the list of companies they're targeting and the evidence for each. Also, who would get the money if paid?
As would I. Most companies go out of business eventually. Even successful companies fade.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
It depends. When Jews went after the stolen money which was retained by Swiss banks after the war, I certainly had no problem with it.
How does this differ from African-Americans going after companies that profited from slavery?

But would I find it ridiculous if they asked all modern-day Germans to pay up for something their grandfathers did? Yes.
Okay... but that seems to be more akin to the general reparations idea. This is distinct from that in that they are not asking ALL modern-day whites to pay here. Just specific wrongdoers.

So I guess I'd be interested to see the list of companies they're targeting and the evidence for each. Also, who would get the money if paid?
As would I. Most companies go out of business eventually. Even successful companies fade.

I see the difference between the two scenarios, which is why I'm admitting I shouldn't seriously pass judgement until its made clear who gets sued, and more importantly, who gets the money if successful? Does it get split up among all African-Americans, or does a big chunk of it go to the NAACP (which would certainly influence my opinion)?
 
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050712-120944-7745r.htm

The NAACP will target private companies as part of its economic agenda, seeking reparations from corporations with historical ties to slavery and boycotting companies that refuse to participate in its annual business diversity report card.
"Absolutely, we will be pursuing reparations from companies that have historical ties to slavery and engaging all parties to come to the table," Dennis C. Hayes, interim president and chief executive officer of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said yesterday at the group's 96th annual convention here.
"Many of the problems we have now including poverty, disparities in health care and incarcerations can be directly tied to slavery."
Read it all at the link.

Now my question is this:
Does this sort of action by the NAACP really address the "problems we have now"?

My opinion is that it doesn't address the problems and that it is just a ploy(extortion?) to shift the blame onto businesses. Slavery ended years ago so for the NAACP to claim that today's poverty is directly tied to slavery is preposterous.

Your thoughts on the article or actions of the NAACP?

I disagree. They just want mo money.

 
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Then I want reparations for all the Union soldiers killed during the Civil War. I figure it'd be fair if the South and African-Americans split the bill. I also demand reparations from the British for persecuting my Protestant ancestors and forcing them to come to America. I furthermore expect reparations from God for kicking my most ancient ancestors out of the Garden of Eden.

Howbout they actually focus on the "advancement of colored people" for a change?

those are completely unrelated arguments

Unrelated to what exactly? And "arguments"? I think its clear the above examples are jokes, but if you feel so strongly about it, then jump on the bandwagon and sue me.



my fault, i didn't know u were making a joke, thought u were saying that because u were disagreeing with the OP
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Then I want reparations for all the Union soldiers killed during the Civil War. I figure it'd be fair if the South and African-Americans split the bill. I also demand reparations from the British for persecuting my Protestant ancestors and forcing them to come to America. I furthermore expect reparations from God for kicking my most ancient ancestors out of the Garden of Eden.

Howbout they actually focus on the "advancement of colored people" for a change?

those are completely unrelated arguments

Unrelated to what exactly? And "arguments"? I think its clear the above examples are jokes, but if you feel so strongly about it, then jump on the bandwagon and sue me.


my fault, i didn't know u were making a joke, thought u were saying that because u were disagreeing with the OP

No problem, obviously it wasn't as clear as I thought... 🙂
 
NAACP is absolutely on to something. What I'd like them to look into are businesses that have less than 1% Blacks working. The company I work for is white republican all the way. Over 1000 employees. One, yes ONE, Black guy works in the warehouse. Thats it. I just cant believe not one other Black man or woman couldn?t qualify to work here, and in a non labor position.
Discriminated is still very much alive in 2005.
 
Originally posted by: randym431
NAACP is absolutely on to something. What I'd like them to look into are businesses that have less than 1% Blacks working. The company I work for is white republican all the way. Over 1000 employees. One, yes ONE, Black guy works in the warehouse. Thats it. I just cant believe not one other Black man or woman couldn?t qualify to work here, and in a non labor position.
Discriminated is still very much alive in 2005.

Do you live in Wisconsin?

Isn't the NAACP afraid of stepping in on Jesse Jackson's shake-down territory? I wonder what the PPV revenue would be for a cage match between Rainbow/Push and NAACP for rights to shake-down the entire country. 😀
 
So, who gets this money? The fat cats at the NAACP? That's what I thought. I doubt that any of it will make it into the hands of those that need it.

With that being said, THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER READ.

The NAACP should take a lesson from Rainbow Push - don't ask for the money, just extort it. Find people, call them racists in the media and ask for money, they cannot argue with the 'hate white' media coverage, payday. Jackson has made hundreds of millions doing this.



We can thank groups like this for continuing the traditions of racism. After all, they are the only ones with the incentive to keep racism alive and kicking - it is paying them.
 
What comnpany today existed when slavery was abolished? in what 1867?

Budweiser maybe? Good luck boycotting them, lol.
 
The article seemed to indicate that companies who acknowledged their roles in slavery are doing things such as setting up scholarships for blacks and similar programs. That sounds good to me. I'd have no problem with reparations of that nature.

What I would never support would be any kind of money grab. Whether it's a big lump sum to the NAACP or sending checks to everyone who can prove they're a descendant of a slave. That's just money that will be pissed away and will do nothing for equality.
 
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Then I want reparations for all the Union soldiers killed during the Civil War. I figure it'd be fair if the South and African-Americans split the bill. I also demand reparations from the British for persecuting my Protestant ancestors and forcing them to come to America. I furthermore expect reparations from God for kicking my most ancient ancestors out of the Garden of Eden.

Howbout they actually focus on the "advancement of colored people" for a change?

Yeah, it's pretty hard to advance when you are permanently stuck in the past.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Okay... but that seems to be more akin to the general reparations idea. This is distinct from that in that they are not asking ALL modern-day whites to pay here. Just specific wrongdoers.

And how does anybody propose we do that? Dig up their graves and take their valuables from their corpses?
 
Originally posted by: randym431
NAACP is absolutely on to something. What I'd like them to look into are businesses that have less than 1% Blacks working. The company I work for is white republican all the way. Over 1000 employees. One, yes ONE, Black guy works in the warehouse. Thats it. I just cant believe not one other Black man or woman couldn?t qualify to work here, and in a non labor position.
Discriminated is still very much alive in 2005.

Is his nickname Token? haha 🙂
 
Originally posted by: randym431
NAACP is absolutely on to something. What I'd like them to look into are businesses that have less than 1% Blacks working. The company I work for is white republican all the way. Over 1000 employees. One, yes ONE, Black guy works in the warehouse. Thats it. I just cant believe not one other Black man or woman couldn?t qualify to work here, and in a non labor position.
Discriminated is still very much alive in 2005.
Do a disproportionate number of minorities get turned down at the interview process? I certainly don't support hiring someone based on race simply to boost your "diversity" numbers. Not all industries can accurately reflect the population spectrum.


 
Do you guys also have problems when Jews do this with WW2 firms?
I don't support reparations in any form...how do you hold companies accountable for decisions made decades or even centuries ago? Also, how do you place a price tag on atrocities committed in the past by people who are long dead?

This is not akin to asking all whites to make reparations. This specifically targets company that profited from slavery, it seems.
No it's a diversion from tackling the real problems currently plaguing poverty and crime stricken black communities...the NAACP and their culture of entitlement is doing little to help the real world and modern day problems that plague these communities...playing the victim card does not solve much of anything, nor does living in the past.

 
The company I work for is white republican all the way. Over 1000 employees. One, yes ONE, Black guy works in the warehouse. Thats it. I just cant believe not one other Black man or woman couldn?t qualify to work here, and in a non labor position.
Discriminated is still very much alive in 2005.


just fyi, racism extends beyond party lines. take for example, senator kkk byrd. also, consider the fact that george bush has appointed more minority cabinent members, judges and other officials than any other president (including bill clinton). and if anyone thinks colin powell or condi rice got their appointments b/c they were mere tokens for the republican party, you're insulting the intelligence and the qualifications of both of these respectable individuals.
 
Or the fact that the Democrats have never appointed a black member to any seat of power - EVER. Or that the Democrats philibustered the Civil Rights Amendment.
 
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